HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6388|Washington DC
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/1 … 91455.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/politics … liticsNews

Gregarious George himself wrote:

"I must say, I'm a little envious," Bush said. "If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed."

"It must be exciting for you ... in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You're really making history, and thanks," Bush said.
I've never even slipped on combat boots and I'm certain that there's nothing romantic about fighting in a war against enemies who dress like the people you're trying to help. The whole "romantic war" went out with World War II.

Ya know, Bush could make a good diversion during dangerous missions.
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|7048|London, England
Didn't he do everything he could to avoid going into whatever war was going on back when he was younger, the Vietnam war I think it was
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6388|Washington DC

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Didn't he do everything he could to avoid going into whatever war was going on back when he was younger, the Vietnam war I think it was
Daddy pulled some strings I believe, and yes Vietnam.
SgtSlutter
Banned
+550|7065|Amsterdam, NY

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Didn't he do everything he could to avoid going into whatever war was going on back when he was younger, the Vietnam war I think it was
Wasnt romantic enough tbh
argo4
Stand and Deliver
+86|6360|United States
maybe we should send him to fight....that's what's wrong with this system: the leaders make decisions to send soldiers into battle without any idea what it's like
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7119|Calgary
Send the entire congress. FUCK.. put those load mouth pricks to work. Talk is cheap...........actually, fucken worthless.
Mitch
16 more years
+877|6952|South Florida

argo4 wrote:

that's what's wrong with this system: the leaders make decisions to send soldiers into battle without any idea what it's like
Thats whats wrong with some people in the u.s. they seem to forget that people join the military knowing they will fight for their leaders and country.
15 more years! 15 more years!
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6388|Washington DC

Mitch wrote:

argo4 wrote:

that's what's wrong with this system: the leaders make decisions to send soldiers into battle without any idea what it's like
Thats whats wrong with some people in the u.s. they seem to forget that people join the military knowing they will fight for their leaders and country.
I know where you're coming from Mitch... but really. I'm considering joining the military when I'm older, and I know full well I could go to war.

The thing is... World War II was fought to protect the world from the Nazi regime. Had the Allies surrendered, I really would bet that we'd all be speaking German and have posters of Hitler in our rooms.

What have OEF and OIF done? I recognize and in fact support Operation Enduring Freedom. When we went over there, people loved us. Then we started Iraq... I do think that Saddam was a horrid dictator and he deserved what he got. But we created a quagmire, with the three groups (Kurds, Sunnis, Shiites) killing each other because it's lawlessness. We took away forces from Afghanistan and now the Taliban is gaining power yet again in that place.

GS had something like this in his sig a few days ago, if I'm not mistaken: It's really easy for you to talk about starting wars when you aren't the one doing the killing.
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7256|Grapevine, TX
I often find myself thinking about signing back up for Active Duty. Romancing the idea of getting dirty, complaining about some good and not so good MREs, lacing up my suede boots, cleaning my rifle, and on and on and on... It's in my blood, spirit, and mind.

Just the same, I am happy with my family and friends at home. The truth is I did my time and unless there is a major War, Im done.

btw the Iraqi people still love the troops...
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7199|PNW

Superslim wrote:

Send the entire congress. FUCK.. put those load mouth pricks to work. Talk is cheap...........actually, fucken worthless.
Because we all know that it wasn't talk that established the Bill of Rights.
13rin
Member
+977|6906

HurricaИe wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/13/bush-envious-of-soldier_n_91455.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/politics … liticsNews

Gregarious George himself wrote:

"I must say, I'm a little envious," Bush said. "If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed."

"It must be exciting for you ... in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You're really making history, and thanks," Bush said.
I've never even slipped on combat boots and I'm certain that there's nothing romantic about fighting in a war against enemies who dress like the people you're trying to help. The whole "romantic war" went out with World War II.

Ya know, Bush could make a good diversion during dangerous missions.
Who are you to judge?  Bush has a least worn a uniform and flown fighter jets.  But i guess your good intentions of joining the service more than qualifies you....  But since you declared yourself judge here, tell me what part of WWII was romantic?  The concentration camps?  Flamethrowers in action captured in black and white photography?  Unreliable, inadequate supplied equipment?  Night bombings on British cities?  Literally, waves of men cut down by machine gun fire on beaches?  Japanese POW work camps?  Nuclear fallout?

Hitler was pretty evil and needed to be stopped.  Maybe someone was paying attention in history class and decided not to let it repeat itself.  Also, Hitler at least wore a uniform.  People who disguise themselves as your allies are perhaps your greatest enemy.   

By your logic Bush shouldn't find war romantic until entire continents and its people are ravaged by war.  Who is really the sicko here?
You crucify Bush due to your prejudice  towards him.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|7101|Canberra, AUS

HurricaИe wrote:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/03/13/bush-envious-of-soldier_n_91455.html

http://www.reuters.com/article/politics … liticsNews

Gregarious George himself wrote:

"I must say, I'm a little envious," Bush said. "If I were slightly younger and not employed here, I think it would be a fantastic experience to be on the front lines of helping this young democracy succeed."

"It must be exciting for you ... in some ways romantic, in some ways, you know, confronting danger. You're really making history, and thanks," Bush said.
I've never even slipped on combat boots and I'm certain that there's nothing romantic about fighting in a war against enemies who dress like the people you're trying to help. The whole "romantic war" went out with World War II.

Ya know, Bush could make a good diversion during dangerous missions.
WWI, you mean.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7187|San Antonio, Texas

argo4 wrote:

maybe we should send him to fight....that's what's wrong with this system: the leaders make decisions to send soldiers into battle without any idea what it's like
McCain, he knows what it's like...
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6610|Ireland
Go Hemp!
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

I'm sure he meant the idea of fighting for something you believe in. Contrary to general antiwar opinion some of our soldiers believe in what they are doing over there. Despite whatever agenda got them involved in the first place, many of them are there now protecting those who cannot protect themselves. It might not be romantic, but it damn sure is heroic.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
{M5}Sniper3
Typical white person.
+389|7187|San Antonio, Texas

Kmarion wrote:

I'm sure he meant the idea of fighting for something you believe in. Contrary to general antiwar opinion some of our soldiers believe in what they are doing over there. Despite whatever agenda got them involved in the first place, many of them are there now protecting those who cannot protect themselves. It might not be romantic, but it damn sure is heroic.
I agree and nicely put.

Last edited by {M5}Sniper3 (2008-03-14 17:52:08)

Braddock
Agitator
+916|6717|Éire
Romance, heroism, ideology ....at the end of the day it's just blood and guts and for every person who admires you for what you do there is another who wants to murder you for it. You should only have to pull on the boots and helmet for your own family and nation, not some bullshit war half the world away.

I'm sure many Nazis thought it was romantic that they were fulfilling some great Aryan vision and strengthening the gene pool, subjectivity is a hell of a thing!

Last edited by Braddock (2008-03-14 19:17:47)

GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7071
War was never romantic.  It has always been smelly, sweaty and chaotic.
(T)eflon(S)hadow
R.I.P. Neda
+456|7256|Grapevine, TX

Braddock wrote:

Romance, heroism, ideology ....at the end of the day it's just blood and guts and for every person who admires you for what you do there is another who wants to murder you for it.
pretty true

Braddock wrote:

You should only have to pull on the boots and helmet for your own family and nation, not some bullshit war half the world away.
Did you forget about WWII? I know you must be speaking about OIF, but just as you just said, "For every person that believes in it, there is one that dosen't."
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7028|132 and Bush

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

War was never romantic.  It has always been smelly, sweaty and chaotic.
No one ever claimed Romance to be practical and organized. In fact it almost never is.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
deeznutz1245
Connecticut: our chimps are stealin yo' faces.
+483|6920|Connecticut

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

complaining about some good and not so good MREs, .................
Potatoes o' rotten= not so good
Chili Mac w/ crackers & jalapeno cheese= excellent

both= constipation
Malloy must go
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6945|Montucky

deeznutz1245 wrote:

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

complaining about some good and not so good MREs, .................
Potatoes o' rotten= not so good
Chili Mac w/ crackers & jalapeno cheese= excellent

both= constipation
4 Fingers of death.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7071
thats the frankfurters right? they dont make those any more.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6945|Montucky

(T)eflon(S)hadow wrote:

I often find myself thinking about signing back up for Active Duty. Romancing the idea of getting dirty, complaining about some good and not so good MREs, lacing up my suede boots, cleaning my rifle, and on and on and on... It's in my blood, spirit, and mind.

Just the same, I am happy with my family and friends at home. The truth is I did my time and unless there is a major War, Im done.

btw the Iraqi people still love the troops...
Same here, I've also been debating about the Reserves since the unit close to where I live went from Recon (fuck that business) to the Anti Terrorism Battalion
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6945|Montucky

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

thats the frankfurters right? they dont make those any more.
yeah.  Fuck my stomach hurts just thinking about them

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