BF2S Forums Fraud probe sought after carbon offset industry, lol @ Al Gore

Guess he looks at it from a money stand point. He cant do anything concrete to help the environment, but he will most certainly take your money and help you feel better about supposedly destroying it. Typical politician really.

What does this fraud have to do with Al Gore? He speaks out about global warming, he isn't involved with any of these frauds is he?

LOL, this is liek teh duh!

Another Quality post by ATG!!!! Keep up the good work buddy!

All I know, is he is a fraud. Scam artist comes to mind as well. I could go on.

Loving his exposure as a buffoon.

CoronadoSEAL wrote:

my favorite was when he told America that he was not running for president because he wanted to fully focus on global warming.  /respect (if there was any left) lost

Also....
/more bull shit than can be found in the entire state of Oklahoma

All you have to do is look at where the guy lives.

JimmyBotswana wrote:

What does this fraud have to do with Al Gore? He speaks out about global warming, he isn't involved with any of these frauds is he?

Al Gore is a slimy cocksucker. Liar, cheat and thief. Did I forget anything?

It would certainly help him save up for another run at the presidency if he wanted.

I'm starting a new trading systems for oxygen and hydrogen to complement the carbon trading system implemented by Al Gore.  If I do it right I could control 70% of the market on the Earth.

As always, the latest attack smear (on a person who isn't even running for office?!?) by the conservative attack dogs ends up pointing one finger in the right direction, while 3 fingers are pointing right back.

All the companies listed there in the article are major conservative (other countries) / Republican donors who lobbied very hard to make sure the "Carbon Offset" legislation and regulation had no teeth whatsoever.  This of course blew the door wide open for them to manipulate and take advantage of consumers that just wanted to do the right thing.  You can't expect a corporation to do the responsible thing on their own can you?  You can expect them to try to make the most amount of money for the least amount of expenditure...this is known as profit.

To find the players in all the corruption of the world, "Follow the money." To find the captains of world corruption, "Follow the money all the way."

Basically, every attempt in the last 2 years to introduce a bill to regulate the carbon offset industry or protect consumers has been killed on arrival in Congressional committee.  CSG (Conservation Services Group), a lobbying firm, has attempted to gain sponsorship twice now for real regulations and couldn't even find a sponsor.  This is exactly how the industry wants it though, especially with the Bushies running the EPA.  Sooo, lets follow the money...

DuPont Chemical - 80% of $330,000 to Republicans, 20% to Democrats - This doesn't count individual donations from employees and shareholders, it also doesn't count money spent on pro-industry lobbying groups.
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2 … cycle=2006

BP - 66% to Republicans in the last cycle, not counting individual donations
http://www.opensecrets.org/pacs/lookup2 … cycle=2006

Interesting to note that Democrats won major despite getting the shaft in corporate donations.  Also interesting to note what a bunch of cheap whores our political leaders are (both sides), taking sometimes a pitiful $1000's of dollars in exchange for influence which makes industries $1,000,000's.

As far as using this as a cheap shot at Gore, I'd say its a long stretch at most, as well as pretty useless in the end.  Its like when the frothing conservative attack machine got all excited about Kerry's botched Iraq joke, "Wow, he's going to lose an election he's not even running in!".  My favorite lately though is Edward's $400 haircut, seems like its not even an original attack, they're just recycling Clinton attacks.  What's next, accusing Hillary of getting a blowjob?

To sum up we got -

Pointy finger at Al Gore - Why?  Because he makes a good punching bag.  I mean the guy won the 2000 election and still rolled over like a stupid sheep dog and let the Supreme Court appoint Bush.  If that's not a pussy, what is?

Finger One - Bush-controlled EPA which is anything but about "Environmental Protection" that should be on this.

Finger Two - 6 years of Republican congress that wouldn't dare regulate industries, especially silly environmental initiatives...they got gay marriage to fight!

Finger Three -  Polluting industry lobbying groups and direct PAC's, throwing money as fast as they can at politicians to ensure their long-term ability to rip-off well intentioned customers remains the status quo.

Last edited by GorillaTicTacs (2007-04-26 00:43:35)

Hehe ... you people are incredible, only the lack of knowledge is alarming enough !

Seeing as almost every statement i read both for and against GW treats the subject as a closed matter and an exact science !

The research concerning GW is an ongoing process that yet only have scratched the surface of what`s going on, we have a very good clue to what`s causing it and those are many factors to consider.

*Is a hotter sun contributing ? I`m not excluding the fact that it is, but it really isn`t that much hotter to explain GW alone, a contributing factor yes, but an absolute factor is a no !

*Is man made carbon emissions causing it ? Yes it is amongst the biggest factors proven by 2500 scientists to have an effect trapping it in the atmosphere thus blocking sunrays from going back into space ! It is correct that nature itself contributes 97% of carbon emission and it`s a very good chance the man made 3% tips the scale to an extent where nature itself cannot absorb it all !

*About the "carbon credit" system ! Al Gore didn`t invent it but he is a shareholder profiting from a system that was implemented and imho badly planned before it was set in motion. The thought of the project was a good one but as always when money is involved people will exploit it and this is sadly the case as it stands now !

*Do we care about the effects of GW ? Well i do for certain and man made or not i`m not willing to take the chance of us not doing what we can to slow or reverse the process - a reduction of carbon emissions will without a doubt be for the better for all human beings on the planet when it comes to unhealthy pollution !

No matter what we do to reduce it will be for the better in the long run both for humans and the Earth in total, we can have different opinions on what causes GW but it is in the interest of all to reduce pollution right ?

The EPA has never been about environmental protection.  It's about appeasing the environuts.  They got rid of freon which worked better and was cheaper.  Lowered the amount of water in toilet tanks supposedly to help the environment.  Less water equals more flushing to get the job done.  Meaningless regulation FTW.  Same with front load washers.  Top load washers can fit more clothes in them compared to side load.  Again, more loads, more water.  Pointless. 

If the EPA was truly concerned about the environment they'd push nuclear to eliminate the coal fired power plants that are still running.  But no, that would cost less and run more efficiently, we couldn't have that.