I'll tango with him next, db.dont_be_ss wrote:
Have you met a WOoKie yet?Drunk_Musketeer wrote:
I don't respect any.. All I met were just patheticcyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Nyte is the only sniper I respect.
I'm down for a dual if you are
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vehicles don't drive themselves (unless w/ lost conxn, but thats no fun ); my massive infantry score = grounded vehicles. Snipers cap flags just as fast as any other kit; they have the cap advantage with claymores and ghillie. (and yes, it works close range. from experience)greenhaven wrote:
Nice try. My point isn't that I think you are so godly that it requires a tank to defeat Your Godliness. My point is that on large maps like wake, it doesn't matter how good of a sniper you are, even if you're getting all sorts of infantry kills, you still end up getting pwned by vehicles. At least the medics and assaults are more likely to grab a flag before they get killed.
anywho, we are simply going in circles. You are too stubborn to admit defeat, I am too proud to pretend I lost. Just stop talking, and I'll do the same.
dual action? or a one-on-one duel?BigmacK wrote:
I'll tango with him next, db.dont_be_ss wrote:
Have you met a WOoKie yet?Drunk_Musketeer wrote:
I don't respect any.. All I met were just pathetic
I'm down for a dual if you are
/grammar nazi
i'll 'merengue' with him as well.
Well.. dunno about 6vs6 matches but in 8vs8 infantry matches I was playing as sniper quite often.. my clan mates always wanted me to play as a sniper in such matches.. so I did sometimes and it really worked well. Much depends on maps. There are maps that I would rather go as assault/medic than sniper. In matches with vehicles probably I wouldn't play as sniper either.. rather AT/assault/medic.Nyte wrote:
I don't condone snipers in league matches, because I can attest to the fact that they are quite useless (especially in small 6v6 matches). I only play as medic or AT in league matches (depending on if its infantry/armor modes). For league matches, AT, Medic, and Support pretty much are the only ones to consider using.
I would never play as support and spec ops because I think those are the most useless classes.. unless u can do jihad jeeping.. then maybe Spec Ops yes.
On FF off claymores are good.. on FF on I don't use them at all.. your claymore attracts your team mates like shit attracts flies..Nyte wrote:
I condone snipers in public servers (but not a whole team of them for obvious reasons). They are useful to ejecting people out of choppers/jets, claymore spawn spamming, and camping enemy helis/jets. And I guess if you are competent enough, they are good for killing (but most people aren't).
Much better thing making people eject from jets is imho Eryx or Straw And honestly.. how often you have a chance and want to waste your time to camp near enemy helipad to kill a pilot? I never bother.. and never pick M95 then.. If I wanna get rid of chopper I rather use IGLA or Tunguska if available.
Sniper is an infantry killer.. nothing more.
Heh.. I cannot arrange duel because Im a busy man (work, wife etc.. Im not in a clan anymore because of same reasons).. But I play at least 1-2 hours a day (randomly.. whenever I have some time) so as I said to that 'Wookie' guy he can check on my stat page whether Im available and on which server.. or not.. He can try anonymously if he likesR0lyP0ly wrote:
dual action? or a one-on-one duel?BigmacK wrote:
I'll tango with him next, db.dont_be_ss wrote:
Have you met a WOoKie yet?
I'm down for a dual if you are
/grammar nazi
i'll 'merengue' with him as well.
I'm not going to pretend I lost either, but I agree this is pointless.R0lyP0ly wrote:
vehicles don't drive themselves (unless w/ lost conxn, but thats no fun ); my massive infantry score = grounded vehicles. Snipers cap flags just as fast as any other kit; they have the cap advantage with claymores and ghillie. (and yes, it works close range. from experience)greenhaven wrote:
Nice try. My point isn't that I think you are so godly that it requires a tank to defeat Your Godliness. My point is that on large maps like wake, it doesn't matter how good of a sniper you are, even if you're getting all sorts of infantry kills, you still end up getting pwned by vehicles. At least the medics and assaults are more likely to grab a flag before they get killed.
anywho, we are simply going in circles. You are too stubborn to admit defeat, I am too proud to pretend I lost. Just stop talking, and I'll do the same.
exactly what i was thinking. WOoKie FTW.224th R0ck3tpack wrote:
I love sniping. As a WOoKie, that's what I DO.
Obviously, you were playing against a whole bunch of 7 year olds. A good sniper can kill and cover his ass at the same time, which is what claymores are for. They are for defense.
I like both styles- I like Infantry only for playing with the sniper kit to rack up the kills, but for a chopper-downing challenge I like vehicles.
Is this duel still happening? I want to put $5 on R0ly. (Actually, $5 AUD - Fenris, you up for bets?)greenhaven wrote:
I'm not going to pretend I lost either, but I agree this is pointless.R0lyP0ly wrote:
vehicles don't drive themselves (unless w/ lost conxn, but thats no fun ); my massive infantry score = grounded vehicles. Snipers cap flags just as fast as any other kit; they have the cap advantage with claymores and ghillie. (and yes, it works close range. from experience)greenhaven wrote:
Nice try. My point isn't that I think you are so godly that it requires a tank to defeat Your Godliness. My point is that on large maps like wake, it doesn't matter how good of a sniper you are, even if you're getting all sorts of infantry kills, you still end up getting pwned by vehicles. At least the medics and assaults are more likely to grab a flag before they get killed.
anywho, we are simply going in circles. You are too stubborn to admit defeat, I am too proud to pretend I lost. Just stop talking, and I'll do the same.
My crystal ball says a 2.1 KD with sniper rifle vs a 0.59 KD with a chopper will favour R0ly on rifle.
Btw - the argument about Wake is exactly why people revert to playing IO servers.
$10 aud on R0lyP0lyEkfud wrote:
Is this duel still happening? I want to put $5 on R0ly. (Actually, $5 AUD - Fenris, you up for bets?)greenhaven wrote:
I'm not going to pretend I lost either, but I agree this is pointless.R0lyP0ly wrote:
vehicles don't drive themselves (unless w/ lost conxn, but thats no fun ); my massive infantry score = grounded vehicles. Snipers cap flags just as fast as any other kit; they have the cap advantage with claymores and ghillie. (and yes, it works close range. from experience)
anywho, we are simply going in circles. You are too stubborn to admit defeat, I am too proud to pretend I lost. Just stop talking, and I'll do the same.
My crystal ball says a 2.1 KD with sniper rifle vs a 0.59 KD with a chopper will favour R0ly on rifle.
Btw - the argument about Wake is exactly why people revert to playing IO servers.
Gamematt wrote:
so stop playing IO already
play with vehicles as should be done
What the hell - we can hardly bet in the same direction...Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
$10 aud on R0lyP0lyEkfud wrote:
Is this duel still happening? I want to put $5 on R0ly. (Actually, $5 AUD - Fenris, you up for bets?)greenhaven wrote:
I'm not going to pretend I lost either, but I agree this is pointless.
My crystal ball says a 2.1 KD with sniper rifle vs a 0.59 KD with a chopper will favour R0ly on rifle.
Btw - the argument about Wake is exactly why people revert to playing IO servers.
Well, i don't want to LOSEEkfud wrote:
What the hell - we can hardly bet in the same direction...Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
$10 aud on R0lyP0lyEkfud wrote:
Is this duel still happening? I want to put $5 on R0ly. (Actually, $5 AUD - Fenris, you up for bets?)
My crystal ball says a 2.1 KD with sniper rifle vs a 0.59 KD with a chopper will favour R0ly on rifle.
Btw - the argument about Wake is exactly why people revert to playing IO servers.
ROFL, doesn't happen? Sure you don't want to qualify that?greenhaven wrote:
...as I have pointed out many times by now, since most games are played on city maps, combat over 100+ meter distances doesn't happen.
I can't believe you actually said that, Sharqi's your favourite map! I'm going to have to presume, for your sake, that you just don't know the range to the TV station from Construction Site (100-140m), or near City Entrance to the hillsides where the MEC snipers mostly start out (150-180m).
Sure on Kark and Mash the haze limits long-range viewing conditions but you can't just dismiss Wake, Dragon Valley, Daqing Oilfields, Oman, FuShe, Clean Sweep, Zatar and Kubra out of hand in terms of infantry play, and on those maps draw distance is the limiter for most people, not haze.
SF? Surge and Iron Gator definitely aren't restricted to below 100m. Mass Destruction and Ghost Town you can see targets well enough to shoot at over 120m (depending on silhouetting); Warlord's limited to around the 100m mark, normally.
At 200m+ vehicles (I mean armour, not sure if that's what you meant) > all classes, including most people playing AT so this point is meaningless.greenhaven wrote:
Also, if you have a map large enough where you are going to see combat at 200+ meters, vehicles > sniper.
No problem, but you'll have to wait a couple of weeks for my replacement G5 to arrive.greenhaven wrote:
How about you vs. me?
That'll give you time to pick a few others too (or they could just volunteer... guys?) so we get a decent cross-section, and at least one guy in the US. Hopefully we'll see a selection of different sniper rifles too, perhaps even all four of the most popular.
If you pick Karkand be aware that we'll only be able to test up to around 90m, which isn't enough. And since you're in the US and I'm in Europe we need to do this on at least two servers anyway, so the second one can be a different map if required.greenhaven wrote:
Then let's do it! I'd prefer to have my ass handed to me on a map of my own choosing, of course.
How about rules? Obviously you'll use the L85A1 on single shot. I'll use rifle + pistol if necessary. Want to do it mano-a-mano, standing out in the open without cover?
If you want to do this formally how are we going to measure range? Once we fix map(s) we could prepare in advance: range out to known landmarks from a given flag so one or both players know where to go to after respawning. Or do you just want to use the squad-leader orders to range it when we're there?
You are the only person who ever played sniper as a main class I respect.Nyte wrote:
Let's end this once and for all:
I don't condone snipers in league matches, because I can attest to the fact that they are quite useless (especially in small 6v6 matches). I only play as medic or AT in league matches (depending on if its infantry/armor modes). For league matches, AT, Medic, and Support pretty much are the only ones to consider using.
I condone snipers in public servers (but not a whole team of them for obvious reasons). They are useful to ejecting people out of choppers/jets, claymore spawn spamming, and camping enemy helis/jets. And I guess if you are competent enough, they are good for killing (but most people aren't).
QED.
(Trust me, I know I'm right, and you should know that too)
Mods, Please close this thread now.
You already said that.. Or you just want his attention? You still can pray to himcyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
You are the only person who ever played sniper as a main class I respect.
Well done, who cares who you respect? No one wants respect from an attention seeking kid.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
You are the only person who ever played sniper as a main class I respect.Nyte wrote:
Let's end this once and for all:
I don't condone snipers in league matches, because I can attest to the fact that they are quite useless (especially in small 6v6 matches). I only play as medic or AT in league matches (depending on if its infantry/armor modes). For league matches, AT, Medic, and Support pretty much are the only ones to consider using.
I condone snipers in public servers (but not a whole team of them for obvious reasons). They are useful to ejecting people out of choppers/jets, claymore spawn spamming, and camping enemy helis/jets. And I guess if you are competent enough, they are good for killing (but most people aren't).
QED.
(Trust me, I know I'm right, and you should know that too)
Mods, Please close this thread now.
Last edited by ssonrats (2006-12-05 01:57:09)
Snipers do help the team, it can offer support while the team is capping a flag, or as someone already mentioned, snipers can spot stuff from a longer distance...
Each kit is useful in some ways, i bought the game, i play with whatever kit i want, and if someone says im useless, then f u....
Each kit is useful in some ways, i bought the game, i play with whatever kit i want, and if someone says im useless, then f u....
Nyte still has problems respecting other people so why are you brownnosing him so much? Or did you fall in love with his E-penis from the start?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
You are the only person who ever played sniper as a main class I respect.Nyte wrote:
Let's end this once and for all:
I don't condone snipers in league matches, because I can attest to the fact that they are quite useless (especially in small 6v6 matches). I only play as medic or AT in league matches (depending on if its infantry/armor modes). For league matches, AT, Medic, and Support pretty much are the only ones to consider using.
I condone snipers in public servers (but not a whole team of them for obvious reasons). They are useful to ejecting people out of choppers/jets, claymore spawn spamming, and camping enemy helis/jets. And I guess if you are competent enough, they are good for killing (but most people aren't).
QED.
(Trust me, I know I'm right, and you should know that too)
Mods, Please close this thread now.
Nyte > You. It is a fact. See, his problems may be his attitude, but this is the internet, why would you get mad? I love nyte personally. I personally hate snipers. They are fucking useless to a team except for being meat shields. They can be annoying, but only temporarily.Jemme101 wrote:
Nyte still has problems respecting other people so why are you brownnosing him so much? Or did you fall in love with his E-penis from the start?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
You are the only person who ever played sniper as a main class I respect.Nyte wrote:
Let's end this once and for all:
I don't condone snipers in league matches, because I can attest to the fact that they are quite useless (especially in small 6v6 matches). I only play as medic or AT in league matches (depending on if its infantry/armor modes). For league matches, AT, Medic, and Support pretty much are the only ones to consider using.
I condone snipers in public servers (but not a whole team of them for obvious reasons). They are useful to ejecting people out of choppers/jets, claymore spawn spamming, and camping enemy helis/jets. And I guess if you are competent enough, they are good for killing (but most people aren't).
QED.
(Trust me, I know I'm right, and you should know that too)
Mods, Please close this thread now.
Are you two a couple?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
..I love nyte personally...
Yes. Yes we are in love.Drunk_Musketeer wrote:
Are you two a couple?cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
..I love nyte personally...
Nyte will never love you, he is too much in love with himself.
Nyte has never > me so that must be some fantasy in that pink bubble you live in.cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:
Nyte > You. It is a fact. See, his problems may be his attitude, but this is the internet, why would you get mad? I love nyte personally. I personally hate snipers. They are fucking useless to a team except for being meat shields. They can be annoying, but only temporarily.
His attitude is known and I find it at best amuzing. To get me mad you will have to do other stuff, which I think you are incapable of.
Your biased view on snipers is also well known and so unimportant by this point you are no longer taken seriously by anyone. The fact I post this is to help you save face from digging an even deeper hole for yourself. Thats the kind of guy I am. You didnt even have to crawl up my ass to get that acknowledgement.
EDIT:
QFTssonrats wrote:
Nyte will never love you, he is too much in love with himself.
Last edited by Jemme101 (2006-12-05 03:48:11)
when and where, ill be thereTodd_Angelo wrote:
ROFL, doesn't happen? Sure you don't want to qualify that?greenhaven wrote:
...as I have pointed out many times by now, since most games are played on city maps, combat over 100+ meter distances doesn't happen.
I can't believe you actually said that, Sharqi's your favourite map! I'm going to have to presume, for your sake, that you just don't know the range to the TV station from Construction Site (100-140m), or near City Entrance to the hillsides where the MEC snipers mostly start out (150-180m).
Sure on Kark and Mash the haze limits long-range viewing conditions but you can't just dismiss Wake, Dragon Valley, Daqing Oilfields, Oman, FuShe, Clean Sweep, Zatar and Kubra out of hand in terms of infantry play, and on those maps draw distance is the limiter for most people, not haze.
SF? Surge and Iron Gator definitely aren't restricted to below 100m. Mass Destruction and Ghost Town you can see targets well enough to shoot at over 120m (depending on silhouetting); Warlord's limited to around the 100m mark, normally.At 200m+ vehicles (I mean armour, not sure if that's what you meant) > all classes, including most people playing AT so this point is meaningless.greenhaven wrote:
Also, if you have a map large enough where you are going to see combat at 200+ meters, vehicles > sniper.No problem, but you'll have to wait a couple of weeks for my replacement G5 to arrive.greenhaven wrote:
How about you vs. me?
That'll give you time to pick a few others too (or they could just volunteer... guys?) so we get a decent cross-section, and at least one guy in the US. Hopefully we'll see a selection of different sniper rifles too, perhaps even all four of the most popular.If you pick Karkand be aware that we'll only be able to test up to around 90m, which isn't enough. And since you're in the US and I'm in Europe we need to do this on at least two servers anyway, so the second one can be a different map if required.greenhaven wrote:
Then let's do it! I'd prefer to have my ass handed to me on a map of my own choosing, of course.
How about rules? Obviously you'll use the L85A1 on single shot. I'll use rifle + pistol if necessary. Want to do it mano-a-mano, standing out in the open without cover?
If you want to do this formally how are we going to measure range? Once we fix map(s) we could prepare in advance: range out to known landmarks from a given flag so one or both players know where to go to after respawning. Or do you just want to use the squad-leader orders to range it when we're there?
(wheres my $$$ ?? )
LAZERJET PWN U LOLCAEK.
It's a fact. And an unedited one at that.
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