BF2S Forums Did We Just Reached The Final Step Of Global Warming?

Commie Killer wrote:

That happens about everyone 400-600 years according to the Discovery Channel, Im pretty sure there not gonna be saying bull shit.

Last edited by WoSL ChemWarrior (2006-12-15 15:18:25)

smtt686 wrote:

Can't we just drop a nuke or 2 over Persia (Iran) and we kick up a few hundred thousand tons of dirt and debris that will shield the earth from those persistent rays from the sun?  All that dirt in the atmosphere is bound to cool off the earth in a few days and the penguins and polar bears will be happy again.

Bertster7 wrote:

smtt686 wrote:

Can't we just drop a nuke or 2 over Persia (Iran) and we kick up a few hundred thousand tons of dirt and debris that will shield the earth from those persistent rays from the sun?  All that dirt in the atmosphere is bound to cool off the earth in a few days and the penguins and polar bears will be happy again.

That might actually work. Volcanoes contribute to global cooling. I don't know enough about the details of a nuclear explosion to really say though.

Bertster7 wrote:

Commie Killer wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

That might actually work. Volcanoes contribute to global cooling. I don't know enough about the details of a nuclear explosion to really say though.

Scientists came up with the idea to heat Mars with thermonuclear weapons to build it up to a tempeture that can sustain life. They found out that one (dont know the size) thermonuclear weapon is equal to about 30 seconds of the suns heat. It will do absolutely nothing. If you didnt have to worry about nuclear winter, the global temperature would only rise a few degrees and only for a short time.

The nuclear winter aspect is what would contribute to cooling. With volcanoes it is because of ash clouds blocking out solar energy. I'm not too clued up on the aftermath of nuclear blasts, but I think that nuclear winter would work in a similar way. I could be very wrong about the nuclear stuff, but the overall theory is fairly sound.

Warlord wrote:

Oh it's just beginning my friend ... there's going to be some serious disasters in the foreseeable future I'm afraid. The glaciers are melting faster than ever, and eventually this sphere is going to be one giant ocean.

~ W

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I understand it just fine.

It doesn't look like you do.

You post a graph showing unpreceedented CO2 levels in the atmosphere and claim it somehow shows that global warming is not real?

If you look at the larger scale more recent graphs you can see the direct correlation between these increases in CO2 levels and temperature increases. Some argue that correlation is not a proper argument, although it's good enough for every other field of science. The distinction between correlation and causality remains an oncoming point of dispute raised by global warming sceptics (who are hard to find in the scientific community). This correlation has led to predictable results throughout history, but of course now the results will be totally different. 

WoSL ChemWarrior wrote:

I just wanna make sure I am hearing this right... An Ice Age or Temp spike happens every 400 - 600 years?

Sounds very wrong to me. More like every 150 million years. Although we are changing things, so who knows, maybe we will get an ice age within 600 years, we're not due one though, not for about 150 million years, we had one not long ago (a lot longer than 600 years though).

He could be hinting at the fact we have mini ice ages, like the one that occured during the mediaeval era.

Massive rise in CO2 and no relative rise in temperature... you fell over there a bit didn't you?

Basically all it shows is that co2 and temperature levels although in the past went up and down at relatively comparable levels they are in fact in no way associated at all, 400% CO2 increase and yet the temperature is what it has and always will be.

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

I understand it just fine.

It doesn't look like you do.

You post a graph showing unpreceedented CO2 levels in the atmosphere and claim it somehow shows that global warming is not real?

If you look at the larger scale more recent graphs you can see the direct correlation between these increases in CO2 levels and temperature increases. Some argue that correlation is not a proper argument, although it's good enough for every other field of science. The distinction between correlation and causality remains an oncoming point of dispute raised by global warming sceptics (who are hard to find in the scientific community). This correlation has led to predictable results throughout history, but of course now the results will be totally different. 


Sounds very wrong to me. More like every 150 million years. Although we are changing things, so who knows, maybe we will get an ice age within 600 years, we're not due one though, not for about 150 million years, we had one not long ago (a lot longer than 600 years though).

He could be hinting at the fact we have mini ice ages, like the one that occured during the mediaeval era.

Massive rise in CO2 and no relative rise in temperature... you fell over there a bit didn't you?

Basically all it shows is that co2 and temperature levels although in the past went up and down at relatively comparable levels they are in fact in no way associated at all, 400% CO2 increase and yet the temperature is what it has and always will be.

Ummm, no. Because the temperature increase (which there has been) has been proportional to the rise on CO2 emissions.