ig
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...you will definitely want to join this facebook group. invite all of your friends, and make sure that they invite their friends also. it's time for the students to step up and make something happen about this bullshit that they call the bcs.
http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2219488694
BlackKoala
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The way I see it, the BCS will stay, but it needs an overhaul.

It's it's probably going to be OSU and LSU in the NC game, btw.  Georgia's probably going to get leapfrogged because they didn't play this week. 
ig
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BlackKoala wrote:

The way I see it, the BCS will stay, but it needs an overhaul.

It's it's probably going to be OSU and LSU in the NC game, btw.  Georgia's probably going to get leapfrogged because they didn't play this week. 
which is bullshit because you can argue both ways. there shouldn't be an argument at all. tournaments are ftw. does the ncaa not realize how much money they would stand to make off of a tournament of such colossal proportions? bowl games are and always will be bullshit to me.
BlackKoala
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ig wrote:

BlackKoala wrote:

The way I see it, the BCS will stay, but it needs an overhaul.

It's it's probably going to be OSU and LSU in the NC game, btw.  Georgia's probably going to get leapfrogged because they didn't play this week. 
which is bullshit because you can argue both ways. there shouldn't be an argument at all. tournaments are ftw. does the ncaa not realize how much money they would stand to make off of a tournament of such colossal proportions? bowl games are and always will be bullshit to me.
The second you throw a tournament into college football, you turn it into the POS that is the end of the NFL season.  Starters get benched because teams don't 'need' wins, games get less fun to watch. 

Keep the bowls, but seriously redo the BCS, lol.
ig
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BlackKoala wrote:

ig wrote:

BlackKoala wrote:

The way I see it, the BCS will stay, but it needs an overhaul.

It's it's probably going to be OSU and LSU in the NC game, btw.  Georgia's probably going to get leapfrogged because they didn't play this week. 
which is bullshit because you can argue both ways. there shouldn't be an argument at all. tournaments are ftw. does the ncaa not realize how much money they would stand to make off of a tournament of such colossal proportions? bowl games are and always will be bullshit to me.
The second you throw a tournament into college football, you turn it into the POS that is the end of the NFL season.  Starters get benched because teams don't 'need' wins, games get less fun to watch. 

Keep the bowls, but seriously redo the BCS, lol.
are you kidding me dude? it would do the opposite. teams would care a lot more about the regular season and trying to clinch a berth for the playoffs. every game would have a lot more meaning and be way more intense. it also gives the underdogs a chance. hawaii not getting a chance at the national title alone is enough to make the non-believers see that a tournament is the only way to go.

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Jenspm
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I <3 NASN.

College football all day! In Europe!



I <3 LSU and Florida Gators
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Jenspm wrote:

I <3 LSU and Florida Gators
die in a fire

tebow is the shit however
Jenspm
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ig wrote:

Jenspm wrote:

I <3 LSU and Florida Gators
die in a fire

tebow is the shit however
Tebow is hurt
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BlackKoala
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ig wrote:

BlackKoala wrote:

ig wrote:


which is bullshit because you can argue both ways. there shouldn't be an argument at all. tournaments are ftw. does the ncaa not realize how much money they would stand to make off of a tournament of such colossal proportions? bowl games are and always will be bullshit to me.
The second you throw a tournament into college football, you turn it into the POS that is the end of the NFL season.  Starters get benched because teams don't 'need' wins, games get less fun to watch. 

Keep the bowls, but seriously redo the BCS, lol.
are you kidding me dude? it would do the opposite. teams would care a lot more about the regular season and trying to clinch a berth for the playoffs. every game would have a lot more meaning and be way more intense. it also gives the underdogs a chance. hawaii not getting a chance at the national title alone is enough to make the non-believers see that a tournament is the only way to go.
If Hawaii gets anywhere near a title game with the BCS, I will never watch College football again.
ig
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BlackKoala wrote:

ig wrote:

BlackKoala wrote:


The second you throw a tournament into college football, you turn it into the POS that is the end of the NFL season.  Starters get benched because teams don't 'need' wins, games get less fun to watch. 

Keep the bowls, but seriously redo the BCS, lol.
are you kidding me dude? it would do the opposite. teams would care a lot more about the regular season and trying to clinch a berth for the playoffs. every game would have a lot more meaning and be way more intense. it also gives the underdogs a chance. hawaii not getting a chance at the national title alone is enough to make the non-believers see that a tournament is the only way to go.
If Hawaii gets anywhere near a title game with the BCS, I will never watch College football again.
i don't think that they should go right now either. they didn't play anybody. however, colt brennan is fucking amazing, and i'll be damned if they don't at least deserve a chance. ohio state didn't play anybody either...
BlackKoala
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ig wrote:

BlackKoala wrote:

ig wrote:


are you kidding me dude? it would do the opposite. teams would care a lot more about the regular season and trying to clinch a berth for the playoffs. every game would have a lot more meaning and be way more intense. it also gives the underdogs a chance. hawaii not getting a chance at the national title alone is enough to make the non-believers see that a tournament is the only way to go.
If Hawaii gets anywhere near a title game with the BCS, I will never watch College football again.
i don't think that they should go right now either. they didn't play anybody. however, colt brennan is fucking amazing, and i'll be damned if they don't at least deserve a chance. ohio state didn't play anybody either...
Yeah, but Ohio state played in the Big Ten.  Hate it as you may (and you do, you're an SEC fan...) you can't compare it to the WAC.  You just...can't.  IDAHOOO POWERRRR.

Michigan, Penn St., Purdue, Wisconsin.  No, not all headline teams, but were all ranked before OSU booted them out of the top 25.  I'm an OSU fan, and even I agree that we aren't the best team in the country right now.  I'd much rather watch an LSU vs. USC championship game, but not gunna happen.  (Although, Tressel will out coach the fuck out of Miles.)
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That's not football you liar
ig
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BlackKoala wrote:

ig wrote:

BlackKoala wrote:


If Hawaii gets anywhere near a title game with the BCS, I will never watch College football again.
i don't think that they should go right now either. they didn't play anybody. however, colt brennan is fucking amazing, and i'll be damned if they don't at least deserve a chance. ohio state didn't play anybody either...
Yeah, but Ohio state played in the Big Ten.  Hate it as you may (and you do, you're an SEC fan...) you can't compare it to the WAC.  You just...can't.  IDAHOOO POWERRRR.

Michigan, Penn St., Purdue, Wisconsin.  No, not all headline teams, but were all ranked before OSU booted them out of the top 25.  I'm an OSU fan, and even I agree that we aren't the best team in the country right now.  I'd much rather watch an LSU vs. USC championship game, but not gunna happen.  (Although, Tressel will out coach the fuck out of Miles.)
back to the original point of this thread. do you still not feel that a tournament is the only way to go? the best team will win. there will be no arguments.
Yellowman03
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ya...i've always disliked how they do the bowl games. A bracket would be alot better
Mekstizzle
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I was gonna join my college footy team, but I couldn't be arsed to go to the trials.

Oh w8

ur talkin about American Football

and ur talkin about American College aka University

k

soz
Jenspm
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Can someone please quickly explain what the SEC, Big Ten, WAC, etc are?

And are games like the orange bowl, the rose bowl, etc for only one of these division or whatever?



What I have gathered from TV is that some WAC leader has done a great job, and that Hawaii is a good WAC team.


Also, those ranks (I believe it's 1-15?), are they for a specific division only, or for all the teams?





/cunfoosed
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ig
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Jenspm wrote:

Can someone please quickly explain what the SEC, Big Ten, WAC, etc are?
conferences. usually about 12 teams in each one and based on location/skill level.

Jenspm wrote:

And are games like the orange bowl, the rose bowl, etc for only one of these division or whatever?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bowl_Championship_Series

Jenspm wrote:

What I have gathered from TV is that some WAC leader has done a great job, and that Hawaii is a good WAC team.
WAC was won by Hawaii last night.

Jenspm wrote:

Also, those ranks (I believe it's 1-15?), are they for a specific division only, or for all the teams?
1-25, and they are for the entire division, not individual conferences.

Jenspm wrote:

/cunfoosed
better?

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Jenspm
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so the problem is that the WAC teams don't have a chance to get to the BCS?
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ig
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Jenspm wrote:

so the problem is that the WAC teams don't have a chance to get to the BCS?
that's a smaller part of the bigger problem. hawaii will play in a bcs bowl game but not the national championship. it really is the most confusing thing in any sport. exactly why there needs to be some kind of bracket tourney.
usmarine
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sigh...

BCS works for so many reasons, it is not going away.  These bowl games draw in an insane amount of money.  Hawaii has a budget of 2.2 mil per year for their football program.  The bowl game they are going two will get them at least 4.2 mil...for one game.  Schools will not change the system just for the fans with that kind of money involved.

Also, the BCS has people talking.  People argue and have TV shows, not to mention radio and print.  It generates news and interest...not to mention a shit pile of cash.

Face it, there is one way to get it to change, and that is to stop watching it.  Once people stop watching, the sponsors will go away and the profits will shrink.  But we all know that is not going to happen.  So complain all you want, it won't do a damn thing.  The only power you have is for you to stop watching games and buying merchandise.  But I highly doubt that will happen.
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usmarine2005 wrote:

sigh...

BCS works for so many reasons, it is not going away.  These bowl games draw in an insane amount of money.  Hawaii has a budget of 2.2 mil per year for their football program.  The bowl game they are going two will get them at least 4.2 mil...for one game.  Schools will not change the system just for the fans with that kind of money involved.

Also, the BCS has people talking.  People argue and have TV shows, not to mention radio and print.  It generates news and interest...not to mention a shit pile of cash.

Face it, there is one way to get it to change, and that is to stop watching it.  Once people stop watching, the sponsors will go away and the profits will shrink.  But we all know that is not going to happen.  So complain all you want, it won't do a damn thing.  The only power you have is for you to stop watching games and buying merchandise.  But I highly doubt that will happen.
such a buzzkill...
you don't think a tournament would raise as much, if not more, than a damn bowl game? you make some pretty good points; i'll give you that. think about it though.

Playoff system of 12 teams:
-11 game regular season
-4 Conferences play for a "Conference championship" and the winners get an automatic bye in the first round
-The remaining 8 other teams play in the first round

-Now we have 8 teams will circle seeding (1v8, 2v7, etc)

-Make the playoff games leading up to the Championship Bowls (With the 8 in the second round have the 8 teams play the Fiesta, Sugar, Orange and Rose)
-This system takes 11 bowls away from the 32 bowl series and leaves 21 bowls to pick 42 teams in the usual way


seems pretty win/win to me...
usmarine
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Ya but it still comes down to voters.  It is easy to blame the BCS, but look at the voters.  They voted LSU behind VT last week, even though LSU beat them by like 41 points or something.  If you think BCS is unfair and controversial, try putting a bracket together by those same voters.

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