Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
I think so.
They should have to pass a background check, and that’s all.
Last edited by N.A.T.O (2007-04-16 22:28:55)
Using the same logic gun lovers use, why take away everyone's opportunity to study just because a few people have misused it?
Obviously, this is going to be less controversial now, so, sure.
Poor logic.theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
Foreigners and immigrants usually don't kill people. Guns usually do.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Lets give everyone one a gun and hope the good guys shoot the bad guys before they kill anyone.
How about that drunk immigrant that killed those 2 teenagers?
How about the 477,040 victims of gun crimes in the US last year? Edit: it was 2005, not last yearHarmor wrote:
How about that drunk immigrant that killed those 2 teenagers?
http://www.ojp.usdoj.gov/bjs/glance/tab … taltab.htm
This argument to constantly monitor students is silly. It's just a redneck trying to justify his racism. A thorough background check is already mandatory and seems to be working pretty well. Besides, the goverment's too busy monitoring the mail and phone calls of its own citizens to have the time to monitor foreigners.
Last edited by chittydog (2007-04-16 22:40:28)
How about you get some half decent gun laws ay. How fucking piss poor is it that in the state of Virginia you dont need any background checks or a licence to own/buy a gun?
Fuck you right to bear arms, the price you pay for it is just rediculus. You have a massacre every 5 years and then say; "No, it our right to own a gun!" Its more or less spitting in the face of the families who are victims in these shootings. You seem quite happy to pay this price.
All I can say is: "WAKE THE FUCK UP!"
Fuck you right to bear arms, the price you pay for it is just rediculus. You have a massacre every 5 years and then say; "No, it our right to own a gun!" Its more or less spitting in the face of the families who are victims in these shootings. You seem quite happy to pay this price.
All I can say is: "WAKE THE FUCK UP!"
Guns don't kill people, rappers do.
oh and computer games.
oh and computer games.
Would you be happy with Americans studying aboad being subject to the same measures?theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
for the love of that is holy, arn't they? if not then yes; its just a given that everyone has to go through a back ground check ie criminal records, the immigrant would happily to do so it if he/she has nothing to hide.Pubic wrote:
Would you be happy with Americans studying aboad being subject to the same measures?theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
and yes i agree with Pubic on that, for example i recall the debate on the Canadain-US border security. For Canadians who travel between the borders everyday it became a hassle to get passports and along side with the tighter security to enter the states, and then when Canada tighened her border gates and demands the US visitors needed their passports, some of them bitch; all i say is irony.
Last edited by agent146 (2007-04-17 01:39:26)
Why not electronically tag everyone? Why limit it to foreigners? Can we tag the millions of American tourists that come to the Republic of Ireland every year (even though 40 million Americans are actually Irish)? What about us tagging the US military when they use Shannon airport as a refuelling point on the way to the middle east?theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-04-17 01:33:58)
That is beyond poor logic its retarded.Spark wrote:
Poor logic.theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
Foreigners and immigrants usually don't kill people. Guns usually do.
People kill people.
You dont convict the car in a drunk driving case do you?
O I forgot you arent old enough to drive.
You would if they started blasting the locals 30 at a time.CameronPoe wrote:
Why not electronically tag everyone? Why limit it to foreigners? Can we tag the millions of American tourists that come to the Republic of Ireland every year (even though 40 million Americans are actually Irish)? What about us tagging the US military when they use Shannon airport as a refuelling point on the way to the middle east?theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
no, people kill people. guns don't think and they don't discriminate. point them and pull the trigger and a bullet comes out regardless of who or what is on the other end.Spark wrote:
Poor logic.theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
Foreigners and immigrants usually don't kill people. Guns usually do.
You nicely add up to the list of poor logic;theelviscerator wrote:
You dont convict the car in a drunk driving case do you?
O I forgot you arent old enough to drive.
The use of cars is transport.
The use of guns is ... (don't fill in hunting please, I don't know what the exact percentage is; but of all firearms it will not be more than 10% that is suitable for hunting)
R
Correct me if I am wrong. This thread is to blame foreigners for the USA's gun crime epidemic?
So guns just walk around shooting people( no human necessary)Poor logic.
Foreigners and immigrants usually don't kill people. Guns usually do.
"GIVE YOUR FUCKIN' HEAD A SHAKE!!!"
I saw it on a programme on BBC Two.mellow wrote:
Guns don't kill people, rappers do.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xv-2XYOtgCg
Last edited by m3thod (2007-04-17 07:01:59)
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
It would be nice. But as was said earlier, might as well tag all Americans seeing that it could of been a local. This country is hurting right now but it will heal, it always does. And foriegners will continue to come because America is the best. Even though we don't look so "good" to the rest of the globe people still want to come here. Go figure.theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
It does sound like a fairly pathetic suggestion. Surely given all the prior evidence it's the US citizens that should be tagged, not the foreign students. They shoot way more people.JahManRed wrote:
Correct me if I am wrong. This thread is to blame foreigners for the USA's gun crime epidemic?
Turns out he was South Korean. Time to invade South Korea!!!
Sporting/Collecting?=Robin-Hood= wrote:
You nicely add up to the list of poor logic;theelviscerator wrote:
You dont convict the car in a drunk driving case do you?
O I forgot you arent old enough to drive.
The use of cars is transport.
The use of guns is ... (don't fill in hunting please, I don't know what the exact percentage is; but of all firearms it will not be more than 10% that is suitable for hunting)
R
And to the comment that guns kill people, that is completely wrong, as, like already said, people kill people, but if you have to say something else, I'd do it like Chris Rock: Bullets kill people. Guns without bullets are as effective as stones (or Rocks ). And you can't forbid the owning of stones, can't you?
Last edited by markkos (2007-04-17 07:43:42)
Oh...guns kill. lawlSpark wrote:
Poor logic.theelviscerator wrote:
Using the same logic the gun grabbers use should all students who apply for visas be put through rigorous background checks and be subject to electronic monitoring at all times while in country?
I think so.
Foreigners and immigrants usually don't kill people. Guns usually do.