Please tell me it's true.

2007-05-01 08:02:24

#1

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7049|132 and Bush

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0, … mp;feed=12

April has been a very deadly month our troops. However, it has also turned out to be successful in capturing/killing top fish.

^{Abu Ayyub al-Masri is Zarqawi’s successor
as leader of Al Qaeda in Iraq.}

"TELEGRAPH says there was friction between al-Masri and “other Suni insurgent groups” over AQI’s indiscriminate murder of civilians."
Red on Red maybe?

Other recent bust/catches..
http://www.cnn.com/2007/WORLD/meast/04/ … index.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jh … raq230.xml

^{Planned the London bombings}

And of course..
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6195914.stm

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-05-01 08:03:19

#2

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6996|San Diego, CA, USA

You can't make an omlette without breaking some eggs. RIP heros.

2007-05-01 08:07:27

#3

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|7097

Harmor wrote:
You can't make an omlette without breaking some eggs. RIP heros.

Technically, you could. Although I suppose that depends on how you define 'breaking'.

2007-05-01 08:09:18

#4

naightknifar: Served and Out; +642|7009|Southampton, UK

ghettoperson wrote:
Harmor wrote:
You can't make an omlette without breaking some eggs. RIP heros.
Technically, you could. Although I suppose that depends on how you define 'breaking'.

Haha, fail.

Thankful that another few guilty assholes have been captured, shame innocent soldiers have died in the process.
RIP the dead from this bloodbath named 'War'...

2007-05-01 08:11:19

#5

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6977|Global Command

I hope so. Bastard.

2007-05-01 08:12:06

#6

Braddock: Agitator; +916|6738|Éire

Harmor wrote:
You can't make an omlette without breaking some eggs. RIP heros.

That's the kind of attitude that people who fly buildings into skyscrapers in order to further a warped campaign have. That being said I certainly won't be shedding any tears over the death of an Al Qaeda leader.

2007-05-01 08:12:19

#7

hate&discontent: USMC 0311 SEMPER FI; +69|6837|USA, MICHIGAN

i believe it was General Swartzkoph (name not in spell check) that said "they want to meet their god, and its our job to arrange the meeting"

2007-05-01 08:12:52

#8

SEREMAKER: BABYMAKIN EXPERT √; +2,187|7016|Mountains of NC

*crosses fingers*

hope that son of bitch is full of american made lead

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/17445/carhartt.jpg

2007-05-01 08:13:43

#9

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6977|Global Command

SEREMAKER wrote:
*crosses fingers*

hope that son of bitch is full of american made lead

Nope. He is rumored to have pissed of the Sunnis.

2007-05-01 08:32:40

#10

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7049|132 and Bush

hate&discontent wrote:
i believe it was General Swartzkoph (name not in spell check) that said "they want to meet their god, and its our job to arrange the meeting"

Stormin Norman wrote:
"I believe that forgiving them is God's function. Our job is simply to arrange the meeting."

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-05-01 23:04:49

#11

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6853|North Carolina

...and it's the job of KBR, Titan, CACI, Blackwater, and many others to profit from taxpayer money for war and the lives lost among our soldiers.

While it is true that we've managed to kill many terrorists in our time in Iraq, we could be killing far more of them in Afghanistan, if we stopped wasting so much effort on Iraq.

2007-05-01 23:38:11

#12

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6996|San Diego, CA, USA

Braddock wrote:
Harmor wrote:
You can't make an omlette without breaking some eggs. RIP heros.
That's the kind of attitude that people who fly buildings into skyscrapers in order to further a warped campaign have. That being said I certainly won't be shedding any tears over the death of an Al Qaeda leader.

I was referring to the troops, not Al-quada. As for Al-quada I think it more like:

The ends justify the means.

Perhaps this poem may help realize my point:

They will use their own children
to get past checkpoints
and then blow them up.

They kill innocents,
women and children
like swatting knats off your arm on a warm summers eve.

They basque in the notion of Death,
while we charish Life.

In the end we will win,
but only if we are willing to help them realize
that their way of life leads only to death.

Either that or we kill so many of them they give up.

Last edited by Harmor (2007-05-01 23:40:34)

2007-05-02 00:06:46

#13

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7049|132 and Bush

Turquoise wrote:
...and it's the job of KBR, Titan, CACI, Blackwater, and many others to profit from taxpayer money for war and the lives lost among our soldiers.

While it is true that we've managed to kill many terrorists in our time in Iraq, we could be killing far more of them in Afghanistan, if we stopped wasting so much effort on Iraq.

I know you enjoy pointing out time and time again the fact that companies like Blackwater make money off doing contract labor. I'd be wiling to bet it wouldn't be a job you would eagerly take, regardless of pay. Unless you weren't concerned with the possibility of being murdered and left to hang from a bridge in Fallujah. Less than half the money spent in Iraq is going to contract labor (Ironicaly we probably need more Merc's and less troops). Let's enjoy the little good news we hear from Iraq and try not to fall into the stereotypical cliche that even good news is turned into bad news by the anti war movement. These last couple weeks have seen the top guys over there captured, the ones actually doing the planning. There will be plenty of bombings tomorrow for your argument.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-05-02 00:18:02

#14

maffiaw: ph33r me 傻逼; +40|6869|Melbourne, AUS

what goddamn difference does it make? You can kill 10 of his succesors and still more will take his place. pointless to gloat.
Zarqawi killed! Hooray!
Al-Iraqi captured! Hooray!
Killings and violence stays at the same level. Hooray?

2007-05-02 00:24:22

#15

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7049|132 and Bush

maffiaw wrote:
what goddamn difference does it make? You can kill 10 of his succesors and still more will take his place. pointless to gloat.
Zarqawi killed! Hooray!
Al-Iraqi captured! Hooray!
Killings and violence stays at the same level. Hooray?

Justice for one. I am sure they will be replaced, but assume they put thier most competent members in top positions from their pool of would be terrorist masterminds. It opens the doors for the less skilled to assume the role and increases the probability of more mistakes. Not exactly rocket science... hooray. But you have demonstrated your viewpoint, taking out leaders who are planning attacks is pointless. You go ahead and run with that.

You might also pay attention to the article which suggest he could have been taken out by his own. I would say internal struggles are significant. Especially if this is the issue "There had been friction between Masri and other Sunni insurgent groups, particularly over al-Qa’eda’s indiscriminate killing of civilians."

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-05-02 00:28:36

#16

djphetal: Go Ducks.; +346|6784|Oregon

I've left behind politics and picked up existentialism.

It's much nicer. That way, i can respond to this topic in the following fashion:

"I think things will eventually work out in a method premeditated by fate's scepter of unwavering truth."

2007-05-02 00:33:03

#17

maffiaw: ph33r me 傻逼; +40|6869|Melbourne, AUS

You are a master of assumptions dear Kmarion. You seem to have an innate understanding of an anti-Us resistance movement hardly anyone truly knows about.
You may stick to your logic, but the relentlessness of the insurgency speaks for itself despite numerous kills on behalf of the US.
Furthermore, i may be wrong, but I seriously doubt immersing oneself in a sympathetic population and carrying out suicidal/guerilla tactics against an isolated body of soldiers is even close to rocket science.
That is all.

2007-05-02 00:42:30

#18

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7049|132 and Bush

maffiaw wrote:
You are a master of assumptions dear Kmarion. You seem to have an innate understanding of an anti-Us resistance movement hardly anyone truly knows about.
You may stick to your logic, but the relentlessness of the insurgency speaks for itself despite numerous kills on behalf of the US.
Furthermore, i may be wrong, but I seriously doubt immersing oneself in a sympathetic population and carrying out suicidal/guerilla tactics against an isolated body of soldiers is even close to rocket science.
That is all.

Are you proclaiming that there are not organized groups carrying out attacks in Iraq? I never claimed to understand the minds of animals. I do understand warfare. And here is some late breaking news just for you, our enemies think they are at war with us. They plan, organize, and conduct thought out attacks every day. Taking one of their leaders out is a good thing no matter how you desperately try to dress it up as irrelevant. You will just have to find someone else to surrender to.

I have my own reasons for not being in Iraq. Ones that are rarely mentioned by anyone else here. But if we left tomorrow and this guy is sleeping with the fishes, I will be "gloating". He kills women and children indiscriminately.

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2007-05-02 00:57:30

#19

~FuzZz~: .yag era uoy fi siht deaR; +422|6770|Orrstrayleea

Braddock wrote:
Harmor wrote:
You can't make an omlette without breaking some eggs. RIP heros.
That's the kind of attitude that people who fly buildings into skyscrapers in order to further a warped campaign have. That being said I certainly won't be shedding any tears over the death of an Al Qaeda leader.

Tell us how someone would fly a building into a skyscraper? lol, jks jks but seriously, it takes real courage and guts to go to war, it may not seem a big deal when you say it but just think about the hardship that the soldiers famalies go through, imagine not getting up at 9 in the morning and having food and drink, or computers or internets, im proud of the soldiers i personly know and realise what they are doing for us

2007-05-02 01:00:49

#20

maffiaw: ph33r me 傻逼; +40|6869|Melbourne, AUS

Note that I hold no personal attack against you Kmarion. I have not been to Iraq either, so this is a discussion between two ppl detached from the situation.
Indeed, the killing of a leader may be a 'good' thing for the fellas fighting over there, but my question is:
Is it right to assume that things will improve just because 'another one bits the dust"? Is it right to assume even, that such organisation skill of these 'animals' decreases with each kill, or do his/her successors gain more motivation and XP to increasingly lethalise their attacks?
The situation over there suggests other than your opinion.

2007-05-02 07:35:45

#21

Bubbalo: The Lizzard; +541|7009

You do know that it doesn't matter? The biggest advantage of your enemy is their command structure: they don't have one. At least, no integral one. They don't recieve anything more than broad directives. They aren't a conventional army.

2007-05-02 09:32:32

#22

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|7049|132 and Bush

Bubbalo wrote:
You do know that it doesn't matter? The biggest advantage of your enemy is their command structure: they don't have one. At least, no integral one. They don't recieve anything more than broad directives. They aren't a conventional army.

It matters for the fact it is one less murderer in Iraq. In the grand scheme of things it probably won't have an impact. But if the reports are true, that there is some kind of disagreement in attacking civilians within their inner circles, I would say it matters much. That would be a change in attitude and tactics. We will have to wait and see, I am not holding my breathe considering the timing of these reports and Presidential "vetoes".

Xbone Stormsurgezz

BF2S Forums Please tell me it's true.

Harmor wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Harmor wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

hate&discontent wrote:

Stormin Norman wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

maffiaw wrote:

maffiaw wrote:

Braddock wrote:

Harmor wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Board footer