unnamednewbie13
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mixed feelings on this. there is schadenfreude in watching the leopards get some other schmuck's face, yes. obama and biden would probably be more practical in this. art of the possible and all that. they were elected. at the very least, feign empathy to garner votes. rhetoric and then strides in abating inequality/inequity is probably the right thing to do even if such a thing results in improvements to quality of life for trumpers.

major republican donor corporations put a rainbow on their logo one month a year. optics! lol
SuperJail Warden
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Yeah, I am leaning on the whole Catholic thing, right now. If I understand the religion correctly, it is about sacrifice and duty even to those who will not appreciate it. That and being weird about sex.
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/P539TN/nun-and-priest-praying-and-spending-time-in-the-monastery-P539TN.jpg

The next group I want to riff on...trad Catholics.
https://liturgyguy.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/07/ordinations.jpg?w=640
What the fuck is this? I have been to church once in the last 25 years and I can tell you that maybe the Protestants were right about needing to go to these.

It wasn't bad. It was boring. Who goes to a normal Catholic Church and thinks 'I really wish this were slower and more formal.' Marx said "religion is the opium of the masses." Nowadays you can get opium in disposable vapes.
https://vapesandpuffs.com/cdn/shop/articles/Untitled_15_png.webp?v=1724597801
No need to visit the local sexual predator to get closer to God.
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/FtyB4StCtUc/hq720.jpg?sqp=-oaymwEhCK4FEIIDSFryq4qpAxMIARUAAAAAGAElAADIQj0AgKJD&rs=AOn4CLBkrG7nEJyR3VY1ucMc7Hhnq9RJtQ
By the way, I can say all of this because I am very Catholic. I have a Masters Degree from a Catholic university. Cost me $40,000. I don't intend to ever pay that money back to the government.
https://www.houmatoday.com/gcdn/presto/2019/05/28/PMOH/1ce4af4b-b5c8-4d0a-80aa-ec366afdd056-205_225702.jpg
No.

But truly, I don't understand the Trad Catholics who also want to deport all of the Catholics.
https://img.hghlnd.com/imgix/https://detroitcatholic.nyc3.digitaloceanspaces.com/14-14_2024-09-30-203201_ryom.jpg?w=2400&h=1350&fit=crop&crop=faces
Trad Catholics in America really out here siding with the Jews. Sorry to interrupt I just want to clear up something about this post.
https://preview.redd.it/why-didnt-linus-just-own-his-mistakes-apologize-and-work-to-v0-6xp0xsht4aib1.jpg?width=640&crop=smart&auto=webp&s=a537515258cdb95477814e1647a9e1da4266648b
I realize I am part of same hypocrisy since I am donating my time to help the Democrat Jewish lady beat the Republican Italian Catholic.
https://www.njspotlightnews.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/123/2025/06/Jack-Ciattarelli-and-Mikie-Sherrill.jpg
Make it all make sense.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Yeah, I am leaning on the whole Catholic thing, right now. If I understand the religion correctly, it is about sacrifice and duty even to those who will not appreciate it. That and being weird about sex.
it's a bit of a trope in the current right-wing culture wars sphere, that 'OG' catholics who were born into multi-generational, settled catholic cultures have a very different conception of the religion than all these arriviste zealots and politically motivated theo-fascists.

the old-school catholic type goes in for the irremediable guilt, original sin; but also good works and boring community stuff. that's not sexy to the edgy internet 'trad-caths', who seem more interested in bizarre byzantine sects, flirting with the orthodox tradition more generally, and who will discuss at endless length esoteric or gnostic aspects of the religion. no italian-american or stout german midwesterner is going to go in for all that LARP'ing.

the way that meme culture and virality more generally has crossed-over with religion in the last 10 years is really fucking weird. subreddits given over to niche catholic theology. endless facebook groups that started out as ironic jokes (warhammer 40k but catholicism!) but have quietly radicalised a bunch of people. 4chan green texts. etc etc.

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SuperJail Warden
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I saw one good post on reddit that said "Those people on Twitter with the Catholic or Roman profile pictures are often Indians and Pakistanis trying to troll the other one." So you get some Trad Catholics on Twitter who is really angry about Indians in Canada. Meanwhile there is a Trad Catholic on Twitter talking about how Israel, Indian and the U.S. should bomb Muslims.

This is your fault for giving all of us brown people your language.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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yeah the fact that the biggest populations of internet users today, by quite a margin, are indian/chinese has really started to filter through to social media 'discourse' and the internet's 'subculture' generally.

hate the brits for spreading english; love the CCP for installing the great firewall.
unnamednewbie13
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the kind of people who would guffaw at your above posted student loan comic, mac, complain endlessly and bitterly about their own financial hardships and how unfair debt collection and the government and taxes and general cost of living are specifically to themselves. they want to punch down on college graduates, but can't from their position neck-deep in wet cement.

"you took out a loan, pay it back," snicker people who even mooch off family to the tune of thousands. a whole spiderweb of mooching.
uziq
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it does somewhat confuse me that all these upper-middle class republicans of prominence were complaining about the biden loan forgiveness program, rightabout at the same time they were all being mass forgiven for multi-million dollar loans. PPP loans, was it? i'm not familiar with the actual details of the scheme – just that some of the people tweeting angrily about student loans had literally had like $30 million wiped from their credit.
Dilbert_X
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They don't want other kids competing with their kids, isn't that what most of it amounts to?
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SuperJail Warden
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Aside from that they are also getting involved with college admissions. In the name of combating antisemitism they are going to pressure the schools to enroll less Asian kids and international students or else they will lose funding.

I know one Asian guy running for [redacted] in [redacted] on a Republican ticket. He recently married an Asian lady ahead of the election.
https://c8.alamy.com/comp/D4J097/photo-of-wedding-day-of-young-asian-couple-D4J097.jpg
The guy is getting scammed and played by the GOP. If you are going to sell out to MAGA at least secure yourself a bleach blonde white girl for your trouble.
https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcS9EMple3BOpngAE9dgfLx-haRHY2Y0iBkOmQ&s
The day I sell out to MAGA I will not say anything but there will be signs.
https://as1.ftcdn.net/jpg/01/78/43/28/1000_F_178432882_eQBDeaTuDvOef3UQB9K1kynZ3jxX0DUV.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fs1NwiBWAAE_vL3.jpg

...

Speaking of sleeping with the enemy...
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/JI3yUMQrCvU/hqdefault.jpg
Jewish girls are hot. Dilbert, how could you say no to this?
https://img-s1.onedio.com/id-63a8292d0ce1df7c3f45fad6/rev-0/w-1200/h-938/f-jpg/s-151804a8f2f7ce22387a7362685b9ae1f80083c4.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
Dilbert_X
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SuperJail Warden wrote:

Speaking of sleeping with the enemy...

Jewish girls are hot. Dilbert, how could you say no to this?
I'm not sure I could take the endless griping and self-absorption.

Also I would not want my beautiful aryan genes polluted with a failed slave-race or my super-fund robbed.
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uziq
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aryan? are there many aryans with ties to pontypridd?

yer a ginger celt. we haven't forgotten the bf2s lore. nor the mabinogion.
unnamednewbie13
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with the dilution of inherited dna over generations from specific ancestors, or not really having that much in common with a fifth cousin twice removed, the whole pride in your line thing may be a bit misplaced.

can we finally put the obsession to bed already? even tongue-in-cheek, all that ArYaN stuff is like reading nazi mysticism.
uziq
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https://archive.md/faJ2z

interesting read (poached from behind the foreign policy paywall). one of the most highly respected profs of history at cambridge goes in on the current epoch.
unnamednewbie13
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jeez
Dilbert_X
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uziq wrote:

https://archive.md/faJ2z

interesting read (poached from behind the foreign policy paywall). one of the most highly respected profs of history at cambridge goes in on the current epoch.
The Romans thought they were modern, as they burned Christians alive at dinners and raped their empire.

Apart from the Korean War, Vietnam War, destabilisation and brutalisation of South America, imposition of Israel and its kooky cultists on the ME and multiple resulting wars and refugee exoduses yeah I guess the world has been 'modern' and 'stable'.
The Cold war wasn't really a lot of fun either.

What the author is really lamenting is that the West has failed and despite multiple wars has nothing to show for it and is now in decline..
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Dilbert_X
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Either Trump is playing genius-level 4D chess with Putin or he really took it in the ass.

https://www.thedailybeast.com/resizer/v2/5UWRRILFPZHFJDUGZVMS7YOITA.jpeg?smart=true&auth=d4bbef2000e871dd41b30b36985849c9b124fc73f18920e244889380e51aa394&width=1284&height=722

Putin got everything he wanted, Trump couldn't even get an interim ceasefire.
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uziq
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i find it strange how much the donald covets the nobel peace prize. the guy practically engineers conflicts so that he can then defuse them. an odd accolade to seek out when you're against the swamp and the liberal consensus.
Dilbert_X
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To be fair Trump hasn't actually engineered a conflict - he's probably not smart enough.

Its an interesting negotiating strategy though - give the other side everything they ask for and ask for nothing in return.
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SuperJail Warden
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I have been thinking more of the "Ukraine can't win the war" line. Maybe they actually can. The Taliban and Vietnamese outlasted us in both of their wars. Ukraine simply needs to hold on long enough for the Russian political situation to change.
https://i.imgur.com/xsoGn9X.jpg
uziq
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i think ukraine is really screwed if the aid stops. the entire russian economy since the 1990s (if not the 1950s) has been tooled towards stripmining assets and creating oligarchs on the one hand, and maintaining a massive (if grossly corrupt and inefficient) military on the other. like, that's it. they've got enough natural resources and enough back-channels/grey market economic arrangements to keep their war machine humming along for a very long time.

there was a lot of talk when sanctions were initially placed about how their entire military depends on fancy european engineering, tank components from italy, plant tools from germany, etc. but actually it seems like they're fine bombarding ukraine with iranian (or turkish) drones and getting the north koreans to send them their pirated military hardware for the rest of all time.

russia has a pretty small (official, white) economy, but evidently deep reserves when it comes to sustaining a war. 'it has a GDP smaller than spain!' etc. yes, but russia also has millions of yokels from the far-east to throw into the meatgrinder, plus willing allies in the endeavour. and the economy of spain is set up for accommodating sunburnt brits and german tourists, not for waging war. russia is a fully militarised society, complete with the wailing mothers who only wished they'd produced 5 more sons to die on the frontlines, etc.

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Dilbert_X
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Apparently Russia is making all its own drones now, explosives are really cheap to make, they can do this forever.
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