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Enzzenmachine
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+20|6624
firstly I did use the search button and last threads about it was several months ago and unhelpful in my case. as the tittle says I'm on vista 64 bits now and I'm starting to regret it. No games work on it (that computer was doomed to be a gaming computer), I mean I can play CoD4 like 5 mins and then it says that window had to shut down. At first I was like "wtf" then with the help of other people I figured out that the problem was vista 64 bits.
So I tried to know more and apparently there are patches which allow you to play games on 64 bits. Only problem is that I can't find them. If you guys know any website with such patches, gimme the link. Any help is welcome.

thx

... that's one more thing showing how microsoft marketing sucks big time and how it's led by _ _ _ _ _ _ (put whatever you want).


From my view I'd NOT advice vista 64 bits to anyone who wants a gaming computer unless to those who wanna waste their time by trying to find special patches on some unfoundable websites.
Kurazoo
Pheasant Plucker
+440|6963|West Yorkshire, U.K
It's Vista 64 Bit not bits, my friend has 64bit vista and has no problems :S

Last edited by Kurazoo (2008-02-11 07:51:48)

Enzzenmachine
Member
+20|6624
you can't play a game working on 32 bit on 64 bit without installing a patch made purposely for it. Look BF2 work on XP 32 bit only (and I guess vista 32 bit also) but not on XP 64 bit unless you download a special patch. And this is what I'm seeking... these "special patches"

btw I tried to change the compatibility mod of CoD4 and it doesn't work. Actually it doesn't recognize the DVD when I do it.

Last edited by Enzzenmachine (2008-02-11 07:59:01)

xGj
Official lame Crysis fanboy.
+84|6650|Netherlands tbh

Enzzenmachine wrote:

you can't play a game working on 32 bit on 64 bit without installing a patch made purposely for it. Look BF2 work on XP 32 bit only (and I guess vista 32 bit also) but not on XP 64 bit unless you download a special patch. And this is what I'm seeking... these "special patches"

btw I tried to change the compatibility mod of CoD4 and it doesn't work. Actually it doesn't recognize the DVD when I do it.
Sorry. You're totally wrong. 64 bit windows has a 32 bit emulator so it can run 32 bit apps. There are ofcourse some incompatibilities with some things due to the fact 64 bit isn't a widely standard yet, but I have Vista 64 and it works totally fine. The problem does not lie in the fact it's 64 bit for your games, something else is ruining it for you. Tried installing the newest video card drivers? Else it could  be something in your windows corrupted so you could do a reformat and reinstall of windows, should work I guess, or the problem lies elsewhere, maybe in your hardware. A little of your specs would maybe help.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

LET ME SAY ONE THING FIRST: I have Vista x64 ultimate and I have absolutely NO problems. I can play ANY 32bit games just fine.
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Enzzenmachine
Member
+20|6624
actually I didn't make the computer at all. It's a new one I ordered several weeks ago and that I got friday. According to what I can see on the bill (cause it's written on it), the computer passed all tests so... gonna call a guy I know about it. I'll see what he can tell me. Maybe then a problem with drivers or something I'm honestly not sure of anything anymore.

*edit* I did forgot to mention what happens exactly. I can play 5 mins a game, then it stuck suddenly and 2 sec later I have a bluescreen saying that window had to shut down (the computer doesn't lemme the time to read more since it reboots like 5 sec later)

Last edited by Enzzenmachine (2008-02-11 08:55:00)

']['error
Banned
+630|6922|The Netherlands
erm I play BF2 and CoD:4 on vista ultimate x64 withouth any problems
topal63
. . .
+533|6997

Enzzenmachine wrote:

actually I didn't make the computer at all. It's a new one I ordered several weeks ago and that I got friday. According to what I can see on the bill (cause it's written on it), the computer passed all tests so... gonna call a guy I know about it. I'll see what he can tell me. Maybe then a problem with drivers or something I'm honestly not sure of anything anymore.

*edit* I did forgot to mention what happens exactly. I can play 5 mins a game, then it stuck suddenly and 2 sec later I have a bluescreen saying that window had to shut down (the computer doesn't lemme the time to read more since it reboots like 5 sec later)
You might want to install all the available Vista 64 updates, I think. There are a lot of Vista updates available for gaming & video issues regarding compatibility (true for 32 and this is also true for 64 bit).

What kind of video board do you use ATI or Nvidia?

ATI (64 bit drivers found here): http://ati.amd.com/support/drivers/vist … sta64.html
Nvidia (signed drivers) found here: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
Vista hotfix issues found here: http://www.nvidia.com/object/windows_vi … fixes.html
(Install them all, if the hotfix doesn't apply it will tell you when you install it)

Your mainboard chipset may need updating drivers as well.
Nvidia (nforce chipset drivers) found on the same page as video drivers: http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us

For Intel chipset drivers you'll have to navigate this site: http://downloadcenter.intel.com/default … t_Download

Anyways.. I believe you when you say your computer is crashing. Why would you lie? That's a rhetorical question. Also right out the box, fresh install, etc, direct from a manufacturer/computer assembler - I have received computers that crash due to improper; or wrong; driver installations.

Enzzenmachine, your best bet when trouble shooting a (hardware/OS crash) problem is to try everything/anything you can think of. I would go ahead and check the drivers. Your not the only one to have Issues with games on Vista (32 bit and 64 bit). Example (non-game): On one CADD machine I had, every program, I own, would work except the CADD program - the one I needed most. It was a incorrect chipset driver for the DMA controller that was causing the problem. After tracking down the correct driver (that was not on the re-seller/assembler's website) and installing - the memory errors in the CADD program stopped and I never had my CADD program crash ever again.

___________

They last thing I can think of is drivers for your sound-card or on mainboard sound?
You'll need to find out what you're using... or I mean what is on your mainboard if your using a built-on board sound-chipset. From my experience I've had the most problems with crashing do to poorly written sound-drivers.
___________

I just did a clean install of Vista 64 and did what I am suggesting you should do.

___________

PS: I reinstalled Crysis and the 64 bit DX10 ".EXE" runs 10-15% slower than the 32bit Version of Crysis in DX9 (and it looks the same, except clouds). Both running under Vista 64 bit. Makes you wonder? Whats the point of DX10 beyond better looking volumetric clouds, smoke, etc? A slower rendering pathway? Lame, fuck, LOL,

Last edited by topal63 (2008-02-11 11:29:10)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6860|SE London

Enzzenmachine wrote:

you can't play a game working on 32 bit on 64 bit without installing a patch made purposely for it. Look BF2 work on XP 32 bit only (and I guess vista 32 bit also) but not on XP 64 bit unless you download a special patch. And this is what I'm seeking... these "special patches"

btw I tried to change the compatibility mod of CoD4 and it doesn't work. Actually it doesn't recognize the DVD when I do it.
Nonsense. I (and countless other people) run BF2, CoD4, Crysis etc. all in Vista X64 and they all run fine. There is no need for special compatibility fixes, as far as I am aware they will run on a fresh Vista x64 install (with proper drivers) straight out of the box.

Running 64-bit compatible games gives a slight speed boost too, only a very slight difference, but hey, when you're playing Crysis every little counts.
Zimmer
Un Moderador
+1,688|7034|Scotland

Enzzenmachine wrote:

actually I didn't make the computer at all. It's a new one I ordered several weeks ago and that I got friday. According to what I can see on the bill (cause it's written on it), the computer passed all tests so... gonna call a guy I know about it. I'll see what he can tell me. Maybe then a problem with drivers or something I'm honestly not sure of anything anymore.

*edit* I did forgot to mention what happens exactly. I can play 5 mins a game, then it stuck suddenly and 2 sec later I have a bluescreen saying that window had to shut down (the computer doesn't lemme the time to read more since it reboots like 5 sec later)
It seems to either be a software problem ( could be a virus ) or a memory problem.

It's not the fact its 64 bit. Rubbish.
02fxnmaurer
Member
+75|6761|Birmingham UK
i run everythin ..on 64bit ...patches are out there ..just get off ur ass and google them..
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6693|Finland

02fxnmaurer wrote:

i run everythin ..on 64bit ...patches are out there ..just get off ur ass and google them..
no need for patches... runs just fine without them...
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Richard2000
Banned
+39|6824|England
am running vista ultimate 64 bit and no problem here and cod4 works %100 for me and other games
geNius
..!.,
+144|6721|SoCal
Vista x64 works fine for games.
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Enzzenmachine
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+20|6624
ok I installed the old CoD 1 and CoDuo and they work perfectly (no window crash). I tried to install CoD2, I got a message like "This program has known compatibility problems, etc". Keep in mind that I didn't install internet on this computer yet (gonna do it though). I'll install BF2 soon too, according to what some of you said, it should work also so I'll see and hope it'll work. I must admit I'm wrong about vista 64bit being my problem... it doesn't sound logic anymore... what I gonna do tomorrow is reinstall CoD4, just to see what happens (I don't expect alot but who knows). I also gonna see what topal talked about.
On a side note, my gc is the Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX.
Thx for the help topal63 and others

Last edited by Enzzenmachine (2008-02-11 11:21:18)

topal63
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+533|6997

Richard2000 wrote:

am running vista ultimate 64 bit and no problem here and cod4 works %100 for me and other games
And this helps him out how? Why don't you offer something constructive instead of: "I am not having problems."
02fxnmaurer
Member
+75|6761|Birmingham UK
theres only one game i know ..which tbh must be impossible to run on 64bit vista and thts age of empires 3
topal63
. . .
+533|6997

Enzzenmachine wrote:

ok I installed the old CoD 1 and CoDuo and they work perfectly (no window crash). I tried to install CoD2, I got a message like "This program has known compability problems, etc". Keep in mind that I didn't install internet on this computer yet (gonna do it though). I'll install BF2 soon too, according to what some of you said, it should work also so I'll see and hope it'll work. I must admit I'm wrong about vista 64bit being my problem... it doesn't sound logic anymore... what I gonna do tomorrow is reinstall CoD4, just to see what happens (I don't expect alot but who knows). I also gonna see what topal talked about.
On a side note, my gc is the Nvidia Geforce 8800GTX.
Thx for the help topal63 and others
I should have keep notes on my Gears of War PC installation. Now that was a pain in the ass installation. Also, Battlefield Deluxe a pain in the ass, EA's fault for fucking that up, it didn't crash but you had to contact an EA tech to update your EA account to enable the Northern Strike expansion pack.

I am serious about the sound card problems... I've had sound cards crash more games than anything I can think of.

Also is your GTX overclocked at all? Is the FSB on your mainboard overclocked? These can cause instability issues (crashing) too.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6860|SE London

topal63 wrote:

I am serious about the sound card problems... I've had sound cards crash more games than anything I can think of.
So true!

Especially Creative ones.
Enzzenmachine
Member
+20|6624

topal63 wrote:

Also is your GTX overclocked at all? Is the FSB on your mainboard overclocked? These can cause instability issues (crashing) too.
they aren't overclocked for what I know but as my computer has been made by a computer assembler I can't be sure. I'll check that out. I'll update you as soon as I know more. thx again
jaymz9350
Member
+54|6856

topal63 wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:

am running vista ultimate 64 bit and no problem here and cod4 works %100 for me and other games
And this helps him out how? Why don't you offer something constructive instead of: "I am not having problems."
it's helpful because he thinks the problem is 64 bit vista which it is not.
aimless
Member
+166|6403|Texas
Running XP Pro x64, no problems at all. Only had one lockup, when I decided to open up Crysis (1280x1024) and iTunes on dual monitors

The only necessary fixes I need are the x64 drivers for video/sound cards. Everything else works right off install.

Last edited by aimless (2008-02-11 12:24:33)

jsnipy
...
+3,277|6801|...

I have it dual booted with zero issues running games (TF2, bf2) ... (there are other deal breakers atm).
Enzzenmachine
Member
+20|6624
here's what a friend of mine told me:

"cod and uo play fine because they are OPENGL games, its uses something different then the directx games (cod2/4 and BF2)

so.....there you go."

there is something I still don't understand. When I use "search" in order to find any DirectX files or docs about it on my computer, it says that there is nothing so then technically, according to this I don't have any DirectX installed. What is curious is that I installed cod and uo and it asks at the end if you wanna install directX 9 and I remember saying "yes" but it still didn't do it apparently. And finally one of cod requirements in order to get it working well is to get directX 9... so wth?
xGj
Official lame Crysis fanboy.
+84|6650|Netherlands tbh
Enzzenmachine.. I'm sorry but you still need to learn a lot about hard and software. DirectX is a default installed environment on Windows, it serves the apps and games that use it to draw their interface/graphics, Windows itself uses it too. Now stop blaming it on the software part, it's either you will have to reformat and reinstall or look for a problem in your hardware. Because none of this has to do with 32/64 bit, DirectX (well maybe you could try updating it: http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta … laylang=en thats only DX9, DX10 doesn't need to be updated but sometimes updating DX9 fixes issues), or Vista/XP. The problem, lies elsewhere. Let's find it.

p.s. I don't think CoD and UO run on OpenGL. Never looked into it though but hard to believe.

Last edited by xGj (2008-02-14 08:50:32)

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