JaggedPanther
Member
+61|6920
I say take away the gernades and I would join an IO server.  But that's just me.
OrangeHound
Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...
+1,335|7095|Washington DC

SharkyMcshark wrote:

As we all know Inf Only mode was included in patch 1.4.  ... i thought Id see what everyone else thinks
Here's what I think:

Gren Ades that Spam
TuataraDude
Member
+115|6969|Aotearoa
Apart from the granade spamming, which is very irritating (ironic as I love to claywhore on Warlord) I like IO. The one other issue is that you get used to long sprint ability and it takes some getting used to when you switch to a vehicle enabled server ("What? Tired already? Man am I unfit" lol).
.:ronin:.|Patton
Respekct dad i love u always
+946|7255|Marathon, Florida Keys
http://bf2s.com/player/84961471/

i made this to see how many points i could get in a hour and a half, infantry only is pretty fun.
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IRONCHEF
Member
+385|6937|Northern California
IO rules!  I've done it so much I've lowered my vehicle kills from 46% down to low 20's.

Getting the USMC out of their corner is a blast!!  So much fine-tuned fighting, dodgeball (nade spam dodging), and good sniping because of that.  With vehicles, it's all eryx and jihad jeeps.  I do miss arty in IO, but it's intense enough without. 

And even if USMC can't get out of their uncap and get surrounded, it's not like you're obliged to have a horrible KDR...to the contrary, I've come out with some excellent 2x kills to single digit deaths when spawn camped.  Very intense and very cool. 

Oh, and I think the kit selection is just as varied as it is in vehicle maps..just different kits..but they're all there..mechanics even for fixing assets...spec ops for blowing them up or c4ing flags.  snipers galore..even AT..but they're rare.  As MEC on IO Jalalabad, I'll somtimes sit in the chair and fire some rockets from the outpost at some rock outcroppings and hit USMC attackers..very cool.
san4
The Mas
+311|7134|NYC, a place to live
Definitely some good things about IO. One is that individual skill often matters more. You're constantly having one-on-one fights where the player who shoots faster and more accurately wins. Tank whoring is totally out of the picture so no one can go around crushing people with sheer firepower.

A second good thing about IO is that teamwork can be more important than in regular BF2.  When no one has vehicles, good defenders can keep the other team from reaching any bases at the start of a round (e.g., on Karkand or Jalalabad). On the other hand, a good attacking team can spread the defenders out so a couple of players can slip by the defenders and take a base far behind the front lines. Keeping the other team boxed in requires teamwork. Slipping by the defenders also takes teamwork. Very different from ordinary BF2 where it's not fatal if the other team slips by and takes Suburb on Karkand, for example, because the MEC tank and a car full of players can get up there in just a few seconds and take it back. In IO you can't recover so quickly if you let an enemy player sneak behind your lines so you have to work as a team to keep the other team boxed in.
Drunk_Musketeer
To be honest I don't care anyway..
+57|7184|Great Wall

SharkyMcshark wrote:

..a mate and I took a base and decided to wait and watch to see what would happen. 2 minutes later the entire enemy team (well, at least 10 of the suckers) all busted into the base at the same time and capped it in 10 seconds. I have not ever seen this effect in any 'normal' (vehicles included) game of bf2.
And that's great because you have so many opportunities for easy frags.. defending side is almost always in better situation than attacking side. Use what u get.. C4, claymores.. go on the roof over the flag.. Use all advantages.. attackers have none.

SharkyMcshark wrote:

Every person (ok, 9 out of 10) I came up against had a G36E. Combine this with the swarm effect and you get a lot of medics in a large group (leading to the next point)...

SharkyMcshark wrote:

no point trying to take on the swarm if 90% of them are medics and theyll just heal whoever you pick off is there?
AK-101 is still superior to G36E.. If someone explains his deaths with the fact that his opponents use G36E then maybe he better play something else than BF2 G36E is not that good if you face a few opponents in the same time.
Personally I like those medics reviving each other.. All you need is a grenade launcher.. sometimes you can kill all squads with 1 shot Man.. it's a real frag feast.

SharkyMcshark wrote:

Lack of SRAW/Eryx in the face?: This ALWAYS happens to me in normal bf2. i HATE getting eryx sniped, or Eryc shotgunned, but it didnt happen even once in 3 hours of play on karkand, jalala, sharqi and mashtuur. Interesting...
So what exactly is your problem with that because I don't see any.



My thought:
Infantry Only makes some maps i.e. Warlord very unbalanced (for SAS it's extremely hard to capture any flag, go behind enemy lines etc... tickets run out very fast)
I don't play IO much.. all my favourite servers are with vehicles.. IO is a bit boring.. I cannot have a damn car so it takes so long to get to a flag.

Last edited by Drunk_Musketeer (2006-11-28 16:18:19)

Inimicus_7
Member
+26|6808|England, UK
I prefer pre-patch IO. When you just used to not use tanks/APCs, I do miss my jihad jeep.

IO jihading was histericle, sure you could run over people or .50 cal them, but driving a jeep up loading with C4 and blowing it with 6 guys around = histericle.
That or just load it up with C4, wait for someone to get it and blow it up....Oh good times.

I say bring back jeeps in IO, they are easy enough to take out with well placed grenades and lets face it, it's IO, there are a lot of grenade whores. Again to agree with that other people have said, it would provide a use for Engineers/AT, I get bored just using the Jackhammer to beat 1 AT'er with the DAO who has been pissing me off, I'd like to be able to place down some mines and be more useful.
Longbow
Member
+163|7093|Odessa, Ukraine
easy .
montypythizzle
Member
+21|7049
IO was fun until they noticed they had nades..... ff MUST BE TURNED ON!!!
name1ess
Member
+8|7196|Newcastle, Aus.
its great, i have my filter on no vehicles
Marinejuana
local
+415|7031|Seattle

bad_mongoloid wrote:

IO with friendly fire OFF = noob city
IO with friendly fire = new gameplay mode that takes skill
YEAH. I hate FF off. its good if u like killing people u cant even see with grenades, C4ing onto obscure roofs, or if u are really sloppy about TKs. People put more care into their attacks when they are trying to damage the enemy AND keep their team safe at the same time.
Towelly
It's A State Of Mind
+399|7037|Your attic
IO is about as fun as this game gets for me, I know infantry movement has been nerfed to hell, but you can still get yourself about.

The 36E argument is null, AK-101 is a country mile better, the M16 is just as good if not better.
lt603668
Member
+6|6808|northern cali
They need a NO Claymore,ARTY,Nade,Vehicle server
ramsie1
Member
+2|6980|London UK
add transport jeeps with no mounted gun and then it would be perfect. simple reason it lets all kits have a good role on the battlefield as all i see is medic, support, sniper and of course its boring as hell to run across a map to defend a flag.
RiceKrispie
Member
+27|6834|Ottawa, ON
I love IO, but there are definitely a few changes that wouldn't hurt it.

1) Like most other people have said, grenades. Too many, too often. 1-2 grenades, with 1 ammo pack per 1 grenade would be nice.
2) Some maps aren't really ideally setup to support IO mode. 64 Jalalabad is a massacre nearly every round because of the amount of open space US players have to cross to reach the nearest flag. I've seen only 1 round in which the US managed to actually cap a few of the back flags and get away from their spawn, though they still lost. 16 Jalalabad, on the other hand, is incredible for IO. It would be beneficial if servers weren't limited to a single map size per rotation.
3) Neutered DPV's, only upon vehicle request from SL to commander would be useful. No weapons, just transportation.
4) AT mines should explode when stepped on, and Clays / AT mines explode when hit by another explosion.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7111|NT, like Mick Dundee

Towelly wrote:

the M16 is just as good if not better.
Yeah, whenever I pick up a G36E I can't get used to it's shitty deviation and recoil patterns... M16's much better.

IO is a different game again. I join a server like that when I want to play IO. Just as I join a regular server to hunt tanks or SF to play SF. None is better than the other although IO kark is really shitting me off now... Too stale a lot of the time. Better than ordinary kark though. People move more.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
jugobeer
Member
+18|6900
nade spam and medic padder.

Unless I know lot's of people on the server to form a good sqad i go somewhere else!
Cbass
Kick His Ass!
+371|7140|Howell, Mi USA
It's been said before and ill say it again. IO mode is for boons. It takes everything unique away from the game and turns it into an average shooter. Not having vehicles makes some maps just unplayabe. IO Iron Gator is 99.999% impossable for MECsf to get anywhere near the carrier. Vehicles are half the fun for me, if it's not for u then don't use them. IO mode is proof that DIce only listens to whiners. /cry
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Hitokiri_Battousi
Member
+1|6821

Spookyboy wrote:

its good fun,

but bein on 64 jalabad and being on the USMC sucks ass. the mec got the open flag first and we couldn't leave the base owned.

i think jeeps would be great.....maybe civilian cars??
thats where that "human wall of ownage" comes into play, a well organized commander and un-noobish players can all rush the lake, then into the city, throwin UAV's as a signal to "CAP THIS FLAG" and show the few poor souls defending it.

i've been on the bad end of this once...me, 3 other snipers and 4 medics ran from the lake to the little rock patch between the uncap and the lake to see ALL 32 PPL running, gunning, and nading.  i may say we got massacred.  in about 5 minutes (including run time between) they took the lake, junkyard, hotel, and the market.
ncc6206
=BIG= BAD AND UGLY
+36|6925
Ahhh but the real fun is waiting with a fully loaded PKM or RPK at a choak point on RTJ and letting her rip into the swarm. It also helps when you have three medic back ups that can revive or take over when the nades hit.  OOOOH the inhumanity. The inhumanity!!!!  Its a very effective deterrent to the human swarm issue.
killer21
Because f*ck you that's why.
+400|7037|Reisterstown, MD

Cbass wrote:

It's been said before and ill say it again. IO mode is for boons. It takes everything unique away from the game and turns it into an average shooter. Not having vehicles makes some maps just unplayabe. IO Iron Gator is 99.999% impossable for MECsf to get anywhere near the carrier. Vehicles are half the fun for me, if it's not for u then don't use them. IO mode is proof that DIce only listens to whiners. /cry
They have boats on Iron Gator, Operation Clean Sweep, and all the other large water maps.  Why would you play maps like that IO anyway?  That is silly.  Maps like Jalalabad and Karkand are made for IO.
Ubersturmbannfuhrer
I am a fucking homosexual
+211|7052|Parainen, Finland

Marinejuana wrote:

bad_mongoloid wrote:

IO with friendly fire OFF = noob city
IO with friendly fire = new gameplay mode that takes skill
YEAH. I hate FF off. its good if u like killing people u cant even see with grenades, C4ing onto obscure roofs, or if u are really sloppy about TKs. People put more care into their attacks when they are trying to damage the enemy AND keep their team safe at the same time.
Listen to this man folks!!!!
Drakef
Cheeseburger Logicist
+117|6808|Vancouver

lt603668 wrote:

They need a NO Claymore,ARTY,Nade,Vehicle server
If they began systematically removing everything from the game because some people complain about each part of BF2 (i.e. 'It's only for noobs', 'It's only for whores', 'It's too powerful'), then we would have nothing left. Battlefield 2 would be nothing but 64 guys will M-16s and nothing else, because everything else has been complained about. And that would be communism.

Personally, I enjoy Infantry Only, simply because I am a groundpounder and I felt tired of vehicles continually destroying me. I do play in servers with vehicles, but I see nothing wrong with Infantry Only. I do well in those servers. I'm quite a good shot with the AK-101. I try as much as I can not to use grenades as a way to ruin everyone else's fun (although, if they don't like being killed by grenades, they don't have to be there).

But we do need to remember that the entire concept behind Battlefield 2 was that there were vehicles that anyone could use. That was revolutionary. It was fantastic. And just because I am currently playing Infantry Only doesn't mean I'll never go back and use vehicles. That is what makes the game better than everyone else's.

In any case, this argument between infantry and vehicle proponents seems ridiculous. If you are having fun with what you are doing, whether it is flying a jet or tossing grenades, then go ahead. Have fun. That's what the game is about, not judging who is better than everyone else.
reefl3x
Member
+72|6848|United States
Good idea when it 1st started. But now 90% of the City map servers run it.

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