lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA
Ok, here is a query for ya: From a discussion I had today.

Given all of the deaths in the world caused by AIDS, would you condone quarantine without exception for all people diagnosed with this disease in order to prevent the deaths that have occured or now future deaths? Basically, I am talking about permanent banishment from society until a CURE is found.

A coupla guidelines:

1. There are no exceptions, how the disease was contracted is irrelevant for this discussion.

2. Each colony can be supplied with all of the modern comforts but they are completely isolated short of communication with the outside world. I am not talking about punishment but banishment from each country's mainstream society. (If you can look at banishment as not punishment).

3. To keep it simple for now, the details about how to govern such colonies and taking care of the inhabitants are off limits. For this discussion, it is understood that that the infected people are NOT simply disposed of and forgotten. Just isolated.

Your thoughts
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina
You're Mike Huckabee?  I never would've guessed....
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6964|Long Island, New York
No. Because it's not like we can't prevent it.

It's called putting on a fuckin' rubber.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Poseidon wrote:

No. Because it's not like we can't prevent it.

It's called putting on a fuckin' rubber.
But, it is obvious that THAT solution isn't that simple. So, look at it like this, the genie is out of the bottle, the damage is done and growing is quarantine a solution you would entertain to stop it, or knowing what you know now, prevent it 25 years ago?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina
Your suggestions would make sense regarding an airborne disease, not a blood one.
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6964|Long Island, New York

lowing wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

No. Because it's not like we can't prevent it.

It's called putting on a fuckin' rubber.
But, it is obvious that THAT solution isn't that simple. So, look at it like this, the genie is out of the bottle, the damage is done and growing is quarantine a solution you would entertain to stop it, or knowing what you know now, prevent it 25 years ago?
It's not like AIDS is airborne like SARS. I think you have a thing with sending away people you don't like.

The only thing we SHOULD do and the only thing we really CAN do is educate people. That's all.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6579|what

Poseidon wrote:

It's not like AIDS is airborne like SARS. I think you have a thing with sending away people you don't like.
I think lowing is turning into a Nazi, showing more hate with every post he makes here.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

Turquoise wrote:

Your suggestions would make sense regarding an airborne disease, not a blood one.
I am thinking the reverse, if you isolated the sources of the infected blood, would you not isolate the disease?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

TheAussieReaper wrote:

Poseidon wrote:

It's not like AIDS is airborne like SARS. I think you have a thing with sending away people you don't like.
I think lowing is turning into a Nazi, showing more hate with every post he makes here.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina

lowing wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Your suggestions would make sense regarding an airborne disease, not a blood one.
I am thinking the reverse, if you isolated the sources of the infected blood, would you not isolate the disease?
Well, for starters, you'd also need to screen every incoming immigrant for AIDS as well.  In addition to this, we'd still have illegals coming in who might have AIDS as well.

There are far too many external factors for your plan to be 100% effective (or even 75% effective for that matter).
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7070
everyone has it
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6944|USA
wait, that doesn't already exist, does it?

https://www.world-guides.com/images/san_francisco/san_francisco_cable_car2.jpg

edit: how did this come up "in conversation"?

Last edited by CoronadoSEAL (2008-04-01 19:30:36)

konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6976|CH/BR - in UK

... That would be.... pretty damn hard, would it not? Too much effort, considering it's a blood disease.

-konfusion
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA
Ok I guess  I wasn't clear enough. We are gunna go under the assumption, it can be contained, and controlled through quarantine....Would you endorse it?
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6895

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

everyone has it


However karma'd me (I think Gunslinger), I fixed it. k?

Last edited by DoctaStrangelove (2008-04-01 19:28:38)

GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7070
matt damon
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6944|USA

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

matt damon
HurricaИe
Banned
+877|6388|Washington DC
Border's closed due to AIDS?
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6955|Global Command
airbourne plague=yes
Sex disease=no
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7108|Disaster Free Zone

lowing wrote:

Ok I guess  I wasn't clear enough. We are gunna go under the assumption, it can be contained, and controlled through quarantine....Would you endorse it?
Yes, and if people had some fucking balls 30 or so years ago when the first cases were being discovered we wouldn't have any problems today.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7078|USA

ATG wrote:

airbourne plague=yes
Sex disease=no
please explain
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6831|North Carolina

DrunkFace wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ok I guess  I wasn't clear enough. We are gunna go under the assumption, it can be contained, and controlled through quarantine....Would you endorse it?
Yes, and if people had some fucking balls 30 or so years ago when the first cases were being discovered we wouldn't have any problems today.
Well, I wasn't expecting that answer, but quarantine does make sense when we're only talking about a small group of people (less than a hundred).  Even so, assuming we took that approach 30 years ago, we'd still have needed a way to screen immigrants for AIDS.  Even with today's technology, there is no 100% effective method of detection, since HIV can remain dormant for a long time (making it hard to detect).
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6944|USA

DrunkFace wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ok I guess  I wasn't clear enough. We are gunna go under the assumption, it can be contained, and controlled through quarantine....Would you endorse it?
Yes, and if people had some fucking balls 30 or so years ago when the first cases were being discovered we wouldn't have any problems today.
you can't expect people 30 years ago to know what things were to become of AIDS in the future. 

take nuclear radiation for instance, "Nuclear testing between 1945 and 1963 killed an estimated 800,000 Americans from cancers attributable to radioactive fallout."  they didn't even see it coming. 

not only is hindsight 20/20; it's also a bitch.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6556|North Tonawanda, NY

lowing wrote:

ATG wrote:

airbourne plague=yes
Sex disease=no
please explain
I would support the quarantine of an airborne disease with a high mortality rate, like Ebola (if it were to become airborne, that is).  I would not support the quarantine of HIV/AIDS since it is spread through contact with bodily fluid.  That's like requiring a quarantine for genital herpes.

That's probably what ATG means also.

Last edited by SenorToenails (2008-04-01 20:57:28)

Reciprocity
Member
+721|7007|the dank(super) side of Oregon
This already exists.


It's called Africa.

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