BF2S Forums Is Russia a threat or it's just taking advantage of its resoruces?

Hang on a minute, Russia is a democracy now. If this guy gets re-elected then i'll start worrying.

Vladimir Putin, from what I gather, hankers for the days of old. This is evident in such symbolic acts as reintroduing the old soviet anthem but in other more meningful acts also. He has ruthlessly and viciously crushed legitimate demands for autonomy/independence in Chechnya. He exerts his influence over neighbouring nations like Ukraine, Georgia and Belarus, effectively holding them to ransom. Then we have the dubious imprisonment of Khodorkovsky and the killing of Litvinenko. Putin has Russian interests and only Russian interests at heart. He cares nothing for anything that stands in the way of a Russia that is 'great once again'. They deserve no trust whatsoever. There won't be a cold war. The west just needs to watch it's back and make sure they are not reliant on them at all.

Turquoise wrote:

Elections can always be rigged, and you have to consider the poor education system in Russia.

I don't get an idea how the fuck could you know about education sistem in Russia . Have you ever been to Russia ? Studied there ? So why are you judging it's education sistem ?

russias economy is declining so hard in the past 10 years.

Was declining ten years ago . Now it is raising . Check out some economy statistics .

They dont know where half there nukes are

Watch more 3d sort movies .

and the adverage worker makes 200 bucks a month

You fail . Yes , we all get less beeing average worker  then european or us ones , but not a 200 bucks . I worked on my summer vocations and got 400 $ \ month . And I'm not quolified worker .

He has ruthlessly and viciously crushed legitimate demands for autonomy/independence in Chechnya.

Cameron , I respect you , but I dont get why are you comparing Chechnya and ( as far as I understand ) your Ireland ? They are two way different stuff . Chechnya was indepent cince 1996 till 2000 . And what is was ? A nest of Al Queda & other arabian terorist fuckers ( you know who fight against Russian Federation there ? More then 60% are arabian mercenaries ) . Drug line between Middle East and former USSR countries . It must be controlled by Russia , btw , it is it's part for more then 100 years .

Longbow wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Elections can always be rigged, and you have to consider the poor education system in Russia.

I don't get an idea how the fuck could you know about education sistem in Russia . Have you ever been to Russia ? Studied there ? So why are you judging it's education sistem ?

russias economy is declining so hard in the past 10 years.

Was declining ten years ago . Now it is raising . Check out some economy statistics .

They dont know where half there nukes are

Watch more 3d sort movies .

and the adverage worker makes 200 bucks a month

You fail . Yes , we all get less beeing average worker  then european or us ones , but not a 200 bucks . I worked on my summer vocations and got 400 $ \ month . And I'm not quolified worker .

He has ruthlessly and viciously crushed legitimate demands for autonomy/independence in Chechnya.

Cameron , I respect you , but I dont get why are you comparing Chechnya and ( as far as I understand ) your Ireland ? They are two way different stuff . Chechnya was indepent cince 1996 till 2000 . And what is was ? A nest of Al Queda & other arabian terorist fuckers ( you know who fight against Russian Federation there ? More then 60% are arabian mercenaries ) . Drug line between Middle East and former USSR countries . It must be controlled by Russia , btw , it is it's part for more then 100 years .

Why do you defend Russia being yourself from Ukraine?  I mean, is Chechnya a real threat for Ukraine?

CameronPoe wrote:

Vladimir Putin, from what I gather, hankers for the days of old. This is evident in such symbolic acts as reintroduing the old soviet anthem but in other more meningful acts also. He has ruthlessly and viciously crushed legitimate demands for autonomy/independence in Chechnya. He exerts his influence over neighbouring nations like Ukraine, Georgia and Belarus, effectively holding them to ransom. Then we have the dubious imprisonment of Khodorkovsky and the killing of Litvinenko. Putin has Russian interests and only Russian interests at heart. He cares nothing for anything that stands in the way of a Russia that is 'great once again'. They deserve no trust whatsoever. There won't be a cold war. The west just needs to watch it's back and make sure they are not reliant on them at all.

Holy cow someone shoot me. Cam, i agree 100% and then some. Putin wants to and probably will bring ALL of russia back under one country. Anyone that has been following this guy the last few years can see that. It will happen, along with there alliance with Iran and the sheep countries of the ME that choose to follow.

Cameron wrote:

...Putin has Russian interests and only Russian interests at heart...

well, I guess the same could be said about GWB and the US in general. Maybe the methods are a bit different, but military action for political purposes and using ones natural ressources a political blackmail ain't nothing new to the US either.

As long as Europe makes sure it doesn't depend 100% on US gas/oil, we will be fine. Russia has lots of ressources, but it also needs someone to buy those. Our economies are too dependant on ech other to allow a Second Cold War. We just cannot afford it.

That is the major difference to the Cold War. These days, we all do business with each other, regardless of political systems.

Putin wants to be taken seriously, that's all. Give him the respect his nation deserves.

Of course they're a goddamn threat. They've just said they're pointing nuclear missiles at european cities! If that's not a threat, I don't know what IS.
Particularly because all the 4-minute warning does is give me time to find a nice view of London going up before the shockwave and radiation kill me.