cospengle
Member
+140|6948|Armidale, NSW, Australia
It seems these days a good GPU is as important as a good CPU (for gaming at least). CPUs are socketed so you can upgrade easily and choose the right balance of price and performance.

So I was thinking, would it be better if you could choose a video card (or motherboard with on-board graphics) and then choose what GPU to put in? Do you think this will happen in the future?

I think at the moment since the expansion card is the cheap part, it probably won't make much of a difference. But if graphics cards that support multiple GPUs become common place, that might change. The card itself could become expensive and it would be cheaper to upgrade just the GPU itself.

PS I did search but I really had no idea what to search for.

Last edited by cospengle (2007-01-30 16:06:37)

Brasso
member
+1,549|7092

I assume that it would be a good idea in terms of space, as one chip doesn't take up as much space as a whole card.  That would help with overheating problems, lack of space, etc.  But they would have to design a whole new architecture like the AM2 socket for GPUs, and that wouldn't equal money from consumers.

Edit: Here are some web search results to get your mind juices flowing: [url]http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&rlz=1B2GGGL_enUS176&q=socketed+gpu[/url

One thing I came across (and was surprised I didn't think of it before) is the video RAM issue.  Where would the video RAM go?  O.o

Last edited by haffeysucks (2007-01-30 16:23:24)

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T4rd
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+44|7138|West Point, NY
That actually did seem like a good idea at first.  But then imagine how much more surface area you'd need on the Mobo to support mulitple GPUs.  Because the heatsinks that would need to go on top of them would block off a lot of expansion ports or other various plug-ins on the mobo if they stayed the same size as they do right now.  There is a problem with high end graphics cards taking up too much room in PCs today, but there's no way around it until they have an insanely small GPU die size that wont require a massive heatsink to keep it cool.  Water cooling is about the only way to fix that.  But now with SLI 2 around the corner, heat is gonna become a serious issue for GPUs.  You'd know this if you had seen any SLI 2 mock-up pics with 6 8800 GTXs back to back on one mobo.  But for now, expansion cards make the most efficient use of space in the case IMO.
Mad Ad
Member
+178|6972|England, UK
the GPU (and its memory) need a lot of ancilliary components that change not only from generation to generation, also from company to company.

The power regulation for one varies a lot and there would never be one 'best fit', even if there was a 'generic close match' to some of todays cards, it probably wouldnt be adequate for tomorrows cards, therefore a simple GPU upgrade (which in todays pcs is an easy pci-e slot-in job) would mean renewing your motherboard.
Stormscythe
Aiming for the head
+88|7011|EUtopia | Austria
Well, like the others already mentioned, as long as bus speeds are fast enough, the current setup saves pretty a lot of space.
cospengle
Member
+140|6948|Armidale, NSW, Australia
I was also thinking that the socket could be on a video card so you can upgrade the GPU on the card... but anyway, if you're going to do that you may as well just replace the card.

I just read about northbridges in Wiki (I don't know much about how chipsets work). Apparently the northbridge could have a lot to do with video performance, maybe northbridges will soon be socketed.

All very interesting (to me anyway). Thanks guys for you input.
ReTox
Member
+100|6961|State of RETOXification
Stacked motherboards.  One for the CPUs and one for the GPUs.  Link them through optical cable.  It means wider cases but so what?  The CPU motherboard would gain space (more room for dual/quad/octa cores!) and so would the graphics board.

The graphics mobo would allow you to upgrade ram and the actual gpu chips the exact same way as with current mobos.  The main one only needs to sit an inch or two above the graphics mobo and the graphics one could have a massive cooling system.

I think it would work.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,077|7233|PNW

Multiple-core CPU's. You know, ones that make quad cores look like tinker toys.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-02-01 17:24:10)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6955|N. Ireland
You would need a "fatherboard!" You can have the best CPU in the world but have rubbish memory, and the same is with graphics. It is all the rage when a new card becomes out because there is new architecture and new cores etc, so you'd need an entire board. Almost like a second system in your computer.

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