PspRpg-7
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+961|7135

jsnipy wrote:

Support ~ waypoint flare updgrade

(Analogous to how the spawn beacon works, perhaps a radio, or flare that will allow squad members to parachute in as opposed to just respawning.)
You'd just spawn on them like BF2 =\
l41e
Member
+677|7085

Just to nitpick/add accuracy: The US "light" machine gun of the Browning .30 was the M1919A6.
11sog_raider
a gaurdian of life
+112|6896|behind my rifle
mortor for support, lawl
silentsin
Member
+3|7135

zimmer92 wrote:

I personally have never played Vietnam, wait, I have but that isn't the point. It sucked, long and hard.
I suppose I am just a BF2 kinda guy.
i liked BFV. it was a poorly made game but i still enjoyed it, probably did more than i do BF2. especially the Huey Gunships
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6915|Communist Republic of CA, USA
Yeah if EA/Dice had put some more effort into it, it'd be a much more popular game.  It's really fun, especially when performing Insertions of troops into hot LZ's while blaring one of the ingame, licensed songs...
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6956|Adelaide, South Australia

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

Yeah if EA/Dice had put some more effort into it, it'd be a much more popular game.  It's really fun, especially when performing Insertions of troops into hot LZ's while blaring one of the ingame, licensed songs...
*Cue 'Flight of the Valkyries'*
Reciprocity
Member
+721|7018|the dank(super) side of Oregon
-US medic should have an M1 carbine.  I would make the Thompson the unlock for the medic.
-M1 garand is a good for the assault with the BAR and Thompson as unlocks
-US Engineer should have an M3 grease gun.  The M1 Carbine should be the unlock
-US Support should start with a BAR.  M1919 as the unlock.

The same basic idea with the other countries.  GB, Soviet Union, Germany, Japan, and Italy all used bolt action rifles as their primary infantry weapon.  The US being the exception with the semi-auto Garand, althought Marines did carry M1903A3's early on in the Pacific.  Submachine guns should and assault rifles should be unlocks. 

Medics should not be overpowered killing machines as they are in BF2.  They should carry a smaller, medium range rifle, with SMG's as unlocks.

engineers should have short range SMG's, i.e. M3 grease gun, MP38, Stens, PPSh.  unlock would be medium range, semi-auto rifles.

The US squad level machine gun was the BAR, machine guns were assigned at the company level,  M1919 would be a good unlock.  The Germans placed more value on machine guns, placing them as the heart of most platoons, with assualt troops protecting the MG emplacement.  The MG42 is far too powerful for a single person to carry, think PKM on sterroids.  uless you nerfed it, then what's the point? MG34 would be a more moderate choice, comprable to the M1919.  MG42 could possibly be an unlock.

Last edited by Reciprocity (2006-12-14 23:38:55)

l41e
Member
+677|7085

The problem with WWII is that none of the weapons are balanced. Examples:

Automatic light rifles:

US: M2 Carbine.
Germany: StG-44/MP-44/MP-43.
USSR: AVS-36.

But the UK and Japan have no comparable weapon. The UK could use the M2 Carbine, but Japan still would not have a similar weapon. Even the AVS-36 is the stretch.

Magazine-fed light machine guns:

US: M1918A1/A2 BAR.
UK: Bren Mk.2.
USSR: DP.
Japan: Type 96/Type 99.

Again, a country (Germany) does not have a comparable weapon.

Semi-automatic rifles:

US: M1 Garand.
USSR: SVT-38/SVT-40.
Germany: G43/K43.

Again, neither the UK or Japan has a comparable semi-auto, unless the BF1942 Type 5 was real. Even then the UK would have to use the Garand.

Tank balance was even worse. Tiger I > M4A3 Sherman > Type 97 Chi-Ha.
RavyGravy
Son.
+617|6842|NSW, Australia

ohhh put australia in so you can do really cool jungle fights with japan

Last edited by <<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven (2006-12-15 12:57:13)

Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|7028|Your attic
Add a spitfire to the vehicles list and you have me.
PspRpg-7
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+961|7135

Towelly wrote:

Add a spitfire to the vehicles list and you have me.
I had forgotten about this thread until I received some karma for it...And of course that'd be in there. It's WW2.
seymorebutts443
Ready for combat
+211|7032|Belchertown Massachusetts, USA

Reciprocity wrote:

The US squad level machine gun was the BAR, machine guns were assigned at the company level,  M1919 would be a good unlock.  The Germans placed more value on machine guns, placing them as the heart of most platoons, with assualt troops protecting the MG emplacement.  The MG42 is far too powerful for a single person to carry, think PKM on sterroids.  uless you nerfed it, then what's the point? MG34 would be a more moderate choice, comprable to the M1919.  MG42 could possibly be an unlock.
germans used the MG42 deployed or from the hip. granted the recoil was insane, but in CQC the 42 dominated.
l41e
Member
+677|7085

zirself wrote:

Spitfire Spitfire Mk. III
I think you mean Supermarine.

zirself again wrote:

SB2C Dauntless
The SB2C was the Helldiver. The Dauntless's designation is the SBD.
Plisken
POE2 Addict For Life
+21|7021|Vic, Australia
For the U.S/U.K land vehicles: m3a1 Lee/Grant, M4a1 Sherman, willy's jeep,m3/m5 halftrack (can be mounted with an A.A gun), DUKW (acutally amphibious), M26 Pershing, m7 Priest, MKII matilda, (just for the aussies) Sentinel cruiser tank

Russian land vehicles: T34/76, T34/85, Kv1, Kv2, IS-2, IS-3, T35, BA30 halftrack, BA64 armoured car. The rest they loaned of the Western Allies.

German land vehicles: Panzer MK4, Panzer MK5 Panther, Panzer MK6 Tiger, Wespe, SdKfz 251 halftrack, Flak-Panzer 4,  Kubalwagen (unsure of spelling)

Japanese land vehicles:T-97 Chi-Ha, T-98 halftrack (can be mounted with A.A gun),T95 Ha-Go, T1 Ho-Ha, T3 Chi-Nu

EDIT:Forgot the Japenese, sorry.

Last edited by Plisken (2006-12-16 18:06:12)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|7127|Tampa Bay Florida
I'll make some of my own, if that's alrite with you psp.  IMO, having a medic kit armed with an SMG is a recipe for disaster.  Below, every kit (except Medic) comes with one of two weapons, and the player can choose between them. 

American

Assault - M1A1 Thompson SMG or M3 Grease Gun SMG
Support - BAR or .30 Cal MG w/bipod
Rifleman - M1 Garand or M1 Carbine
Medic - Colt 1911 pistol
Engineer (includes bazooka) - Shotgun or M1 Garand
Recon - Springfield w/scope or M1A1 Carbine

British

Assault - Sten SMG or M1A1 Thompson
Support - Bren LMG or .30 cal MG w/bipod
Rifleman - Lee Enfield or M1 Garand
Medic - Webley revolver
Engineer (includes PIAT) - Shotgun or Lee Enfield
Recon - Lee Enfield w/scope or De Lisle Carbine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/De_Lisle_carbine)

Russian

Assault - Ppsh-41 SMG or Pps 42 SMG
Support - DP-28 LMG or .30 cal MG w/bipod
Rifleman - Mosin Nagant or Tokarev SVT-40 semi-auto rifle
Medic - Tokarev pistol
Engineer (includes PTRD anti-tank rifle) - shotgun or Mosin Nagant
Recon - Mosin Nagant w/scope or SVT-40

German

Assault - MP40 SMG or Schmeisser SMG
Support - MP44 or MG34 LMG
Rifleman - Mauser 98K or Gewehr 41
Medic - Luger
Engineer - shotgun or Mauser 98k
Recon - 98k w/scope or Gewehr 41

Japanese

Assault - Type 100 SMG
Support - Type 99 LMG or Type 11 LMG
Rifleman - Type 38 Arisaka or ______
Medic - Nambu pistol
Engineer (includes suicide bomb) - shotgun or Type 38 Arisaka
Recon - Type 97 sniper rifle or ______

More to come later, including unlocks (only one weapon unlock for every nation, but there are other unlocks, including different helmets, fatigues, customizable stuff, etc.)

Last edited by Spearhead (2006-12-16 18:14:08)

Plisken
POE2 Addict For Life
+21|7021|Vic, Australia

Spearhead wrote:

More to come later, including unlocks (only one weapon unlock for every nation, but there are other unlocks, including different helmets, fatigues, customizable stuff, etc.)
For that, wouldn't you have to used the tweaked BF2 engine, the one they are using for 2142?

PspRpg-7 wrote:

Unlocks:..... Medic ~ Extended clip Thompson SMG
Why don't you make it a Tommy gun?

Last edited by Plisken (2006-12-16 19:51:20)

t2krambo
Banned
+99|6964|Panama
Good idea!
some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6827

Sarrk wrote:

Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:

PspRpg-7 wrote:


I agree whole-heartedly with this, but the thing is that I doubt it's going to go into full production by DICE / EA. I was thinking more of a mod for BF2...
I dunno, if you could show that lots of people would buy it, they might put it into production.

but that involves planning and petitions, and who wants to do that
Petitions dont mean shit. Did you see how many people protested against changes in BF2 and still EA/DiCE steamrolled overthem?
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7157|California

I'm going to teach myself how to model.. so maybe we can do this thing.
PspRpg-7
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+961|7135

stryyker wrote:

I'm going to teach myself how to model.. so maybe we can do this thing.
Learn faster.

Plisken wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

More to come later, including unlocks (only one weapon unlock for every nation, but there are other unlocks, including different helmets, fatigues, customizable stuff, etc.)
For that, wouldn't you have to used the tweaked BF2 engine, the one they are using for 2142?

PspRpg-7 wrote:

Unlocks:..... Medic ~ Extended clip Thompson SMG
Why don't you make it a Tommy gun?
What...?

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