Lies.... But thanks for the previous complement.thanks_champ wrote:
but from what I've heard you don't have many more troops left to invade anyone with.
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Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
And if you don't agree. Please don't post a smart ass comment. Explain which countries and why...pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
No... It's very logical. No country can repel a US invasion.jonsimon wrote:
Thats silly. Many countries could repel a US invasion. Empires always think they are invincible only to be sorely mistaken.
Lies? I've heard quite a bit about it lately, in fact here is a Fox "News" article quoting a retiring general disagreeing with Bush's troop surge for none other than it being... *drum roll please* Unsustainable!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,237757,00.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,237757,00.html
LOL!.... Well thanks for you uninsitfull opinion, but the Iran comment will be totaly decimated sooner than you think. roflmaojonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
And if you don't agree. Please don't post a smart ass comment. Explain which countries and why...pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
No... It's very logical. No country can repel a US invasion.
Face it. USA is the ONLY super power in the world.
If both sides are at full strength, only Russia, India, and China have the capability to stop a full US invasion, simply because of their huge size and large populations. Even with Iraq, we could still destroy the armies of a great number of nations, though occupying them would be different.jonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
And if you don't agree. Please don't post a smart ass comment. Explain which countries and why...pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
No... It's very logical. No country can repel a US invasion.
Britain was too, but, guess what, they got beat by a ragtag army of americans and a few french boats. Why don't you susbstantiate your opinion that the US has an infinite army that can invade and occupy hell itself?pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
LOL!.... Well thanks for you uninsitfull opinion, but the Iran comment will be totaly decimated sooner than you think. roflmaojonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
And if you don't agree. Please don't post a smart ass comment. Explain which countries and why...
Face it. USA is the ONLY super power in the world.
Edit: Oh, and uninsitfull isn't a word. Nor is uninsightful.
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So you take the word of one general.... While MANY more know we can add more troops, and yet still be sustainable.thanks_champ wrote:
Lies? I've heard quite a bit about it lately, in fact here is a Fox "News" article quoting a retiring general disagreeing with Bush's troop surge for none other than it being... *drum roll please* Unsustainable!
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,237757,00.html
Actually that is probably be where the world's best airforce would come into hand... And the technology being put into bombs. Just drop a few MOAB'S where a huge troop build up is an they are all DEAD.UGADawgs wrote:
If both sides are at full strength, only Russia, India, and China have the capability to stop a full US invasion, simply because of their huge size and large populations. Even with Iraq, we could still destroy the armies of a great number of nations, though occupying them would be different.jonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
And if you don't agree. Please don't post a smart ass comment. Explain which countries and why...
That's the point, we're not at full strength. We have Iraq, afgan, korea, vietnam, the list goes on. We have troops in over a hundred different nations, and two active wars going on. If the whole of the US military bore down on one nation, we could likely invade any nation that we are not allied with or that is not Russia or China (for logistics reasons, those are some big masses of land, and they're allied). But the US military is split up so many different ways it can't even successfully install a puppet regime in itty bitty iraq with its pitiful resistence.UGADawgs wrote:
If both sides are at full strength, only Russia, India, and China have the capability to stop a full US invasion, simply because of their huge size and large populations. Even with Iraq, we could still destroy the armies of a great number of nations, though occupying them would be different.jonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
And if you don't agree. Please don't post a smart ass comment. Explain which countries and why...
its not as simple as C&C generalspRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
Actually that is probably be where the world's best airforce would come into hand... And the technology being put into bombs. Just drop a few MOAB'S where a huge troop build up is an they are all DEAD.UGADawgs wrote:
If both sides are at full strength, only Russia, India, and China have the capability to stop a full US invasion, simply because of their huge size and large populations. Even with Iraq, we could still destroy the armies of a great number of nations, though occupying them would be different.jonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.
War requires tactics and such
China could.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
No... It's very logical. No country can repel a US invasion.jonsimon wrote:
Thats silly. Many countries could repel a US invasion. Empires always think they are invincible only to be sorely mistaken.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
No country can.
Americans.... Enough said. We pwn all.jonsimon wrote:
Britain was too, but, guess what, they got beat by a ragtag army of americanspRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
LOL!.... Well thanks for you uninsitfull opinion, but the Iran comment will be totaly decimated sooner than you think. roflmaojonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.
Face it. USA is the ONLY super power in the world.
Sometimes it seems like the majority of Americans think war is just like C&C. +1Dwit wrote:
its not as simple as C&C generalspRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
Actually that is probably be where the world's best airforce would come into hand... And the technology being put into bombs. Just drop a few MOAB'S where a huge troop build up is an they are all DEAD.UGADawgs wrote:
If both sides are at full strength, only Russia, India, and China have the capability to stop a full US invasion, simply because of their huge size and large populations. Even with Iraq, we could still destroy the armies of a great number of nations, though occupying them would be different.
War requires tactics and such
Just like we're 'pwning' the Iraqi resistence.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
Americans.... Enough said. We pwn all.jonsimon wrote:
Britain was too, but, guess what, they got beat by a ragtag army of americanspRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
LOL!.... Well thanks for you uninsitfull opinion, but the Iran comment will be totaly decimated sooner than you think. roflmao
Face it. USA is the ONLY super power in the world.
I know... I am an Army soldier as well. Training for Army Ranger. (Special Forces)Dwit wrote:
its not as simple as C&C generalspRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
Actually that is probably be where the world's best airforce would come into hand... And the technology being put into bombs. Just drop a few MOAB'S where a huge troop build up is an they are all DEAD.UGADawgs wrote:
If both sides are at full strength, only Russia, India, and China have the capability to stop a full US invasion, simply because of their huge size and large populations. Even with Iraq, we could still destroy the armies of a great number of nations, though occupying them would be different.
War requires tactics and such
Can we use a current war for example. Iraq some trained terrorists not much weapons pretty much old but still working weapons IED's no large air force hardly any if any tanks. After almost 4 years of fighting the US "war machine" hasn't been able to take control of 1 road from baghdad to the airport.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
And if you don't agree. Please don't post a smart ass comment. Explain which countries and why...pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
No... It's very logical. No country can repel a US invasion.jonsimon wrote:
Thats silly. Many countries could repel a US invasion. Empires always think they are invincible only to be sorely mistaken.
Now imagine this, Highly trained troops air defence, system airforce, armoured divisions, navy 100,000 weapons some state of the art others average. You might get in but you wont get out. The current amount of troops deployed in Iraq is close to 160K right? So take those 160K vs a whole entire armed country which has its own airforce navy and air defences and see how far you will get in the first few years. Such an attempt of an invasion would backfire and the agressors in the end would lose. Then we could call it Vietnam 3. Another un succesful "freedom" attempt by the US army. Who's Predecessors were GW2 and Vietnam. "claps" Get real everyone knows that in fighting a war even the most powerful force in the world can get defeated easily if not on home ground. Look at Germany in WW2.
Was going to make a smart arse comment but decided not to. It involved certain peoples IQ and admittance into the most prestigous part of the US infantry.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
I know... I am an Army soldier as well. Training for Army Ranger. (Special Forces)Dwit wrote:
its not as simple as C&C generalspRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
Actually that is probably be where the world's best airforce would come into hand... And the technology being put into bombs. Just drop a few MOAB'S where a huge troop build up is an they are all DEAD.
War requires tactics and such
Oh please pm me that.spray_and_pray wrote:
Was going to make a smart arse comment but decided not to. It involved certain peoples IQ and admittance into the most prestigous part of the US infantry.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
I know... I am an Army soldier as well. Training for Army Ranger. (Special Forces)Dwit wrote:
its not as simple as C&C generals
War requires tactics and such
Was probly too harsh on 1st reply but I think people get the point invading a country and staying there isn't easy. The main problem with the balkan conflict is that most troop bases were built inside mountains made of graphite air bases were put into installations such as this and the same goes with sea bases out in the mediterranian in some Ex-Yugoslav coastal towns. Quoted from that pathetic movie war of the worlds. "If history has ever taught us anything its that occupation are never succesful" (or something similar)
Part of an invasion is an Occupation comprende. It is impossible to win unless you are anhilating at which you would lose fighting against a whole entire countries populace. But the UN would stop someone in the first place and im sure the Ruski's have some new equipment to test.
Part of an invasion is an Occupation comprende. It is impossible to win unless you are anhilating at which you would lose fighting against a whole entire countries populace. But the UN would stop someone in the first place and im sure the Ruski's have some new equipment to test.
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ignorance is blisspRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
LOL!.... Well thanks for you uninsitfull opinion, but the Iran comment will be totaly decimated sooner than you think. roflmaojonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
And if you don't agree. Please don't post a smart ass comment. Explain which countries and why...
Face it. USA is the ONLY super power in the world.
ya... I know... Sad isn't it?herrr_smity wrote:
ignorance is blisspRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
LOL!.... Well thanks for you uninsitfull opinion, but the Iran comment will be totaly decimated sooner than you think. roflmaojonsimon wrote:
Any country with a decent military because war is difficult and the American military is stretched thin in many ways. I think Iran could repel an invasion to some degree and certainly russia, britain, canada, any of the EU member nations, OPEC member nations, and china could repel invasions if not simply because they have powerful allies and economic strings to pull.
Face it. USA is the ONLY super power in the world.
"First, they should make it crystal clear to Chavez that he should not arm civilians. "
yikes sounds to me like someone doesn't like the fact that he wants to arm his civilian population, but unfortunately we have a situation where local governmental authority outweighs other countries push towards disarming.
Essentially the fear is that the weapons will be going into the black market, but i have a small issue with this why does Venezuela spend all of the money only to have them stolen and then sold in the black market, i suppose having a little faith in their investment would require protections from this happening.
As for the rest of the responses on how the US is the world super power...please people remove the blinders that only let you see through the narrow band called US propaganda. It may have a technological advantage with a variety of respects, but unfortunately the likely hood that the rest of the G7 will allow for the US to invade whatever it wants is highly unlikely. Not to mention tarnishing even more its self image and ultimately setting itself up for reappraisal.
yikes sounds to me like someone doesn't like the fact that he wants to arm his civilian population, but unfortunately we have a situation where local governmental authority outweighs other countries push towards disarming.
Essentially the fear is that the weapons will be going into the black market, but i have a small issue with this why does Venezuela spend all of the money only to have them stolen and then sold in the black market, i suppose having a little faith in their investment would require protections from this happening.
As for the rest of the responses on how the US is the world super power...please people remove the blinders that only let you see through the narrow band called US propaganda. It may have a technological advantage with a variety of respects, but unfortunately the likely hood that the rest of the G7 will allow for the US to invade whatever it wants is highly unlikely. Not to mention tarnishing even more its self image and ultimately setting itself up for reappraisal.
Yeah, I know right? Because, of course, all those guys in Iraq and Iran and Russia and Kadjfcdeastan are stupid enough to clump up in huge places. Yeah, no. They know about this stuff. I have a book on my desk: details all the things the US military can do. Bombs, bullets, beans, guess what? Printed in China - surprise, surprise. Some Chinese PLA soldier could just grab one off the local cargo truck and tick off a list of things not to do: Do not make large human clusters, check. Do not head-on engage Abrams tanks but blow the crap out of their fuel trucks, thus immobilizing them...check. Blend in with the population, check. Guerilla warfare, check. Notebook > e-mail > send > Iran. Iran > send > everywhere except us. Whoopee, now everyone knows how to avoid the strong points of the US arsenal and hit the weak ones. Your little MOAB is useless against people spread out over 1000 square miles hidden in with the people. And as World War II and Vietnam should have shown, bombs don't win wars. They help to win wars.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
Just drop a few MOAB'S where a huge troop build up is an they are all DEAD.
Oh, and about us being the only superpower? Hmm...it seems that we like to make enemies, and if we don't, we're good at it anyways. Our enemies have something in common: being our enemies. Our enemies figure it out sooner or later and make an alliance on the premise that they don't like us. Us > random nation, 15 armed and pissed-off nations > us. Face it.
Army Rangers...dear God I pray for whatever unit you get assigned to, on the 1% chance that that's not complete bullshit invented to make you sound credible.
Thanks for your very liberial opionion on this matter.k30dxedle wrote:
Yeah, I know right? Because, of course, all those guys in Iraq and Iran and Russia and Kadjfcdeastan are stupid enough to clump up in huge places. Yeah, no. They know about this stuff. I have a book on my desk: details all the things the US military can do. Bombs, bullets, beans, guess what? Printed in China - surprise, surprise. Some Chinese PLA soldier could just grab one off the local cargo truck and tick off a list of things not to do: Do not make large human clusters, check. Do not head-on engage Abrams tanks but blow the crap out of their fuel trucks, thus immobilizing them...check. Blend in with the population, check. Guerilla warfare, check. Notebook > e-mail > send > Iran. Iran > send > everywhere except us. Whoopee, now everyone knows how to avoid the strong points of the US arsenal and hit the weak ones. Your little MOAB is useless against people spread out over 1000 square miles hidden in with the people. And as World War II and Vietnam should have shown, bombs don't win wars. They help to win wars.pRiNcEkAhUnA1 wrote:
Just drop a few MOAB'S where a huge troop build up is an they are all DEAD.
Oh, and about us being the only superpower? Hmm...it seems that we like to make enemies, and if we don't, we're good at it anyways. Our enemies have something in common: being our enemies. Our enemies figure it out sooner or later and make an alliance on the premise that they don't like us. Us > random nation, 15 armed and pissed-off nations > us. Face it.
Army Rangers...dear God I pray for whatever unit you get assigned to, on the 1% chance that that's not complete bullshit invented to make you sound credible.
Just makes me happy that I am fighting for your right to say that at this moment. You better be thankful all this men and women are doing that for YOU.
Ummm, yeah, thanks for that..... wait, just for lil ol me?
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