LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6809|MN
I still wouldn't want to be that close.  But their your nads in the line of fire, have at it.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
MorbiD.ShoT
Stormin' through the party
+322|7026
That was quite ridiculous.  Anyone thinking what I am thinking?

The future of body armor...=some advanced form of surface tension liquid.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6949|Adelaide, South Australia

MorbiD.ShoT wrote:

That was quite ridiculous.  Anyone thinking what I am thinking?

The future of body armor...=some advanced form of surface tension liquid.
Gel armor?

its not a bad idea, if you think about it...
LividBovine
The Year of the Cow!
+175|6809|MN
Is that kind of like a spray on condom?
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
Krauser98
Extra Green Please!
+53|7259|USA! USA! USA!
I don't think a vest will stop arrows.  It also depends on the classification of the vest.  They make different types for different jobs.  i.e. Prison Guards wear the kind meant to stop knives, shanks, etc Police Officers wear the kind meant to stop pistols and other small caliber weapons, and the guy who is going to pick up the IED in Iraqistan wears the kind meant to... well stop you from blowing up... we hope.  They also have an expiration date, so don't wear an old one or else it might not work (just like those pills your doctor gave you).  In my old profession we had the opportunity to take some old vests out to the range and see what they can handle.  Too bad we didn't think about arrows.  Knives will definitely go through any part that isn't solid, because Kevlar(R) is simply a type of woven cloth.  Also, don't ever, ever shoot the glass looking portion of the shields that the SWAT guys are carrying.  It left a hole like this -> U.  The bullet went in and came back out towards us.  Also, a vest won't stop an arrow from going through your face.
Fenris_GreyClaw
Real Хорошо
+826|6949|Adelaide, South Australia

Krauser98 wrote:

Also, a vest won't stop an arrow from going through your face.
Wont stop a bullet going there either

as for the glass on the SWAT shields, whoa.
Heavy_Guns_91
I hand out purple hearts like candy
+72|6833|Alberta, Canada
What about that "Dragonscale Armour" (yes... A "U" in armour. Because I'm Canadian ) that someone posted a while ago.
I think that might actually be put forth later on in military.
Darky
Hi..
+71|6991|Here.
Guess I'll have to start throwing grenades in the local pool, rather then relying on my .50 cal
xm20k
Member
+11|6791
Standard class 1,2, and 3 types of body armor only stop shrapnel and handgun rounds to varying degrees. There are different kinds of plates you add for knives and another for rifle rounds.

Knife plate is just hard plastic or sheet metal coated in a rubbery plastic to keep the metal from wearing through the pocket in the vest. 

SAPI plates are for high power rifle rounds and are a pressure formed ceramic that's about 3/4 to 1" thick with a layer of Kevlar adhered to it to keep it from fragmenting when hit kind of like the plastic in windshields.

They are working on ways to lighten and increase the flexibility of the heavy armor. ie dragon scales, some sort of reactive gel, and a few others.

BTW ever seen what hi-velocity rounds do to squirrels or even prairie dogs. assault rifle rounds are made the same way as an example a .223 or 5.56x45 round fragments when it hits any kind of resistance this is to maximize its wounding capability, it basically explodes on impact causing massive trauma and blood loss. The tiny critters mentioned above explode for this very reason.

In the case of the 50 cal you have three types of rounds fragmentation for soft targets, armor piercing/steel core, (military only) and incendiary (tracers) that have a tendency to catch things on fire and not much else.

My guess they were using the standard lead core copper jacketed round which = hi-velocity fragmenting.

Last edited by xm20k (2006-12-03 23:45:06)

kr@cker
Bringin' Sexy Back!
+581|6979|Southeastern USA
mythbusters=lame

"it only went 3 feet", no fucking shit, it's water, water does not compress and it moves slow as hell. that's why submarines aren't equipped with guns.
FesterTheMolester
BF2s US Server Admin, IRC>Forums
+157|7069|The Mind Of A Cereal Killer

jermyang wrote:

yeah, of course, huge tension.
i think it has to do with surface tension... if that's what you mean... if you actually mean the force of tension, then it would be compression


Compression
>--------<


Tension
<-------->
venom6
Since day One.
+247|6988|Hungary
Nice find !
mcgid1
Meh...
+129|7146|Austin, TX/San Antonio, TX

LividBovine wrote:

Partly correct.  Check my edit.  And it is not the 2 staged energy transfer as much as it is the parting of the fibers.  Basically, really sharp point with enough energy behind it will go through vest.
I'm pretty sure it's a combination of the two because the Kevlar needs time to "reset" itself after every hit and if it takes two quick hits, like from an automatic weapon hitting twice in the same area or the initial hit from the knife with the follow through force from the rest of the body a vest will fail.  If you ever watch "Modern Marvels" on the history channel there is a show about body armor where this point is hit on.

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