Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland
They have lowered the limit so much now that you are screwed if you use cough syrup and drive.

People are better off smoking weed.  No DUI B.S. and a slap on the wrist if caught with it. 

Oh wait, I'm against Pot.
CTD-CaptainBuck
BLEEDING BLUE
+71|7194|Tenn
1 solution. DONT TAKE THE BREATHALYZER. if u dont take the breathalyzer you can fight it and the fines will be much lower and you may not lose your license for as long... i copped my DUI a long time ago and ive been severly fucked as far as anything goes... restricted license and outrageouslly high fines.. (none of u uppity fuckers give me any shit) ive paid my dues, the shit is ridiculous in the end of it all im going to be $3-4000 in the hole because i dropped my lighter and got pulled over cuz i swerved a bit.

but if u have already gotten whammied. bad news, u will lose your job and you will be fucked because employers have no sympathy for dui/dwi.

UNLESS you get a good lawyer, dont do like i did and hire a shitty lawyer cuz he was recommended. find a DUI Lawyer. he will charge the piss out of you but in the long run you will save way over a grand... your case is smal tho you may be able to fight it.. hide it from your employer and try to get it taken care of before they find out
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina

Lotta_Drool wrote:

They have lowered the limit so much now that you are screwed if you use cough syrup and drive.

People are better off smoking weed.  No DUI B.S. and a slap on the wrist if caught with it. 

Oh wait, I'm against Pot.
LOL...  good points...
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|7122|NJ
The thing about life is we all end up in the same place.. Mistakes happen, if it wasn't a car accident with a drunk driver it might have just been a car accident with a sober one.. Dude life sucks, nothing perfect.

Sorry for your loss, but it's life.. If we cried about everything we'd be doing nothing..

P.S. I'm sure you've thrown out uneaten food even though there's million of people starving in this world.

Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2008-03-31 15:57:34)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6955|Global Command

Mek-Izzle wrote:

Sure, drink and drive if you want. I'll admit, I've done it once in a while ...

Just don't get caught
Or crash
Or kill anyone..
Only expert drivers should drink and drive.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7108|Disaster Free Zone
Don't know what the law in Austria is, but in Australia breathalysers are not considered accurate. As such if you are found to be over the limit, you have 2 choices.
1) Take the ticket, punishment and be on your way.
2) Insist on an accurate blood test in which case they need to take you to the police station, get a blood sample and analyse it, which could take hours, but may also save you from a loss of licence.

This really isn't going to help you now, but maybe for future reference.

IRONCHEF wrote:

jord wrote:

IRONCHEF wrote:

If I had it my way, I'd require DUI charges be escalated to "ATTEMPTED VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER."  Die in fire you worthless, selfish, incompetent piece of shit!

Yes, I do feel that way about drunk drivers.  Drunk drivers = child abusers.
Did you just read the title and get all excited and scroll down to the message field shaking with excitement that you can finally vent some anger?

He woke up the day after. I'll repeat that. The day after drinking. He was stopped for whatever reason and was 8 1000's over the limit...
No, read it.  Still drove drunk (drunk driving = impaired...still able to kill people through gross negligence).  Try losing someone to a drunk driver who "made a mistake" and see how it feels..see if you take any and every opportunity to "vent some anger."
The level you are impaired differs from person to person, now consider the differing 'laws' in each country on what is an acceptable BAC and he might have been a child abuser in one country but not in another. Laws are a human made system and are therefore susceptible to mistakes, persecuting someone on the basis that the laws they infringed are infallible is as ignorant as religion.

To jord, .008 is actually a substantial amount. In Aus, the limit is .05, so .058 is 16% over the limit (a lot more then it sounds).

CTD-CaptainBuck wrote:

1 solution. DONT TAKE THE BREATHALYZER.
You could, but they would arrest and hold you, get a warrant to take a blood sample and then you would be charged with both the DUI and some kind of resisting arrest (or something I don't know what it would be called).
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6426|The Mitten

IRONCHEF wrote:

If I had it my way, I'd require DUI charges be escalated to "ATTEMPTED VEHICULAR MANSLAUGHTER."  Die in fire you worthless, selfish, incompetent piece of shit!

Yes, I do feel that way about drunk drivers.  Drunk drivers = child abusers.
Why don't you take it a step further and say that everybody who drives should be charged with vehicular manslaughter? You don't need to be drunk to kill someone with a car.

DrunkFace wrote:

The level you are impaired differs from person to person, now consider the differing 'laws' in each country on what is an acceptable BAC... Laws are a human made system and are therefore susceptible to mistakes...
Oh, and good generization, there, internet tough guy.
And maef: Try calling your boss, if you haven't, and explain the whole situation.
EE (hats
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6556|North Tonawanda, NY

Morpheus1229 wrote:

Why don't you take it a step further and say that everybody who drives should be charged with vehicular manslaughter? You don't need to be drunk to kill someone with a car.
Driving while intoxicated is plainly irresponsible and dangerous to everyone else on the road.  One cannot contest that fact.
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6750|New Haven, CT

CTD-CaptainBuck wrote:

1 solution. DONT TAKE THE BREATHALYZER. if u dont take the breathalyzer you can fight it and the fines will be much lower and you may not lose your license for as long... i copped my DUI a long time ago and ive been severly fucked as far as anything goes... restricted license and outrageouslly high fines.. (none of u uppity fuckers give me any shit) ive paid my dues, the shit is ridiculous in the end of it all im going to be $3-4000 in the hole because i dropped my lighter and got pulled over cuz i swerved a bit.

but if u have already gotten whammied. bad news, u will lose your job and you will be fucked because employers have no sympathy for dui/dwi.

UNLESS you get a good lawyer, dont do like i did and hire a shitty lawyer cuz he was recommended. find a DUI Lawyer. he will charge the piss out of you but in the long run you will save way over a grand... your case is smal tho you may be able to fight it.. hide it from your employer and try to get it taken care of before they find out
I thought you give up the right to not take a Breathalyzer when you get your license. This is me trying to remember from the Driver's Ed class I didn't pay attention in, so don't get mad at me for being wrong.
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6426|The Mitten

SenorToenails wrote:

Morpheus1229 wrote:

Why don't you take it a step further and say that everybody who drives should be charged with vehicular manslaughter? You don't need to be drunk to kill someone with a car.
Driving while intoxicated is plainly irresponsible and dangerous to everyone else on the road.  One cannot contest that fact.
I agree that driving while impared is a bad idea, but driving while some stupid machine says you drank too much is another. Some people do quite well with more than normal amounts of alcohol in their system.
EE (hats
nukchebi0
Пушкин, наше всё
+387|6750|New Haven, CT

Morpheus1229 wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Morpheus1229 wrote:

Why don't you take it a step further and say that everybody who drives should be charged with vehicular manslaughter? You don't need to be drunk to kill someone with a car.
Driving while intoxicated is plainly irresponsible and dangerous to everyone else on the road.  One cannot contest that fact.
I agree that driving while impared is a bad idea, but driving while some stupid machine says you drank too much is another. Some people do quite well with more than normal amounts of alcohol in their system.
The machine isn't inaccurate to the degree that you are not impaired in some manner while getting a drunk reading.
Morpheus
This shit still going?
+508|6426|The Mitten

nukchebi0 wrote:

Morpheus1229 wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Driving while intoxicated is plainly irresponsible and dangerous to everyone else on the road.  One cannot contest that fact.
I agree that driving while impared is a bad idea, but driving while some stupid machine says you drank too much is another. Some people do quite well with more than normal amounts of alcohol in their system.
The machine isn't inaccurate to the degree that you are not impaired in some manner while getting a drunk reading.
umm.... wat?

Eating poppy seeds is similar to taking morphine, so why not give people who eat poppy seeds DUIs? Just because some machines says something, it isn't always true.




edit
search for "Can poppy seeds make you fail a drug test?" turned up these on google:
http://www.snopes.com/medical/drugs/poppyseed.asp
http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a5_116.html
http://www.a1b2c3.com/drugs/test2.htm
http://dsc.discovery.com/fansites/mythb … lower.html
http://www.associatedcontent.com/articl … _lost.html
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/01/11/health/11real.html

Last edited by Morpheus1229 (2008-04-01 23:35:42)

EE (hats
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6556|North Tonawanda, NY

Morpheus1229 wrote:

I agree that driving while impared is a bad idea, but driving while some stupid machine says you drank too much is another. Some people do quite well with more than normal amounts of alcohol in their system.
Don't tell me that you are one of those people.  The people who think they can drive just fine while completely lit. 

I know that some people can handle alcohol differently, but in order to make the roads safe, you need to set the lower bound of intoxication to be what covers the greatest portion of the population.  That means .08 or .1 or whatever the limit is.  That's the law, that's what we all have to deal with.  The machine only determines how much alcohol is in your blood, and the state tells you if you are intoxicated.  Don't drink and drive if you don't like the consequences.

And regarding the poppy seeds example, there is no field test for opiate intoxication.  Alcohol is much easier to detect and far more common.
topthrill05
Member
+125|7004|Rochester NY USA
Your comparing Poppy seeds of which don't impair you but still come up as positive on a drug test to the amount of alcohol someone can consume to be impaired.

Two totally different things, your logic simply doesn't make sense.
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7108|Disaster Free Zone

Morpheus1229 wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

The level you are impaired differs from person to person, now consider the differing 'laws' in each country on what is an acceptable BAC... Laws are a human made system and are therefore susceptible to mistakes...
Oh, and good generization, there, internet tough guy.
I'm generalising? I'm not the one who claimed all DUIs are equivalent to child abusers.

Now think about what I said logically. I'll even give you some help. Because laws are not standardised (or 'correct'). I can drive in the US with a BAC of 0.07 and it is totally legal and be an ordinary person. But in Japan I could have a BAC less then half that and be breaking the law and according to IRONCHEF be the same as a child abuser, even though I was less impaired.

And what are you if you drive tired? Studies have shown that driving while tired impairs your judgement and reactions times equal to if not more so then being slightly over the limit. Yet there are no laws against driving while tired.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2008-04-02 23:15:38)

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