An Explanation on the Point System

2007-01-27 05:03:58

#1

Kukulcan: Member; +6|6572|The Battlefield

Yesterday i was having an argue with another bf2 player , a friend of mine.
He said that the winning team in a ranked server , gets the point he made during the round + the tickets remained to the team.
The winning commander gets the double of the points made during the game

Now... i don't think so , for some reasons but i really don't know how the score system works.... i mean : i know that a kill gives 2 points and so but i don't know if ALL the members of the winning team double their point , get the tickets as points or something else.

Can someone explain me CLEARLY the point system once and for all?

2007-01-27 05:06:34

#2

^*AlphA*^: F*ckers; +3,135|7010|The Hague, Netherlands

Winning team or not winning team

you will all get the points you earned in the round, the ones you see on the scoreboard.

the commander of the losing team and on the winning team have an average of their teams points BUT the one on the winning team get his points doubled (x2), the losing commander does not get his points doubled because his team lost.

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2007-01-27 05:07:19

#3

Fenris_GreyClaw: Real Хорошо; +826|6791|Adelaide, South Australia

Every soldier will get their points, regardless of win or loss, and the Winning commander gets a x2.

The tickets only determine when the round ends, and which team won.

2007-01-27 05:08:40

#4

Hurricane: Banned; +1,153|6902|Washington, DC

Kill: 2 points
Kill assist: 1 point
Capture: 2 points
Neutralize: 2 points
Cap. Assist: 1 point
Neutralize Assist: 1 point
Revive: 2 points
Repair: 1 point
Resupply: 1 point
Heal: 1 point
Destroy enemy command asset: 1 point
Team Damage: -2 points
Team kill: -4 points
Punished teamkill: YOU DO NOT LOSE POINTS. YOU ONLY END UP A BIT CLOSER TO GETTING AUTO-KICKED.
Command points: This is the average of your team's score. Take your team's score and divide it by the number of people on your team; that's your command points (I think, not sure if that's the right calculation). So that's why fighting while commander is stupid; a good commander means his team will get more points, which means the commander will get more points.

If your team wins a round, your commander gets his command points doubled. If he had 40 command points and wins, it's 80 points. THE REST OF THE TEAM DOES NOT GET THEIR POINTS DOUBLED.

If your team loses, nothing happens. You get the amount of points you had at the end of the round, that's it. Fin.

Sorry if you feel like I'm yelling at you with the ALL CAPS, because I'm not. I'm just making them CAPS to emphasize things

2007-01-27 05:20:24

#5

r'Eeee: That's how I roll, BITCH!; +311|6720

Hurricane wrote:
Kill: 2 points
Kill assist: 1 point
Capture: 2 points
Neutralize: 2 points
Cap. Assist: 1 point
Neutralize Assist: 1 point
Revive: 2 points
Repair: 1 point
Resupply: 1 point
Heal: 1 point
Destroy enemy command asset: 1 point
Team Damage: -2 points
Team kill: -4 points
Punished teamkill: YOU DO NOT LOSE POINTS. YOU ONLY END UP A BIT CLOSER TO GETTING AUTO-KICKED.
Command points: This is the average of your team's score. Take your team's score and divide it by the number of people on your team; that's your command points (I think, not sure if that's the right calculation). So that's why fighting while commander is stupid; a good commander means his team will get more points, which means the commander will get more points.

If your team wins a round, your commander gets his command points doubled. If he had 40 command points and wins, it's 80 points. THE REST OF THE TEAM DOES NOT GET THEIR POINTS DOUBLED.

If your team loses, nothing happens. You get the amount of points you had at the end of the round, that's it. Fin.

Sorry if you feel like I'm yelling at you with the ALL CAPS, because I'm not. I'm just making them CAPS to emphasize things

Thats cool, nice summary bro!
+1

Last edited by rabee2789b (2007-01-27 05:20:55)

2007-01-27 05:22:50

#6

Kukulcan: Member; +6|6572|The Battlefield

^*AlphA*^ wrote:
Winning team or not winning team

you will all get the points you earned in the round, the ones you see on the scoreboard.

the commander of the losing team and on the winning team have an average of their teams pointsBUT the one on the winning team get his points doubled (x2), the losing commander does not get his points doubled because his team lost.

I didn't really understood this part.... the commanders get an average of their team points??

If the first in the team has 100 points , he takes 50 and double them?

Morover : an enemy killed with an arty strike gives point?

2007-01-27 05:26:16

#7

Hurricane: Banned; +1,153|6902|Washington, DC

Kukulcan wrote:
^*AlphA*^ wrote:
Winning team or not winning team

you will all get the points you earned in the round, the ones you see on the scoreboard.

the commander of the losing team and on the winning team have an average of their teams pointsBUT the one on the winning team get his points doubled (x2), the losing commander does not get his points doubled because his team lost.
I didn't really understood this part.... the commanders get an average of their team points??

If the first in the team has 100 points , he takes 50 and double them?

Morover : an enemy killed with an arty strike gives point?

The average is calculated like this:

Look in the scoreboard. At the bottom of your team, you'll see a big number, 200 or more. It's under the same column where everyone else's points are. Take that number and divide it by how many players are on your team. That's how many command points you have in the round.

Arty strikes don't give you points, they do count as kills though.

Let's say you have 20 people on your team, and your team's score is 400.

400/20
=
20

So you have 20 commander points. If you win the round, you get 40 command points. If you lose, you get 20.

2007-01-27 05:56:44

#8

|Rawon: Buyakashaa; +31|6694|NL-NH-DH

Hurricane wrote:
Arty strikes don't give you points, they do count as kills though.

Okay and I know when I'm in a vehicle or Air Defense it counts as a Vehicle kill, but what if I'm just standing?
Or if i keep my Medic or Ammo bag in my hand? What category does it count? And if i hold my rifle how about that? if it's a kill, then how about the accuracy??? (These are all serious questions btw...)

2007-01-27 06:00:42

#9

OrangeHound: Busy doing highfalutin adminy stuff ...; +1,335|6921|Washington DC

The Wiki (see link on the BF2s main menu) is a great resource for basic information on Battlefield 2. You can find a validated summary of the scoring system here:

http://wiki.bf2s.com/stats/scoring-system

2007-01-27 12:40:06

#10

Kukulcan: Member; +6|6572|The Battlefield

I'd like to know another thing.... every killed enemy subtract a ticket to the enemy team?

2007-01-27 12:43:39

#11

The_Jester: Member; +52|6762|Italy

Not if he's critically wounded.
When 15 seconds expire and he dies, it's a ticket loss.

2007-01-27 13:49:50

#12

JetSniper: R.I.P [EPIC]Pfcguinn; +113|6608

in the olden days you could be a commander at the end and get double points but now its just double what points you made during commanding time if you win

2007-01-27 13:53:39

#13

Commie Killer: Member; +192|6658

Hurricane wrote:
Kill: 2 points
Kill assist: 1 point
Capture: 2 points
Neutralize: 2 points
Cap. Assist: 1 point
Neutralize Assist: 1 point
Revive: 2 points
Repair: 1 point
Resupply: 1 point
Heal: 1 point
Destroy enemy command asset: 1 point
Team Damage: -2 points
Team kill: -4 points
Punished teamkill: YOU DO NOT LOSE POINTS. YOU ONLY END UP A BIT CLOSER TO GETTING AUTO-KICKED.
Command points: This is the average of your team's score. Take your team's score and divide it by the number of people on your team; that's your command points (I think, not sure if that's the right calculation). So that's why fighting while commander is stupid; a good commander means his team will get more points, which means the commander will get more points.

If your team wins a round, your commander gets his command points doubled. If he had 40 command points and wins, it's 80 points. THE REST OF THE TEAM DOES NOT GET THEIR POINTS DOUBLED.

If your team loses, nothing happens. You get the amount of points you had at the end of the round, that's it. Fin.

Sorry if you feel like I'm yelling at you with the ALL CAPS, because I'm not. I'm just making them CAPS to emphasize things

You forgot Team Vehicle Damage: -1.

2007-01-27 13:58:34

#14

Varegg: Support fanatic :-); +2,206|7081|Nårvei

The commander of the winning team gets his score doubled but that only counts towards his command global score, the original score in the round (before x2) counts towards his total global score.

Wait behind the line ..............................................................

2007-01-27 14:46:36

#15

Kukulcan: Member; +6|6572|The Battlefield

The_Jester wrote:
Not if he's critically wounded.
When 15 seconds expire and he dies, it's a ticket loss.

So every death = one ticket less for the team?

2007-01-27 14:59:13

#16

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,981|6903|949

Kukulcan wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
Not if he's critically wounded.
When 15 seconds expire and he dies, it's a ticket loss.
So every death = one ticket less for the team?

No, every RESPAWN is a ticket loss. If you die but do not respawn, your team does not lose a ticket.

2007-01-27 15:01:49

#17

De_Jappe: Triarii; +432|6799|Belgium

Kukulcan wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
Not if he's critically wounded.
When 15 seconds expire and he dies, it's a ticket loss.
So every death = one ticket less for the team?

Yes, unless the guy gets revived by a medic.
If he don't get revived, the team loses a ticket too.

There is also something like ticket bleed: your tickets automatically decrease if your team has the least flags (less than half of them), or only the uncap, differs a bit on each map. So that's why you have to cap flags, to stop it from bleeding.

And if your team controls all flags and everyone on the opposite team is dead, the tickets drop immeadiatly to 0

EDIT: KEN, I don't think that's true. If you die you lose a ticket, usually it comes at the same time as respawning, but you still lose it, even if you don't respawn.

Last edited by De_Jappe (2007-01-27 15:03:01)

2007-01-27 15:04:05

#18

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,981|6903|949

try it some time when your team is low on tickets

2007-01-27 15:18:43

#19

(HUN)Rudebwoy: Member; +45|7026

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
Kukulcan wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
Not if he's critically wounded.
When 15 seconds expire and he dies, it's a ticket loss.
So every death = one ticket less for the team?
No, every RESPAWN is a ticket loss. If you die but do not respawn, your team does not lose a ticket.

I dont think so. You dont have to respawn to lose a ticket. If you are critically wounded( usually shot down, claymored, fell from a high buliding, parachute didnt open etc) then your team will get -1 ticket when the 15 seconds expire, not when you respawn. If you are not critically wounded but killed (arty strike, ran over, shot down during climbing a ladder etc.) then its an instant -1 ticket so you dont have to wait to the expiration of the 15 seconds.

2007-01-27 15:56:04

#20

Kukulcan: Member; +6|6572|The Battlefield

In effect in some games ,the enemy controls less flags but keeps winning.... i didn't understand why.

2007-01-27 18:18:05

#21

Skorpy-chan: Member; +127|6616|Twyford, UK

On the death-point-loss issue:
A respawn is -1 ticket, as it adds a death to your score for the round. Merely dying does now, if someone revives you.
Ticket bleed occurs when your opponent holds more than half the flags, uncaps included. It also accelerates depending on how badly you're losing.
You can fight back from ticket bleed by killing a lot of bad guys, and causing the enemy ticket loss to exceed your ticket bleed. Only a coordinated, proficient team can do this, though. Or a halfway decent team raping a bunch of losers.

These factors combine to make it so you have to fight hard and maintain an advantage all the way through a battle in order to win. If you slack and go to only one or two flags/get beaten back to the uncap, you have pretty much lost.

2007-01-27 18:46:35

#22

nlsme: Member; +48|6687|new york

Kukulcan wrote:
The_Jester wrote:
Not if he's critically wounded.
When 15 seconds expire and he dies, it's a ticket loss.
So every death = one ticket less for the team?

It is actually two deaths to lose one ticket. Not what everybody is saying that everydeath loses a ticket, it is TWO

2007-01-28 00:06:08

#23

Blehm98: conservative hatemonger; +150|6735|meh-land

Commander point system works like this

For every point someone on your team makes, divide it by the number of players alive at the time the point was made

so if there are 11 people alive on your team, and someone revives someone else
you will get 2/11 of a point

2007-01-28 01:49:27

#24

Rick_O_Shea678: Angry Engy; +95|7024

aTiLLa_NL wrote:
Okay and I know when I'm in a vehicle or Air Defense it counts as a Vehicle kill, but what if I'm just standing?
Or if i keep my Medic or Ammo bag in my hand? What category does it count? And if i hold my rifle how about that? if it's a kill, then how about the accuracy??? (These are all serious questions btw...)

Fantastic thread...throwback BF2s thread...good answers.

Arty kills in a vehicle...count toward that vehicle, IAR + global. Also count for the kit.
Arty kills not in a vehicle...count toward the kit IAR + global; do not count for the weapon/equipment you might be holding, so rifle/pistol/etc accuracy not effected.

Also...
Non-arty kills made as commander add to your global kills for kit & weapon/equipment (and vehicle, if applicable), but do not add to your score IAR.
* (Example, your score is 14...you shotgun two dudes in the face who are trying to blow our UAV...check score....still 14.)
* (Example #2, you are *owning* in a jet, you have 21 kills, but your IAR score is 15. Congrats, your global jet kills are climbing, but your team is struggling because you give them no UAV/supplies/direction. The "resign" button is on bottom right of your commander screen, if you know how to pull that up.)

Team points (ie flag cap, heal, repair) made as commander add to your global total, but do not apply to your round score and do not show on left side of screen.

2007-01-28 06:56:31

#25

Hurricane: Banned; +1,153|6902|Washington, DC

aTiLLa_NL wrote:
Hurricane wrote:
Arty strikes don't give you points, they do count as kills though.
Okay and I know when I'm in a vehicle or Air Defense it counts as a Vehicle kill, but what if I'm just standing?
Or if i keep my Medic or Ammo bag in my hand? What category does it count? And if i hold my rifle how about that? if it's a kill, then how about the accuracy??? (These are all serious questions btw...)

If you're in a vehicle it counts as vehicle kills. If you're just standing there with a rifle or knife out, it just counts as "kills". Not any weapon or vehicle, just kills that end up in your kill record.

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