Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6812|Long Island, New York
Well, it's that time again. Spring's rolling around and I'll be getting 1) a better job 2) birthday money...oorah.

Here's what I'm thinking:

EVGA 790i Ultra SLi - $350
Core 2 Quad Q9450 - $316 (not out yet)
Patriot Viper DDR3-1333 - $380
EVGA 9800 GX2 - $599

And before someone comes in with a "omg ur spoiled and im immature cuz im gay looool" comment, I'm paying for ALL of this myself. I consider myself an enthusiast and I wouldn't consider myself as one if I didn't pay for atleast more than half. kthx. But, now. Questions.

Is DDR3 worth it? Should I just get a 780i and 4 gigs of DDR2-1066? Should I just stick with a dual-core? Any tips are greatly appreciated.

Money's not really an issue, but I'd always like to save.
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6844|Portland, OR, USA
You plan on going to college? Or do you not have to pay for that.  That's a lot of money to be dropping on something that'll be worth hundreds of dollars less a few months down the road...

If you've got the the money though, go for it.  Though DDR3 is still kinda not worth it in my opinion, at least at this point.
ReDevilJR
Member
+106|6625
DDR3 = Fail IMO. Slightly lower voltages and ridiculously higher latencies are given from them.
DDR2 = 1066MHz /win. (4GB minimal)

Awesome choice on graphics! Upgrading myself to that over the summer..

Quad - I personally don't think it's worth it, but if you want to do it right (And OC it well) Get the one with the highest multiplier = highest overclock.

Mobo, don't know too much about, I personally have a P-35 and I'm content with it. I don't think SLI capabilities are necessary.
']['error
Banned
+630|6918|The Netherlands
Well the DDR3 is overpriced IMO, just get 4 gigs of 1066/1333 MHz ram. Good choice on the motherboard.
Quadcore is unnecesairy for gaming, get an E8400 instead, but if you really want one: buy it.

The 9800GX2 is a huge waste of money, it only scores like a little better than the 3870X2, that costs ~ $420, while the 9800gx2 costs 600.

Here in the netherlands you can get 2 x 3870x2 for 660 euro( €330 per piece), while one 9800gx2 alone costs 600

So i'd say get an x38/x48 motherboard(nvida chipset + ATI card = ???? )  + one or two 3870x2's  + 4 gigs of 1066 DDR2 ram = winzor.
RDMC
Enemy Wheelbarrow Spotted..!!
+736|6839|Area 51

']['error wrote:

Well the DDR3 is overpriced IMO, just get 4 gigs of 1066/1333 MHz ram. Good choice on the motherboard.
Quadcore is unnecesairy for gaming, get an E8400 instead, but if you really want one: buy it.

The 9800GX2 is a huge waste of money, it only scores like a little better than the 3870X2, that costs ~ $420, while the 9800gx2 costs 600.

Here in the netherlands you can get 2 x 3870x2 for 660 euro( €330 per piece), while one 9800gx2 alone costs 600

So i'd say get an x38/x48 motherboard(nvida chipset + ATI card = ???? )  + one or two 3870x2's  + 4 gigs of 1066 DDR2 ram = winzor.
If you've read his other thread, you'd know he's determined to get the 9800GX2 even though it is seriously overpriced. I do agree with Terror, get an E8400, whilst Quad Cores are more future proof dual cores are better for gaming at the moment.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6812|Long Island, New York

RDMC wrote:

']['error wrote:

Well the DDR3 is overpriced IMO, just get 4 gigs of 1066/1333 MHz ram. Good choice on the motherboard.
Quadcore is unnecesairy for gaming, get an E8400 instead, but if you really want one: buy it.

The 9800GX2 is a huge waste of money, it only scores like a little better than the 3870X2, that costs ~ $420, while the 9800gx2 costs 600.

Here in the netherlands you can get 2 x 3870x2 for 660 euro( €330 per piece), while one 9800gx2 alone costs 600

So i'd say get an x38/x48 motherboard(nvida chipset + ATI card = ???? )  + one or two 3870x2's  + 4 gigs of 1066 DDR2 ram = winzor.
If you've read his other thread, you'd know he's determined to get the 9800GX2 even though it is seriously overpriced. I do agree with Terror, get an E8400, whilst Quad Cores are more future proof dual cores are better for gaming at the moment.
No, I'm open to discussion on why I shouldn't. Trust me, I'm very heavily influenced if someone's got facts that can back up their statements.
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6689|Finland

Poseidon wrote:

RDMC wrote:

']['error wrote:

Well the DDR3 is overpriced IMO, just get 4 gigs of 1066/1333 MHz ram. Good choice on the motherboard.
Quadcore is unnecesairy for gaming, get an E8400 instead, but if you really want one: buy it.

The 9800GX2 is a huge waste of money, it only scores like a little better than the 3870X2, that costs ~ $420, while the 9800gx2 costs 600.

Here in the netherlands you can get 2 x 3870x2 for 660 euro( €330 per piece), while one 9800gx2 alone costs 600

So i'd say get an x38/x48 motherboard(nvida chipset + ATI card = ???? )  + one or two 3870x2's  + 4 gigs of 1066 DDR2 ram = winzor.
If you've read his other thread, you'd know he's determined to get the 9800GX2 even though it is seriously overpriced. I do agree with Terror, get an E8400, whilst Quad Cores are more future proof dual cores are better for gaming at the moment.
No, I'm open to discussion on why I shouldn't. Trust me, I'm very heavily influenced if someone's got facts that can back up their statements.
Damn I wish I bough a Q6600 G0 instead of my E6750 in the first place. Now I need to change it to Q6600. Trust me Poseidon, you are making a good deal buying the quad core instead of E8400. At least we can pwn in 3dmark06, lol. And have fun with 9800GX2. I'm sure it is one hell of gfx card. I'm going the ATi way with tri-fire.

edit: quad cores are the win in gaming if you OC them. It is the faster stock clocks that make the E8400 faster in games.

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-03-19 05:22:28)

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specialistx2324
hahahahahhaa
+244|6963|arica harbour

Poseidon wrote:

Well, it's that time again. Spring's rolling around and I'll be getting 1) a better job 2) birthday money...oorah.

Here's what I'm thinking:

EVGA 790i Ultra SLi - $350
Core 2 Quad Q9450 - $316 (not out yet)
Patriot Viper DDR3-1333 - $380
EVGA 9800 GX2 - $599

And before someone comes in with a "omg ur spoiled and im immature cuz im gay looool" comment, I'm paying for ALL of this myself. I consider myself an enthusiast and I wouldn't consider myself as one if I didn't pay for atleast more than half. kthx. But, now. Questions.

Is DDR3 worth it? Should I just get a 780i and 4 gigs of DDR2-1066? Should I just stick with a dual-core? Any tips are greatly appreciated.

Money's not really an issue, but I'd always like to save.
if you want to save. dont waste your money on computer upgrades just for the sake of a few $50.00 games. i was in that particular business only to loose more money. if you want to save money get a console. tell me something, are you going to blow more money 2 years from now when your rig goes obsolete?  just a thought m8
Freezer7Pro
I don't come here a lot anymore.
+1,447|6472|Winland

https://firingsquad.com/hardware/nvidia_geforce_9800_gx2_performance_preview/images/obl1280.gif

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6814134037

I see a certain gain in dual GTS'...
The idea of any hi-fi system is to reproduce the source material as faithfully as possible, and to deliberately add distortion to everything you hear (due to amplifier deficiencies) because it sounds 'nice' is simply not high fidelity. If that is what you want to hear then there is no problem with that, but by adding so much additional material (by way of harmonics and intermodulation) you have a tailored sound system, not a hi-fi. - Rod Elliot, ESP
GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6689|Finland

not a big surprise since GTS has higher clocks...
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']['error
Banned
+630|6918|The Netherlands

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

not a big surprise since GTS has higher clocks...
single GX2 = $600
Dual GTS = $500 + it beats a single GX2
DUnlimited
got any popo lolo intersting?
+1,160|6738|cuntshitlake

Oblivion sure utilizes Dual gpus well

That's a straight 100% increase in performance.
main battle tank karthus medikopter 117 megamegapowershot gg
killinzero1
Member
+14|6662
honestly dude, as other people are saying bout ddr3 its a total waste. i just build my new rig and i have

Q6600 OCed @3.6 stable
4gb of corsair xms2 memory
evga 780i mobo
evga 8800gt
tuniq tower 120

and i am very pleased in this build. Quad Core is worth the money and you stay at the head of the game. soo 780i FTW

Last edited by killinzero1 (2008-03-19 09:40:11)

xGj
Official lame Crysis fanboy.
+84|6646|Netherlands tbh

RDMC wrote:

']['error wrote:

Well the DDR3 is overpriced IMO, just get 4 gigs of 1066/1333 MHz ram. Good choice on the motherboard.
Quadcore is unnecesairy for gaming, get an E8400 instead, but if you really want one: buy it.

The 9800GX2 is a huge waste of money, it only scores like a little better than the 3870X2, that costs ~ $420, while the 9800gx2 costs 600.

Here in the netherlands you can get 2 x 3870x2 for 660 euro( €330 per piece), while one 9800gx2 alone costs 600

So i'd say get an x38/x48 motherboard(nvida chipset + ATI card = ???? )  + one or two 3870x2's  + 4 gigs of 1066 DDR2 ram = winzor.
If you've read his other thread, you'd know he's determined to get the 9800GX2 even though it is seriously overpriced. I do agree with Terror, get an E8400, whilst Quad Cores are more future proof dual cores are better for gaming at the moment.
No, sorry to wake you up but an 9800GX2 costs €500 here, that's a little more than a single 3870X2, and a lot less than dual 3870X2 while the performance blasts you away.
I'm gonna upgrade to the 9800GX2 from an 8800GTX these days anyway. It's like an awesome card. And get a SLi motherboard, seriously what if you want to SLi/Quad-SLi later, you'll slap yourself to the forehead you didn't take that awesome 790i. I have a P35 myself, and would have wanted a SLi mobo but now I don't have enough money/too lazy to get one. Go with the setup you picked, it's great, just DDR2 1066/1333 4GB, DDR3 = fail atm.
-edit-
Was talking to terror not you RDMC btw.

Last edited by xGj (2008-03-19 09:57:31)

GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6689|Finland

price of 9800GX2 is just ridiculous here... 570€ 9800GX2 vs 315€ HD3870 X2...

EDIT: 790i is DDR3 btw...

Last edited by GC_PaNzerFIN (2008-03-19 10:01:59)

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GC_PaNzerFIN
Work and study @ Technical Uni
+528|6689|Finland

and Poseidon, make sure your PSU's 8-pin connector fits the 9800GX2.

Like the Guru3D described the issue: "has a very anal 8-pin power connector"
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']['error
Banned
+630|6918|The Netherlands

xGj wrote:

RDMC wrote:

']['error wrote:

Well the DDR3 is overpriced IMO, just get 4 gigs of 1066/1333 MHz ram. Good choice on the motherboard.
Quadcore is unnecesairy for gaming, get an E8400 instead, but if you really want one: buy it.

The 9800GX2 is a huge waste of money, it only scores like a little better than the 3870X2, that costs ~ $420, while the 9800gx2 costs 600.

Here in the netherlands you can get 2 x 3870x2 for 660 euro( €330 per piece), while one 9800gx2 alone costs 600

So i'd say get an x38/x48 motherboard(nvida chipset + ATI card = ???? )  + one or two 3870x2's  + 4 gigs of 1066 DDR2 ram = winzor.
If you've read his other thread, you'd know he's determined to get the 9800GX2 even though it is seriously overpriced. I do agree with Terror, get an E8400, whilst Quad Cores are more future proof dual cores are better for gaming at the moment.
No, sorry to wake you up but an 9800GX2 costs €500 here, that's a little more than a single 3870X2, and a lot less than dual 3870X2 while the performance blasts you away.
I'm gonna upgrade to the 9800GX2 from an 8800GTX these days anyway. It's like an awesome card. And get a SLi motherboard, seriously what if you want to SLi/Quad-SLi later, you'll slap yourself to the forehead you didn't take that awesome 790i. I have a P35 myself, and would have wanted a SLi mobo but now I don't have enough money/too lazy to get one. Go with the setup you picked, it's great, just DDR2 1066/1333 4GB, DDR3 = fail atm.
-edit-
Was talking to terror not you RDMC btw.
Zomg €475
xGj
Official lame Crysis fanboy.
+84|6646|Netherlands tbh

']['error wrote:

xGj wrote:

RDMC wrote:


If you've read his other thread, you'd know he's determined to get the 9800GX2 even though it is seriously overpriced. I do agree with Terror, get an E8400, whilst Quad Cores are more future proof dual cores are better for gaming at the moment.
No, sorry to wake you up but an 9800GX2 costs €500 here, that's a little more than a single 3870X2, and a lot less than dual 3870X2 while the performance blasts you away.
I'm gonna upgrade to the 9800GX2 from an 8800GTX these days anyway. It's like an awesome card. And get a SLi motherboard, seriously what if you want to SLi/Quad-SLi later, you'll slap yourself to the forehead you didn't take that awesome 790i. I have a P35 myself, and would have wanted a SLi mobo but now I don't have enough money/too lazy to get one. Go with the setup you picked, it's great, just DDR2 1066/1333 4GB, DDR3 = fail atm.
-edit-
Was talking to terror not you RDMC btw.
Zomg €475
Toldcha Advice price is €500, MSI gets under it though. I'll just wait for an eVGA or XFX version (preferably the first )
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6812|Long Island, New York

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

and Poseidon, make sure your PSU's 8-pin connector fits the 9800GX2.

Like the Guru3D described the issue: "has a very anal 8-pin power connector"
Well, I have a Thermaltake Toughpower 750w right now. I'm pretty sure my 8800 GTX (which I'm selling) requires an 8 pin connector?

I dunno.
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|6824|UK

']['error wrote:

GC_PaNzerFIN wrote:

not a big surprise since GTS has higher clocks...
single GX2 = $600
Dual GTS = $500 + it beats a single GX2
N that basically kills the 9800GX2 argument lol.  Less you absolutley HAVE to go with an intel board.  If the 9800GTX is a 8800GTS, hell, you could Tri SLI the 9800GTX for about the same money as that dam GX2.

Martyn
Volatile
Member
+252|6979|Sextupling in Empire

Dude, get the dual GTS' instead of the GX2. The minimal gains in performance do not warrant the $600 price tag. In fact the only reason I would see to get the GX2 is to get better frames in Crysis(as the 8800gts G92 handles every other game with ease) but it fails even there as the frames drop to shit when you turn on AA.

At least wait a few weeks to see how the 9800gtx performs, as the rumors are that it will kick ass in an SLI configuration.

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