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Knee Deep In Clunge
+489|6908|Tyne & Wear, England
I cant fucking wait, I'm going to go out and get trolleyed in celebration, in a smoke-free pub.  Best thing our government did in a long while.
Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.
CloakedStarship
Member
+76|7010
We here in New York have had a smoking ban since May of 2003, just FYI.

Cigarette smoking is a choice.  Yeah, okay, most things are.  It is however, a stupid choice.  Now if your going to make a stupid decision, who am I to stop you?  If it only affects you, then whatever, I don't care.  Fact of the matter is that smoking will adversely affect the health of all the people around you, spreading cancer causing agents amongst the populous of the building you are in, mainly the restaurants, pubs/bars ect.  Thats why it is considered a public health issue, no?

Schwarzelungen wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

We have had it for 2 months now. I don't smoke tobacco so I am all for it. Only problem is now all you can smell is unhygienic people and beer farts.
id take cigarette smoke over beer farts anyday
Beer Farts: Smell
Cigarette Smoke: Smell, can cause cancer

Beer Farts 4 me.

KnowMeByTrailOfDead wrote:

CC-Marley wrote:

What about the freedom of those who don't want to inhale the nasty smoke and those who may not want to eat next to a nasty ashtray.
Freedom of Choice, go somewhere else.  Just think of what will happen when they apply the smoking ban to all forms of combustion.  It is right around the corner, no more gas cars, coal power or camp fires.
You go somewhere else.  People shouldn't have to go anywhere because your being disgusting, you should.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7006

iamangry wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

On Sunday July 1st the ban on smoking in enclosed places comes into effect in England & Wales and makes tomorrow night the last in which you can enjoy a fag with your pint at the local.  I for one plan to go out with a camera so I can take a picture of myself with a ciggie to show the grand kids.  Are there any other UK smokers here or anyone other smokers who live under a ban like this already?

I live in Oxford and for most of the pubs, popping outside won't be a problem; being a University city most of the pubs in town have gardens (although you do have to put up with a lot of American students, lol).  Our nightclubs, in comparison, won't currently let you out once you're in so how is that going to work?

Muscian Joe Jackson is an outspoken opponent of the smoking ban and had this to say: -

"Smokers are now the only minority whose minority status is quoted as justification for abuse.  Britain is becoming a society in which the extreme agendas of health officials and lobby groups are allowed to determine public policy. Freedom of choice, tradition, tolerance, pleasure, property rights, market forces and public opinion are being swept aside by a fanatical fringe."
You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!
You know, in a different context, say if it went something more like this:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

On July 1st the ban on Islam comes into effect in England and Wales.  I'm a muslim.

Muscian Joe Jackson is an outspoken proponent of the Islam ban and had this to say: -

"Muslims are now the only minority whose minority status is quoted as justification for abuse.  Britain is becoming a society in which the extreme agendas of health officials and lobby groups are allowed to determine public policy. Freedom of choice, tradition, tolerance, pleasure, property rights, market forces and public opinion are being swept aside by a fanatical fringe."
You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!
---- you wouldn't have your head on right now, or maybe you'd just get a car packed with Ampho in your living room.  I know you're being sarcastic, but I want to use your statement to make a suggestion to everyone on this forum.  If you're unsure about whether you'll offend someone with your words, think about it in a context similar to the one above and consider what would happen to you.  If you would still be alive, its probably a politically correct thing to say.  Otherwise, you put Islam above other minorities by censoring pictures of their God in your TV shows and by apologizing when you tell them they're violent and they go burn churches. 
Just something to think about.  Britain and minorities brought it up for me, maybe it does for others.
Since when has believing in a different God ever hurt anybody?
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

Bubbalo wrote:

iamangry wrote:

buLLet_t00th wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

On Sunday July 1st the ban on smoking in enclosed places comes into effect in England & Wales and makes tomorrow night the last in which you can enjoy a fag with your pint at the local.  I for one plan to go out with a camera so I can take a picture of myself with a ciggie to show the grand kids.  Are there any other UK smokers here or anyone other smokers who live under a ban like this already?

I live in Oxford and for most of the pubs, popping outside won't be a problem; being a University city most of the pubs in town have gardens (although you do have to put up with a lot of American students, lol).  Our nightclubs, in comparison, won't currently let you out once you're in so how is that going to work?

Muscian Joe Jackson is an outspoken opponent of the smoking ban and had this to say: -

"Smokers are now the only minority whose minority status is quoted as justification for abuse.  Britain is becoming a society in which the extreme agendas of health officials and lobby groups are allowed to determine public policy. Freedom of choice, tradition, tolerance, pleasure, property rights, market forces and public opinion are being swept aside by a fanatical fringe."
You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!
You know, in a different context, say if it went something more like this:

buLLet_t00th wrote:


You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!
---- you wouldn't have your head on right now, or maybe you'd just get a car packed with Ampho in your living room.  I know you're being sarcastic, but I want to use your statement to make a suggestion to everyone on this forum.  If you're unsure about whether you'll offend someone with your words, think about it in a context similar to the one above and consider what would happen to you.  If you would still be alive, its probably a politically correct thing to say.  Otherwise, you put Islam above other minorities by censoring pictures of their God in your TV shows and by apologizing when you tell them they're violent and they go burn churches. 
Just something to think about.  Britain and minorities brought it up for me, maybe it does for others.
Since when has believing in a different God ever hurt anybody?
Erm... Since like forever!
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7088
its really not that big of a deal
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

its really not that big of a deal
Do you smoke?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7006

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Erm... Since like forever!
Give me an example?
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

Bubbalo wrote:

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Erm... Since like forever!
Give me an example?
I'll give you two, involving two different 'right' religions:

1. The Crusades.
2. Islamic Extremism.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7006
No, massive armies of religious extremists hurt people.  Believing in a different God has never hurt anyone.
NemeSiS-Factor
Favorite Weapon? Pistol
+29|7114|Everett, WA, US

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

makes tomorrow night the last in which you can enjoy a fag with your pint at the local.
The internet is not in the UK.  You do know what that means to most people in here right?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7006
Well, there's no point if you don't smoke after......................
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

Bubbalo wrote:

No, massive armies of religious extremists hurt people.  Believing in a different God has never hurt anyone.
Massive armies of religious extremists who believed in a different god to their victims hurt people.

Though, to be honest I'm splitting hairs, and you're correct - the mere act of belief doesn't harm anyone.

It is actions that hurt people, not belief.

However a lot of hurt has been done in the name of belief, against those that believe differently.
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7210|Cambridge (UK)

NemeSiS-Factor wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

makes tomorrow night the last in which you can enjoy a fag with your pint at the local.
The internet is not in the UK.  You do know what that means to most people in here right?
And after enjoying the fag, you can spark up... oh... bubbalo already did that joke didn't he...
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7006

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

No, massive armies of religious extremists hurt people.  Believing in a different God has never hurt anyone.
Massive armies of religious extremists who believed in a different god to their victims hurt people.

Though, to be honest I'm splitting hairs, and you're correct - the mere act of belief doesn't harm anyone.

It is actions that hurt people, not belief.

However a lot of hurt has been done in the name of belief, against those that believe differently.
And the action is illegal.  Same as wanting to smoke doesn't harm anyone, and that isn't illegal.  Smoking in enclosed areas does, and that is.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|7140|NJ

buLLet_t00th wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

On Sunday July 1st the ban on smoking in enclosed places comes into effect in England & Wales and makes tomorrow night the last in which you can enjoy a fag with your pint at the local.  I for one plan to go out with a camera so I can take a picture of myself with a ciggie to show the grand kids.  Are there any other UK smokers here or anyone other smokers who live under a ban like this already?

I live in Oxford and for most of the pubs, popping outside won't be a problem; being a University city most of the pubs in town have gardens (although you do have to put up with a lot of American students, lol).  Our nightclubs, in comparison, won't currently let you out once you're in so how is that going to work?

Muscian Joe Jackson is an outspoken opponent of the smoking ban and had this to say: -

"Smokers are now the only minority whose minority status is quoted as justification for abuse.  Britain is becoming a society in which the extreme agendas of health officials and lobby groups are allowed to determine public policy. Freedom of choice, tradition, tolerance, pleasure, property rights, market forces and public opinion are being swept aside by a fanatical fringe."
You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!
Yeah and the smell of cheep booze and your enlarged liver makes you well you know what you said.. Don't throw stones if you live in a glass house.
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7006
Is his beer going to get you drunk?

I think not.
XanKrieger
iLurk
+60|7102|South West England

buLLet_t00th wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

On Sunday July 1st the ban on smoking in enclosed places comes into effect in England & Wales and makes tomorrow night the last in which you can enjoy a fag with your pint at the local.  I for one plan to go out with a camera so I can take a picture of myself with a ciggie to show the grand kids.  Are there any other UK smokers here or anyone other smokers who live under a ban like this already?

I live in Oxford and for most of the pubs, popping outside won't be a problem; being a University city most of the pubs in town have gardens (although you do have to put up with a lot of American students, lol).  Our nightclubs, in comparison, won't currently let you out once you're in so how is that going to work?

Muscian Joe Jackson is an outspoken opponent of the smoking ban and had this to say: -

"Smokers are now the only minority whose minority status is quoted as justification for abuse.  Britain is becoming a society in which the extreme agendas of health officials and lobby groups are allowed to determine public policy. Freedom of choice, tradition, tolerance, pleasure, property rights, market forces and public opinion are being swept aside by a fanatical fringe."
You're the fucking stinky, unhealthy minority my friend! I can't fucking wait!
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7088

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

its really not that big of a deal
Do you smoke?
almost a pack a day

dont smoke inside my house either.

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-06-29 00:01:26)

CC-Marley
Member
+407|7273
There is nothing worse than a chick who smokes. Their skin, hair, clothes, and mouth reek of a combo of smoke, perfume, deodorant , and most likely alcohol. I see it every night  I work. Thank god my girlfriend doesn't smoke and rarely drinks. She is a vegetarian though....
BVC
Member
+325|7140
A few years ago we had similar law changes, but they were only restricted to pubs/clubs/restaurants, and theres no distance restriction.  Some places have now created outdoor areas in which you can smoke.

I don't smoke, so the law didn't affect me in a bad way; now I don't come home smelling like ciggarettes, coughing up foul-tasting phlegm.  Good change if you ask me.

And fuck, kissing a woman who smokes/eating her pussy, it tastes so rotten!!
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7285|Cologne, Germany

the freedom of the indivual ends when his actions hurt other people. I am happy to see you ruin your health, just don't do it in a place where it can ruin mine.

I don't live in the UK, but I applaud the UK government for their courage to stand up to the smoking lobbyists. This decision will undoubtedly affect the health of hundreds of thousands UK citizens in a positive way. And not only that, it will also - on the long run - reduce the cost of smoking-induced illnesses to the NHS.

The German government has already banned smoking in all public offices, buildings and train stations, and is currently working on legislation to make smoking illegal in all bars, restaurants, and clubs. But due to the complex federal legal situation this can take a while. Thus, every state ( Bundesland ) in germany has its own regulations atm, with no federal law being in place.

Personally, I can't wait for the day when I can enter my favourite bar, club or disco without having to put up with passive smoking, and the foul stench of smoke in my hair and on my clothes the next morning. It's simply disgusting.

With that being said, I realize that - statistically speaking - more people die each year from alcohol abuse than die from smoke related illnesses, and that's surely tragic. But alcoholics don't affect my health in the same way that smokers do, so I guess the two situations really cannot be compared.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7285|Cologne, Germany

Pubic wrote:

....
And fuck, kissing a woman who smokes/eating her pussy, it tastes so rotten!!
QFT and rofl....
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6995|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth
At the marketing company I work at, they told me that when Ireland imposed the ban, sales of deodrant shot up.  Some of you seem to think that a smokeless bar full of sweaty people and stale beer will smell like pot pourri, I think there will be some suprises.

I also note that a lot of people here are still naive about passive smoking and buy the sensationalist media. Go and look into the research and again you'll be suprised by conflicting evidence.  There is more eveidence on global warming than this is on passive smoking and yet we don't see cars being banned.
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6995|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

Pubic wrote:

And fuck, kissing a woman who smokes/eating her pussy, it tastes so rotten!!
Eh?  I don't know any woman that smoke with their pussy.....wtf?!?!?
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7285|Cologne, Germany

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Pubic wrote:

And fuck, kissing a woman who smokes/eating her pussy, it tastes so rotten!!
Eh?  I don't know any woman that smoke with their pussy.....wtf?!?!?
oh, come on...you know exactly what he meant. Don't be a smartass.


no, wait....how old are you ?

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