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2006-12-18 05:58:47
Cookie.VXT
Bringer Of Cookies.
+178|6892|UK
make it clear 1st IM NOT TALKING ABOUT THE PLACES

right now thats clear

im planning on building a 2nd computer this one im on atm is kinda sheite 3.2 P4 and like 512 RAM

ne way i dont want to hear storys about how this C2D crap is better, im not an intel person, i dont care how they benchmark or w/e

right now

as i said im not an Intel person im a AMD allways have been always will be.

so

Which AMD core is best San Diego or Venice?

i think from what i know its the San Diego as it has the larger L2 Cache than the Venice core

i just wanted 2 double check with some of the Tech's out there

Ta.
2006-12-18 06:25:08
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7005|UK

Zero!. wrote:

this one im on atm is kinda sheite 3.2 P4 and like 512 RAM


as i said im not an Intel person im a AMD 'allways have been always will be'.
Apparantly not.

I wonder why you would purchase a bit of hardware which is clearly outclassed for the same price?

Regardless, go for San Diego, if you must have AMD.

Martyn
2006-12-18 07:09:07
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7037|SE London

San Diego. Bigger cache, better silicon.

Seems silly not to go for an Intel chip though.

People who buy worse performance machines for the same price as something really good make no sense to me.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-12-18 07:11:39)

2006-12-18 07:11:06
Sarrk
O-O-O A-O A
+788|7112|Brisbane, Australia

What the fuck. Name processors after cities?

AMD Brisbane. I like that...
2006-12-18 07:11:37
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7172
Venice core. Larger cache wont mean much shit on AMD CPU's. Venice can probably overclock higher as well. But if your building a completely new PC, starting from scratch, go get core 2 duo, do I need to show benchmark numbers to prove you wrong?
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2006-12-18 07:13:30
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7037|SE London

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Venice core. Larger cache wont mean much shit on AMD CPU's. Venice can probably overclock higher as well. But if your building a completely new PC, starting from scratch, go get core 2 duo, do I need to show benchmark numbers to prove you wrong?
Not true. San Diego cores get a much better performance boost from overclocking than Venice cores. They are also more durable to temperatures as they are made from higher grade strained silicon.
2006-12-18 07:27:31
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7172

Bertster7 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Venice core. Larger cache wont mean much shit on AMD CPU's. Venice can probably overclock higher as well. But if your building a completely new PC, starting from scratch, go get core 2 duo, do I need to show benchmark numbers to prove you wrong?
Not true. San Diego cores get a much better performance boost from overclocking than Venice cores. They are also more durable to temperatures as they are made from higher grade strained silicon.
Then I say San Diego then.
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2006-12-18 07:28:51
Sarrk
O-O-O A-O A
+788|7112|Brisbane, Australia

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Venice core. Larger cache wont mean much shit on AMD CPU's. Venice can probably overclock higher as well. But if your building a completely new PC, starting from scratch, go get core 2 duo, do I need to show benchmark numbers to prove you wrong?
Not true. San Diego cores get a much better performance boost from overclocking than Venice cores. They are also more durable to temperatures as they are made from higher grade strained silicon.
Then I say San Diego then.
AMD Brisbane is bettarz. It has an insane ammount of heat, and yet nothing fries!
2006-12-18 07:33:06
Marlboroman82
Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.
+1,022|7079|Camp XRay

Sarrk wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Not true. San Diego cores get a much better performance boost from overclocking than Venice cores. They are also more durable to temperatures as they are made from higher grade strained silicon.
Then I say San Diego then.
AMD Brisbane is bettarz. It has an insane ammount of heat, and yet nothing fries!
san diego, 3700+ is cheap and overclocks well. if your still having trouble give me a call, all though i will probably be tied up with cyborgs mom the rest of the day.
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2006-12-18 07:55:23
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|7172

Marlboroman82 wrote:

Sarrk wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:


Then I say San Diego then.
AMD Brisbane is bettarz. It has an insane ammount of heat, and yet nothing fries!
san diego, 3700+ is cheap and overclocks well. if your still having trouble give me a call, all though i will probably be tied up with cyborgs mom the rest of the day.
Hi dad.
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2006-12-18 07:55:58
Marlboroman82
Personal philosophy: Clothing optional.
+1,022|7079|Camp XRay

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Marlboroman82 wrote:

Sarrk wrote:


AMD Brisbane is bettarz. It has an insane ammount of heat, and yet nothing fries!
san diego, 3700+ is cheap and overclocks well. if your still having trouble give me a call, all though i will probably be tied up with cyborgs mom the rest of the day.
Hi dad.
go to bed cyborg, your mother will be up to tuck you in a min
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2006-12-18 08:09:04
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7005|UK

Marlboroman82 wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

Marlboroman82 wrote:


san diego, 3700+ is cheap and overclocks well. if your still having trouble give me a call, all though i will probably be tied up with cyborgs mom the rest of the day.
Hi dad.
go to bed cyborg, your mother will be up to tuck you in a min
Now see, you where funny (ish) but then that just made u look like a tosser

Martyn
2006-12-18 09:09:57
The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|7098|Deep In The South Of Texas
Sandy FTW!

Amazing overclockers. Look for the BNBOX version, the true San Diego. The CFBOX ones are Toledo cores with one defective core disabled. And before you ask, there's no way to enable the dead core, they're laser cut.
2006-12-18 09:16:30
Richard2000
Banned
+39|7001|England
just go for AM2 and fuck the other cpu,s
2006-12-18 09:20:42
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7037|SE London

Richard2000 wrote:

just go for AM2 and fuck the other cpu,s
lol.

AM2 is the worst socket to go for. There is no future for AM2. It gets poor performance to price, due to crap utilisation of the higher frequency memory, and has already been rendered obsolete by socket AM3.

AM2 is about as good an idea as socket 940 (the predecessor of AM2) was when that was released.

Last edited by Bertster7 (2006-12-18 09:21:04)

2006-12-18 09:28:50
Computer_Guy
Member
+54|7153
Go to san diego since thats where i live. Perfect Weather all the time. I just had to do it.
2006-12-18 10:12:00
Richard2000
Banned
+39|7001|England

Bertster7 wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:

just go for AM2 and fuck the other cpu,s
lol.

AM2 is the worst socket to go for. There is no future for AM2. It gets poor performance to price, due to crap utilisation of the higher frequency memory, and has already been rendered obsolete by socket AM3.

AM2 is about as good an idea as socket 940 (the predecessor of AM2) was when that was released.
mine works very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very WELL
AM2 IS KING
2006-12-18 10:27:36
Bell
Frosties > Cornflakes
+362|7005|UK

Richard2000 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:

just go for AM2 and fuck the other cpu,s
lol.

AM2 is the worst socket to go for. There is no future for AM2. It gets poor performance to price, due to crap utilisation of the higher frequency memory, and has already been rendered obsolete by socket AM3.

AM2 is about as good an idea as socket 940 (the predecessor of AM2) was when that was released.
mine works very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very WELL
AM2 IS KING
I wonder if he was clever enough to copy and paste, or he actually wrote all that out 8-)

Martyn
2006-12-18 10:45:56
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7037|SE London

Richard2000 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:

just go for AM2 and fuck the other cpu,s
lol.

AM2 is the worst socket to go for. There is no future for AM2. It gets poor performance to price, due to crap utilisation of the higher frequency memory, and has already been rendered obsolete by socket AM3.

AM2 is about as good an idea as socket 940 (the predecessor of AM2) was when that was released.
mine works very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very WELL
AM2 IS KING
AM2 is not king. You clearly know fuck all about CPU architecture. Buying an AM2 CPU is a really silly thing to do.

Your CPU, the X2 4600+, is available in a 939 version which represents better value for money (due to the CPU being based on older AMD designs that did not use DDR2 memory and thus the new chips don't take full advantage of the frequency and lose the benefit of better latencies that they are optimised for). The one thing AM2 did have going for it until recently was that it was the newest AMD socket - with the release of AM3, AM2 has been made totally redundant. Anyone who goes out and buys an AM2 CPU is an idiot.
2006-12-18 11:30:19
Richard2000
Banned
+39|7001|England

Bertster7 wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


lol.

AM2 is the worst socket to go for. There is no future for AM2. It gets poor performance to price, due to crap utilisation of the higher frequency memory, and has already been rendered obsolete by socket AM3.

AM2 is about as good an idea as socket 940 (the predecessor of AM2) was when that was released.
mine works very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very WELL
AM2 IS KING
AM2 is not king. You clearly know fuck all about CPU architecture. Buying an AM2 CPU is a really silly thing to do.

Your CPU, the X2 4600+, is available in a 939 version which represents better value for money (due to the CPU being based on older AMD designs that did not use DDR2 memory and thus the new chips don't take full advantage of the frequency and lose the benefit of better latencies that they are optimised for). The one thing AM2 did have going for it until recently was that it was the newest AMD socket - with the release of AM3, AM2 has been made totally redundant. Anyone who goes out and buys an AM2 CPU is an idiot.
939 CPU,s are redundant they dont make that shit any more so and play with your out of date CPU,s
2006-12-18 11:45:57
The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|7098|Deep In The South Of Texas

Richard2000 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:


mine works very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very very WELL
AM2 IS KING
AM2 is not king. You clearly know fuck all about CPU architecture. Buying an AM2 CPU is a really silly thing to do.

Your CPU, the X2 4600+, is available in a 939 version which represents better value for money (due to the CPU being based on older AMD designs that did not use DDR2 memory and thus the new chips don't take full advantage of the frequency and lose the benefit of better latencies that they are optimised for). The one thing AM2 did have going for it until recently was that it was the newest AMD socket - with the release of AM3, AM2 has been made totally redundant. Anyone who goes out and buys an AM2 CPU is an idiot.
939 CPU,s are redundant they dont make that shit any more so and play with your out of date CPU,s
939 may be out of production, but that doesn't change the fact that AM2 offers NO advantage over it. Unless you consider paying for DDR2 and getting no better performance than DDR1 an advantage.
2006-12-18 11:56:18
Agent_Dung_Bomb
Member
+302|7192|Salt Lake City

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


AM2 is not king. You clearly know fuck all about CPU architecture. Buying an AM2 CPU is a really silly thing to do.

Your CPU, the X2 4600+, is available in a 939 version which represents better value for money (due to the CPU being based on older AMD designs that did not use DDR2 memory and thus the new chips don't take full advantage of the frequency and lose the benefit of better latencies that they are optimised for). The one thing AM2 did have going for it until recently was that it was the newest AMD socket - with the release of AM3, AM2 has been made totally redundant. Anyone who goes out and buys an AM2 CPU is an idiot.
939 CPU,s are redundant they dont make that shit any more so and play with your out of date CPU,s
939 may be out of production, but that doesn't change the fact that AM2 offers NO advantage over it. Unless you consider paying for DDR2 and getting no better performance than DDR1 an advantage.
Unless he already has DDR RAM he can use, AM2 is the better choice.  DDR is going away, so buying DDR now, and then DDR2 later makes no sense.
2006-12-18 12:24:55
The Stillhouse Kid
Licensed Televulcanologist
+126|7098|Deep In The South Of Texas

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:


939 CPU,s are redundant they dont make that shit any more so and play with your out of date CPU,s
939 may be out of production, but that doesn't change the fact that AM2 offers NO advantage over it. Unless you consider paying for DDR2 and getting no better performance than DDR1 an advantage.
Unless he already has DDR RAM he can use, AM2 is the better choice.  DDR is going away, so buying DDR now, and then DDR2 later makes no sense.
I figure since he was asking about 939 then he was happy with DDR. As you said, he may indeed already have some he can use. He might be working within a budget(as I did) and DDR2 is out of reach at the moment.
2006-12-18 12:25:04
Cookie.VXT
Bringer Of Cookies.
+178|6892|UK
this has gone onto one of those AM2 is t3h 1337 arguments again *sigh*
2006-12-18 12:31:38
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7037|SE London

Agent_Dung_Bomb wrote:

The Stillhouse Kid wrote:

Richard2000 wrote:


939 CPU,s are redundant they dont make that shit any more so and play with your out of date CPU,s
939 may be out of production, but that doesn't change the fact that AM2 offers NO advantage over it. Unless you consider paying for DDR2 and getting no better performance than DDR1 an advantage.
Unless he already has DDR RAM he can use, AM2 is the better choice.  DDR is going away, so buying DDR now, and then DDR2 later makes no sense.
That's the only reason though. Which I can't say I find very convincing. It does make more sense to buy DDR2 memory at the moment. But I can't see any scenario where any AM2 CPU is the best choice for anyone building a system.

 

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