| The Attack on Pearl Harbor | 11% | 11% - 14 | ||||
| Battle of Stalingrad | 23% | 23% - 29 | ||||
| Operation Barbarossa | 12% | 12% - 15 | ||||
| Invasion of Poland | 4% | 4% - 6 | ||||
| Invasion of France | 0% | 0% - 1 | ||||
| D-Day | 16% | 16% - 21 | ||||
| Battle of Britain | 8% | 8% - 11 | ||||
| Battle of Midway | 0% | 0% - 1 | ||||
| Bombings of Hiroshima and Nagasaki | 14% | 14% - 18 | ||||
| Other | 6% | 6% - 8 | ||||
| Total: 124 | ||||||
D-Day took place in June of 1944, and Hitler invaded Soviets in 1941. The Battle of Stalingrad took place between 1942 and 1943. So, I think it's the opposite, if the Soviets wouldn't have defeated Hitler, then the D-Day would have failed. By the time of Battle of Normandy, the Russians didn't need any relief.Bernadictus wrote:
D-Day, if the allies had failed to land successfully, we would all be speaking like Slayer now, German that is.
+ The landing gave the Russians a most needed relief, since Hitler had to divide his forces between the Western and Eastern front and, do not forget the African/Italian theater.
Though it is true that throughout Operation Barbarossa, Hitler could not commit his full strength to the attack because he needed large forces in Western Europe to deter invasion from Britain.sergeriver wrote:
D-Day took place in June of 1944, and Hitler invaded Soviets in 1941. The Battle of Stalingrad took place between 1942 and 1943. So, I think it's the opposite, if the Soviets wouldn't have defeated Hitler, then the D-Day would have failed. By the time of Battle of Normandy, the Russians didn't need any relief.Bernadictus wrote:
D-Day, if the allies had failed to land successfully, we would all be speaking like Slayer now, German that is.
+ The landing gave the Russians a most needed relief, since Hitler had to divide his forces between the Western and Eastern front and, do not forget the African/Italian theater.
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Fenris_GreyClaw wrote:
Stalingrad.
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He had already won the war of western Europe. A war of attrition with GB without attempting to invade might have kept America out of the war, at least for a while. Spain were vaccilating, and if the US don't join maybe Franco allies with Hitler, which pretty much locks down North Africa. No attack on Russia means Turkey's neutrality is under threat and if they turn Axis German troops walk into the Middle East. Sure its a lot of "if"s but things were very "iffy" at that point. Churchill was extremely worried about Turkey throwing in with Hitler.Heavy_Guns_91 wrote:
Barbarossa.
If Hitler didn't attack Russia, he would've had a good chance at winning the war.
It had already fallen before the US thought about joining in. See above.Poseidon wrote:
Pearl Harbor. If not for it, europe may have very well fell to the Axis.
I second this man.paranoid101 wrote:
Dunkirk.
If Hitler hadn't have stopped his Panzer forces from finishing off and destroying the BEF (British expeditionary force), then he wouldn't have been fighting a two front war.
If Hitlers forces had destroyed the BEF at Dunkirk, then it would have been most likely that the British would have sued for peace and in taking the British out of the war, it would have meant that they would have been no second front, no where for the USA to land and build up forces.
This might have also meant that the USA forces would have only been at war with the Japanese.
This would have left Hitlers forces to attack the USSR in nearly full force, in turn destroying the Russians and winning the Second World war.
We will never know.
Actually, Hitler fucked Germany over when the Japs bombed Pearl Harbor. He declared war on them for no apparent reason.Major_Spittle wrote:
Pearl Harbor. Japan F@#ked up the war for both Germany and Japan by getting the US more involved that early on.
If the US would have stayed out of it Militarily for a couple more years, either USSR or Britian may have fell. This would have made the war a whole new ball game and put Germany in a better position for developing fighter jets and nukes before the Allies could have stopped mass production and usage of the technologies. If either front fell to Germany, the other would have been totally screwed dispite the US intervention.