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Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6242|Blue Mountain State

Adams_BJ wrote:

dude a full auto .45? SICK!
Four of them.
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Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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Adams_BJ wrote:

dude a full auto .45? SICK!
I had a go with a UMP in Florida, I couldn't control it.
https://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oZaomizvY8M/TI2sRyCCCyI/AAAAAAAAI_w/oxpRxhc5K9Q/s1600/hk_ump45.jpg
Fuck Israel
Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
+2,054|6886|Little Bentcock

Dilbert_X wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

dude a full auto .45? SICK!
I had a go with a UMP in Florida, I couldn't control it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oZaomizvY8M/T … _ump45.jpg
fun though?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6370|eXtreme to the maX
Fun indeed, brrrrrrrrrp, er sorry about the ceiling mate.
The colleague I took with me had never fired a gun before and had to sit down for ten minutes afterwards to recompose himself.

Didn't have time for the Thompson and all the 9mm SMGs were booked out

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-12-30 17:38:42)

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Adams_BJ
Russian warship, go fuck yourself
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I woulda loved to have given it a go, only experience I have is shooting bunnies with a .22
FloppY_
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+1,010|6550|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Dilbert_X wrote:

Fun indeed, brrrrrrrrrp, er sorry about the ceiling mate.
The colleague I took with me had never fired a gun before and had to sit down for ten minutes afterwards to recompose himself.

Didn't have time for the Thompson and all the 9mm SMGs were booked out
Does it really kick that much?

I guess that's the reason those guys made the recoil reduction thingy in the Vector
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Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6242|Blue Mountain State

Dilbert_X wrote:

Adams_BJ wrote:

dude a full auto .45? SICK!
I had a go with a UMP in Florida, I couldn't control it.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_oZaomizvY8M/T … _ump45.jpg
You should try a 10mm MP5. Coolest gun ever.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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FloppY_ wrote:

Does it really kick that much?
It was .45 so it kicks, and while the Thompson weighs 4.9 kg the UMP weighs 2.3 kg...

Anything greater then 3-4 shots and it was out of control even from the shoulder.

Gallery ranges must have some kind of exemption as they had tons of post-'86 full auto gear.
"Those Machine Guns registered after that date are known as post-86 dealer samples" I guess thats it.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-12-30 20:10:45)

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Sup3r_Dr4gon
Boat sig is not there anymore
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west-phoenix-az wrote:

Yeah the registration for full-autos (machine guns) was closed. No new machine guns could be added to the registry after 1986. So only the machine guns registered before the 1986 cutoff are available to the public. That makes all machine guns more expensive. I don't know if the actual number of registered machine guns was ever released, but there are still a lot of them out there.

http://machinegunpriceguide.com/html/transferable_.html

The National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA) established a $200 tax on the transfer of Machine Guns, sawed-off shotguns, short barreled rifles and innocuous silencers. These things are now referred to as NFA items. This amounted to at least a 100% tax on NFA items and, more importantly, it established the first control over Machine Guns and their transfer by the Federal Government. Over 30 years later, the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA68) restricted the importation of surplus military weapons into the US. Ironically, gun manufacturers lobbied hard for GCA68 because they concluded that cheap military surplus was killing the market for their products. Little did they anticipate the full draconian measure of GCA68, but it effectively stopped all military surplus, including US models, from being (re)imported into the US. Obviously that included Machine Guns and all manner of automatic weapons. Machine Guns imported into the US after 1968 could only be owned by a Special Occupation Taxpayer (SOT) that we know as a Machine Gun Dealer and these Machine Guns became known as pre-86 or pre-May dealer samples for reasons that will soon be apparent. It took almost 20 years to correct many of the injustices of GCA68 through legislation known as The Firearms Owner’s Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA). But FOPA and its infamous late-night Hughes Amendment made all Machine Guns unlawful to be owned by individuals except those that were registered in the ATF’s  National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (NFRTR) before May 19, 1986. Those Machine Guns registered after that date are known as post-86 dealer samples and can also only be owned by a SOT but only for law enforcement or military demonstrations.
I thought this only lasted 20 years or something? I remember hearing back in high school that this ban expired and was never put back in place.
ROGUEDD
BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.
+452|5653|Fuck this.

Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:

west-phoenix-az wrote:

Yeah the registration for full-autos (machine guns) was closed. No new machine guns could be added to the registry after 1986. So only the machine guns registered before the 1986 cutoff are available to the public. That makes all machine guns more expensive. I don't know if the actual number of registered machine guns was ever released, but there are still a lot of them out there.

http://machinegunpriceguide.com/html/transferable_.html

The National Firearms Act of 1934 (NFA) established a $200 tax on the transfer of Machine Guns, sawed-off shotguns, short barreled rifles and innocuous silencers. These things are now referred to as NFA items. This amounted to at least a 100% tax on NFA items and, more importantly, it established the first control over Machine Guns and their transfer by the Federal Government. Over 30 years later, the Gun Control Act of 1968 (GCA68) restricted the importation of surplus military weapons into the US. Ironically, gun manufacturers lobbied hard for GCA68 because they concluded that cheap military surplus was killing the market for their products. Little did they anticipate the full draconian measure of GCA68, but it effectively stopped all military surplus, including US models, from being (re)imported into the US. Obviously that included Machine Guns and all manner of automatic weapons. Machine Guns imported into the US after 1968 could only be owned by a Special Occupation Taxpayer (SOT) that we know as a Machine Gun Dealer and these Machine Guns became known as pre-86 or pre-May dealer samples for reasons that will soon be apparent. It took almost 20 years to correct many of the injustices of GCA68 through legislation known as The Firearms Owner’s Protection Act of 1986 (FOPA). But FOPA and its infamous late-night Hughes Amendment made all Machine Guns unlawful to be owned by individuals except those that were registered in the ATF’s  National Firearms Registration and Transfer Record (NFRTR) before May 19, 1986. Those Machine Guns registered after that date are known as post-86 dealer samples and can also only be owned by a SOT but only for law enforcement or military demonstrations.
I thought this only lasted 20 years or something? I remember hearing back in high school that this ban expired and was never put back in place.
That was the assault weapons ban. Which banned anything that looked too scary.
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RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6978|US
The 1994 Assault Weapons Ban expired after 10 years.  It banned semi-autos with certain cosmetic features. 

...a fine example of stupid gun laws.
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Adams_BJ wrote:

I woulda loved to have given it a go, only experience I have is shooting bunnies with a .22
Unless you actually ate them, fail.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7044|Great Brown North
i'll forgive him for not

bunnies = plague  of doom in aus   from what i remember?
Trotskygrad
бля
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Dilbert_X wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Does it really kick that much?
It was .45 so it kicks, and while the Thompson weighs 4.9 kg the UMP weighs 2.3 kg...

Anything greater then 3-4 shots and it was out of control even from the shoulder.

Gallery ranges must have some kind of exemption as they had tons of post-'86 full auto gear.
"Those Machine Guns registered after that date are known as post-86 dealer samples" I guess thats it.
yeah I know a range with a full auto ACR, only had a PS90 though... and they didn't let people go full auto with it (the ACR)
FloppY_
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Can you get a semi ACR on a "normal" permit in the US?

isn't it that über high-tech modular rifle?
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Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6242|Blue Mountain State

FloppY_ wrote:

Can you get a semi ACR on a "normal" permit in the US?

isn't it that über high-tech modular rifle?
Normal permit? I can go to my local gun store right now and buy an ACR. No permit. Just have to be 18 years old.
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Baba Booey
Little BaBy JESUS
m8
+394|6413|'straya

krazed wrote:

i'll forgive him for not

bunnies = plague  of doom in aus   from what i remember?
Thanks again to the English for introducing yet another species to destroy our agriculture and native wildlife.
FloppY_
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+1,010|6550|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Can you get a semi ACR on a "normal" permit in the US?

isn't it that über high-tech modular rifle?
Normal permit? I can go to my local gun store right now and buy an ACR. No permit. Just have to be 18 years old.
Is it only certain states that prohibit AR type rifles then?

I've seen some wierd M16 grips that were apparently required for them to be legal
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Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6242|Blue Mountain State

FloppY_ wrote:

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

Can you get a semi ACR on a "normal" permit in the US?

isn't it that über high-tech modular rifle?
Normal permit? I can go to my local gun store right now and buy an ACR. No permit. Just have to be 18 years old.
Is it only certain states that prohibit AR type rifles then?

I've seen some wierd M16 grips that were apparently required for them to be legal

ROGUEDD wrote:

That was the assault weapons ban. Which banned anything that looked too scary.
That shit isn't in effect anymore.
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Baba Booey
FloppY_
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+1,010|6550|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

FloppY_ wrote:

1stSFOD-Delta wrote:

Normal permit? I can go to my local gun store right now and buy an ACR. No permit. Just have to be 18 years old.
Is it only certain states that prohibit AR type rifles then?

I've seen some wierd M16 grips that were apparently required for them to be legal

ROGUEDD wrote:

That was the assault weapons ban. Which banned anything that looked too scary.
That shit isn't in effect anymore.
oh ok...

recent change? or did I read old news yesteryear

Maybe I should consider moving to a desert in the US to shoot some stuff? :p

Last edited by FloppY_ (2010-12-31 17:41:21)

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Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6242|Blue Mountain State
It expired years ago.
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Baba Booey
FloppY_
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+1,010|6550|Denmark aka Automotive Hell
Maybe I should do a US roadtrip instead of an AUS roadtrip? :p

At least every animal won't be trying to kill me in the US
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King_County_Downy
shitfaced
+2,791|6861|Seattle

Just picked up one of these:

https://i55.tinypic.com/2n15kz5.jpg

Bersa Thunder .380
It was cheap but it's actually pretty well made. Easy to break down, built in lock, safe release hammer, and they make lots of accessories for it.

I'm happy with it.
Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it
FloppY_
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+1,010|6550|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

King_County_Downy wrote:

Just picked up one of these:

http://i55.tinypic.com/2n15kz5.jpg

Bersa Thunder .380
It was cheap but it's actually pretty well made. Easy to break down, built in lock, safe release hammer, and they make lots of accessories for it.

I'm happy with it.
Looks kinda like that old Walther bond used
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