lowing
Banned
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S.Lythberg wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

lowing wrote:


Yeah, finding shit like this is such a rarity I can not believe he found it in the first place He musta scowered for hours to bring this out.
Not when you have sites like Islam Watch (the source for this) on your favourites.
Isn't Islam watch run by Muslims?

edit: Yes it is

now all I need is WBC watch run by other baptists.
Yeah, I have pretty much heard everything now. A site run by Muslims that say Islam is violent and intolerant then PROVE it through litersally countless articles is being dismissed by non-Muslims as garbage and biased not worthy of consideration.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina
Cam, is there something wrong with your connection?  You've been dual posting...
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,072|7198|PNW

April Fools on the internet fails. Especially on tech sites. Every year they think it's unique and funny to twist some spec slightly askew and then point at people and laugh at them for having the gall to actually believe any word of it. And it doesn't go away...much of it sticks around, confusing the shit out of people for months.

But something like "Hillary Likens Herself to Jesus" would be funny...

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2008-04-01 16:32:13)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7184|Argentina
Oh, what a surprise, another Islamophobe thread.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7058|949

At a "Reclaiming America for Christ" conference in February, 2005, Kennedy said:

"Our job is to reclaim America for Christ, whatever the cost. As the vice regents of God, we are to exercise godly dominion and influence over our neighborhoods, our schools, our government, our literature and arts, our sports arenas, our entertainment media, our news media, our scientific endeavors -- in short, over every aspect and institution of human society.
http://www.theocracywatch.org/

Yeah, only Muslims.  I wonder why theocracywatch.com isn't referenced by FOXNEWS all the time?  Muppets like you certainly would be interested, I'm sure.

Christianity transcends the political order and cannot be subordinated to the political order.
Apparently Conservative Christian judges hate us (at least our constitution) for our freedom too.

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-04-01 17:25:32)

konfusion
mostly afk
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index … ttack1.jpg

Palestinian Muslims celebrate the cold-blooded murder
of eight Jewish seminary students in the name of their god.

I wonder if that is an Irishman playing the bagpipes.
How the fuck can you blame Palestinians for wanting the death of their oppressors - they guys who made 75% of Palestine HOMELESS when they were created? Honestly, sometimes I wonder how you even manage to turn a computer on.

-konfusion
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6837|'Murka

konfusion wrote:

Lotta_Drool wrote:

http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/index … ttack1.jpg

Palestinian Muslims celebrate the cold-blooded murder
of eight Jewish seminary students in the name of their god.

I wonder if that is an Irishman playing the bagpipes.
How the fuck can you blame Palestinians for wanting the death of their oppressors - they guys who made 75% of Palestine HOMELESS when they were created? Honestly, sometimes I wonder how you even manage to turn a computer on.

-konfusion
Then shouldn't the Palestinians take their anger out on 1) the UN; 2) the UK; 3) their Arab brothers who have done the square root of fuckall to help them over the years?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6976|CH/BR - in UK

FEOS wrote:

Then shouldn't the Palestinians take their anger out on 1) the UN; 2) the UK; 3) their Arab brothers who have done the square root of fuckall to help them over the years?
Yup - but it's much easier to take it out on people who are closer for them.
For that matter, Israelis are still bulldozing in their territory, and making their country smaller. Furthermore, I'm not sure how educated people can get in Palestine, considering their poverty (which is not being improved with the conflicts going on). Lastly - they see Israelis killing their people. What you have in front of your eyes usually makes you react more than what is written in history books.

-konfusion
M.O.A.B
'Light 'em up!'
+1,220|6649|Escea

sergeriver wrote:

Oh, what a surprise, another Islamophobe thread.
Half way to beating the Israelphobe ones tbh
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland

konfusion wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Then shouldn't the Palestinians take their anger out on 1) the UN; 2) the UK; 3) their Arab brothers who have done the square root of fuckall to help them over the years?
Yup - but it's much easier to take it out on people who are closer for them.
For that matter, Israelis are still bulldozing in their territory, and making their country smaller. Furthermore, I'm not sure how educated people can get in Palestine, considering their poverty (which is not being improved with the conflicts going on). Lastly - they see Israelis killing their people. What you have in front of your eyes usually makes you react more than what is written in history books.

-konfusion
Yeah, however you want to justify Islamic terrorism.  Sorry to hear you still believe it has something to do with land, here's your sign.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7058|949

lowing wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Not when you have sites like Islam Watch (the source for this) on your favourites.
Isn't Islam watch run by Muslims?

edit: Yes it is

now all I need is WBC watch run by other baptists.
Yeah, I have pretty much heard everything now. A site run by Muslims that say Islam is violent and intolerant then PROVE it through litersally countless articles is being dismissed by non-Muslims as garbage and biased not worthy of consideration.
Who are we?
We are a group of Muslim apostates who have left Islam out of our own conviction
http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

Wow, that wasn't very hard.
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:


Isn't Islam watch run by Muslims?

edit: Yes it is

now all I need is WBC watch run by other baptists.
Yeah, I have pretty much heard everything now. A site run by Muslims that say Islam is violent and intolerant then PROVE it through litersally countless articles is being dismissed by non-Muslims as garbage and biased not worthy of consideration.
Who are we?
We are a group of Muslim apostates who have left Islam out of our own conviction
http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

Wow, that wasn't very hard.
It is for a person with your limited reading ability.

From the article in bold at top wrote:

Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims
ghettoperson
Member
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Turquoise wrote:

Cam, is there something wrong with your connection?  You've been dual posting...
Nah BF2s is fucked at the moment. I've seen a lot of quad-posts.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7058|949

Lotta_Drool wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:

Yeah, I have pretty much heard everything now. A site run by Muslims that say Islam is violent and intolerant then PROVE it through litersally countless articles is being dismissed by non-Muslims as garbage and biased not worthy of consideration.
Who are we?
We are a group of Muslim apostates who have left Islam out of our own conviction
http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

Wow, that wasn't very hard.
It is for a person with your limited reading ability.

From the article in bold at top wrote:

Islam Under Scrutiny by Ex-Muslims
Thank you for reinforcing my point.

So its a site run by ex-Muslims, not Muslims.

So will you take my word on Catholic thought and ideology as truth, seeing as I went to CCD for 12 years, Catholic High School, was baptized, received first communion, and was confirmed as a Catholic, even though now I'm not?

Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2008-04-02 13:10:59)

Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland
^^^^  Sorry, I am the one with the limited reading ability.  DOH. 

< walks away in shame >
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:


Isn't Islam watch run by Muslims?

edit: Yes it is

now all I need is WBC watch run by other baptists.
Yeah, I have pretty much heard everything now. A site run by Muslims that say Islam is violent and intolerant then PROVE it through litersally countless articles is being dismissed by non-Muslims as garbage and biased not worthy of consideration.
Who are we?
We are a group of Muslim apostates who have left Islam out of our own conviction
http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

Wow, that wasn't very hard.
yeah and?? Because they sawe Islam for what it was and LEFT it all of a sudden means they do not know what they are talking about??
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina
I'd actually argue that people who have been exposed to a religion and then left it tend to be the most rational in assessing the said religion because they are no longer part of it.  Once you can attain a 3rd person perspective on something, you can more rationally analyze something.

Sure, some of these people probably have an axe to grind against Islam, but then again, it's kind of hard not to have one when you look at how unruly much of the Islamic World is at the moment.

Just today, it's become known that the Indonesian government has banned Fitna, and they are threatening to ban youtube from their country.  I'd say that's pretty solid proof that Muslims aren't very cognizant in understanding or tolerating criticism.  They need to lighten up some.

Unfortunately, it's also proof that fanaticism seems to be rampant in Islam outside of the Middle East just as it is within it.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6717|Éire

lowing wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Not when you have sites like Islam Watch (the source for this) on your favourites.
Isn't Islam watch run by Muslims?

edit: Yes it is

now all I need is WBC watch run by other baptists.
Yeah, I have pretty much heard everything now. A site run by Muslims that say Islam is violent and intolerant then PROVE it through litersally countless articles is being dismissed by non-Muslims as garbage and biased not worthy of consideration.
This annoys me. I can't speak for every 'librul' here but I have acknowledged on countless occasions that horrific tales from the Muslim world do in fact exist and this islam-watch site reflects some of these tales... what I have always stressed is that these stories do not reflect the full story of what Islam is.

I could very easily set up a website that documents American torture, unlawful killings in warzones, dropping of napalm on little girls, US soldiers raping young Vietnamese girls, US military blowing the limbs of Iraqi children, the US aiding and abetting terrorist murderers like the Cuban Possada Carriles, the support and installation of dictators like Saddam Hussein and the terrorist Osama Bin Laden... now tell me would that site be a balanced portrait of what America is?

Last edited by Braddock (2008-04-02 17:24:19)

Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina

Braddock wrote:

This annoys me. I can't speak for every 'librul' here but I have acknowledged on countless occasions that horrific tales from the Muslim world do in fact exist and this islam-watch site reflects some of these tales... what I have always stressed is that these stories do not reflect the full story of what Islam is.

I could very easily set up a website that documents American torture, unlawful killings in warzones, dropping of napalm on little girls, US soldiers raping young Vietnamese girls, US military blowing the limbs of Iraqi children, the US aiding and abetting terrorist murderers like the Cuban Possada Carriles, the support and installation of dictators like Saddam Hussein and the terrorist Osama Bin Laden... now tell me would that site be balanced portrait of what America is?
I can see where you're coming from, but the next question should be: do most Islamic majority countries participate in more brutality or does the U.S.?
CameronPoe
Member
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Turquoise wrote:

fanaticism seems to be rampant in Islam outside of the Middle East
lol. Yeah, you can't move for the fanatacists around here...

Last edited by CameronPoe (2008-04-02 17:25:50)

konfusion
mostly afk
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Lotta_Drool wrote:

Yeah, however you want to justify Islamic terrorism.  Sorry to hear you still believe it has something to do with land, here's your sign.
I'm justifying the beginning of this hate spiral. That's it. I'm not justifying what goes on today.
Only justifying the Palestinian anger towards Israel...

-konfusion
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina

CameronPoe wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

fanaticism seems to be rampant in Islam outside of the Middle East
lol. Yeah, you can't move for the fanatacists around here...
Well, admittedly, Muslims in America tend to be sensible people.  I'm sure most Muslims in Europe are sensible as well, but there's no denying that a good portion of them throw a shit fit over cartoons and the like.  Doesn't that indicate mental illness?
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6717|Éire

Turquoise wrote:

Braddock wrote:

This annoys me. I can't speak for every 'librul' here but I have acknowledged on countless occasions that horrific tales from the Muslim world do in fact exist and this islam-watch site reflects some of these tales... what I have always stressed is that these stories do not reflect the full story of what Islam is.

I could very easily set up a website that documents American torture, unlawful killings in warzones, dropping of napalm on little girls, US soldiers raping young Vietnamese girls, US military blowing the limbs of Iraqi children, the US aiding and abetting terrorist murderers like the Cuban Possada Carriles, the support and installation of dictators like Saddam Hussein and the terrorist Osama Bin Laden... now tell me would that site be balanced portrait of what America is?
I can see where you're coming from, but the next question should be: do most Islamic majority countries participate in more brutality or does the U.S.?
I'm not trying to attack the US... again! What I was trying to show was that a website showing only the bad side of something, though it has merit and is worthy of acknowledging, should never be used on it's on to build your entire set of opinions on a subject. Perhaps Lotta_Drool and lowing should check out some sites featuring tales from people who's lives have been lit up with the joy of Allah and have interpreted the Qu'ran in a way that has led them to live a peaceful happy existence, free of hatred and extremism!
Lotta_Drool
Spit
+350|6609|Ireland

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

S.Lythberg wrote:


Isn't Islam watch run by Muslims?

edit: Yes it is

now all I need is WBC watch run by other baptists.
Yeah, I have pretty much heard everything now. A site run by Muslims that say Islam is violent and intolerant then PROVE it through litersally countless articles is being dismissed by non-Muslims as garbage and biased not worthy of consideration.
This annoys me. I can't speak for every 'librul' here but I have acknowledged on countless occasions that horrific tales from the Muslim world do in fact exist and this islam-watch site reflects some of these tales... what I have always stressed is that these stories do not reflect the full story of what Islam is.

I could very easily set up a website that documents American torture, unlawful killings in warzones, dropping of napalm on little girls, US soldiers raping young Vietnamese girls, US military blowing the limbs of Iraqi children, the US aiding and abetting terrorist murderers like the Cuban Possada Carriles, the support and installation of dictators like Saddam Hussein and the terrorist Osama Bin Laden... now tell me would that site be a balanced portrait of what America is?
Religion, Country, Religion, Country, Religion, Country, God, Politics, God, Politics.

Sorry, but you lost me with your comparison.  America isn't a Religion.  You can take or leave a Religion or belief system.  If I leave America I would end up in Canada or Mexico.  Then you would just point out how bad Canada and Mexico are and I would have to move again.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,991|7058|949

lowing wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

lowing wrote:


Yeah, I have pretty much heard everything now. A site run by Muslims that say Islam is violent and intolerant then PROVE it through litersally countless articles is being dismissed by non-Muslims as garbage and biased not worthy of consideration.
Who are we?
We are a group of Muslim apostates who have left Islam out of our own conviction
http://www.islam-watch.org/IW/aboutus.htm

Wow, that wasn't very hard.
yeah and?? Because they sawe Islam for what it was and LEFT it all of a sudden means they do not know what they are talking about??
Who made that conclusion, you?

I saw Catholicism for what it was - a powerhungry, male-dominated social group contrived of archaic rituals set around the interpretation of a book written at least 1500 years ago.

Do I know what I am talking about?  Sure.  Does that mean it's the universal truth?  No.

Is that hard to understand, because I can dumb it down if you need me to.

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