crimson_grunt
Shitty Disposition (apparently)
+214|7101|Teesside, UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:

boston. prime example of the enemy winning. No terrorists here so people imagine them in the form of lite brite? don't they have all those smart people there? Like say one who could eyeball the mass of the little thing and know its not taking out a bridge...but then there I go expecting competence again.
Have you ever made a bomb?  Do you know you can make one out of ANYTHING?
True but i would have thought it you were going to blow things up the last thing you would do is have brightly coloured animated LEDs catching everyones attention?  If you were serious surely you would want them out of site?
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

crimson_grunt wrote:

True but i would have thought it you were going to blow things up the last thing you would do is have brightly coloured animated LEDs catching everyones attention?  If you were serious surely you would want them out of site?
Assume nothing is one of the first things the teach people dealing with explosives.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6851|North Carolina

usmarine2007 wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:

boston. prime example of the enemy winning. No terrorists here so people imagine them in the form of lite brite? don't they have all those smart people there? Like say one who could eyeball the mass of the little thing and know its not taking out a bridge...but then there I go expecting competence again.
Have you ever made a bomb?  Do you know you can make one out of ANYTHING?
Technically, yes, but let's examine the situation a little further.

If you are a terrorist and you want to kill a bunch of people, you're going to want your bombs to be inconspicuous...  In other words, not fucking noticable.  Bombs will usually come in the form of something simple or will be placed in an area not typically searched (like a trashcan in the middle of a crowded area).

They're not going to be flashing lights saying "HEY LOOK AT ME! I'M A MOONINITE!!!"

It's just that logic was completely thrown out the window due to fear.  I bet some kid familiar with the show decided to play a prank on his city by calling in a bomb threat concerning one of the signs, and then the police ran with it....

EDIT: And another thing...  How many terrorists probably watch ATHF?  Why would they pick an obscure show to associate their bombs with?  It just makes no fucking sense.

Last edited by Turquoise (2007-02-02 16:12:26)

SuperSlowYo
slow as you go
+124|7006|Canaduhhh.. West Toast

usmarine2007 wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:

boston. prime example of the enemy winning. No terrorists here so people imagine them in the form of lite brite? don't they have all those smart people there? Like say one who could eyeball the mass of the little thing and know its not taking out a bridge...but then there I go expecting competence again.
Have you ever made a bomb?  Do you know you can make one out of ANYTHING?
ANYTHING... dont you think thats a weee bit over the top? this is reality not macgyver time
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7118|UK

Turquoise wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:

boston. prime example of the enemy winning. No terrorists here so people imagine them in the form of lite brite? don't they have all those smart people there? Like say one who could eyeball the mass of the little thing and know its not taking out a bridge...but then there I go expecting competence again.
Have you ever made a bomb?  Do you know you can make one out of ANYTHING?
Technically, yes, but let's examine the situation a little further.

If you are a terrorist and you want to kill a bunch of people, you're going to want your bombs to be inconspicuous...  In other words, not fucking noticable.  Bombs will usually come in the form of something simple or will be placed in an area not typically searched (like a trashcan in the middle of a crowded area).

They're not going to be flashing lights saying "HEY LOOK AT ME! I'M A MOONINITE!!!"

It's just that logic was completely thrown out the window due to fear.  I bet some kid familiar with the show decided to play a prank on his city by calling in a bomb threat concerning one of the signs, and then the police ran with it....
Unfortuantely a culture of fear is prevalent in America, this sorry episode would give credance to my statment. for the love of god fight it you numpties, Ozzy B will be pissing himself (and into his dialysis machine)

Last edited by m3thod (2007-02-02 16:14:08)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

SuperSlowYo wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

golgoj4 wrote:

boston. prime example of the enemy winning. No terrorists here so people imagine them in the form of lite brite? don't they have all those smart people there? Like say one who could eyeball the mass of the little thing and know its not taking out a bridge...but then there I go expecting competence again.
Have you ever made a bomb?  Do you know you can make one out of ANYTHING?
ANYTHING... dont you think thats a weee bit over the top? this is reality not macgyver time
Well, if you can make a pen into a bomb, you can pretty much turn any man made object into a bomb.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7118|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

SuperSlowYo wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


Have you ever made a bomb?  Do you know you can make one out of ANYTHING?
ANYTHING... dont you think thats a weee bit over the top? this is reality not macgyver time
Well, if you can make a pen into a bomb, you can pretty much turn any man made object into a bomb.
Alright B.A. tell us how, gis us 80% of the knowledge.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

SuperSlowYo wrote:


ANYTHING... dont you think thats a weee bit over the top? this is reality not macgyver time
Well, if you can make a pen into a bomb, you can pretty much turn any man made object into a bomb.
Alright B.A. tell us how, gis us 80% of the knowledge.
http://www.punjabilok.com/punb2/full.ph … amp;more=1
crimson_grunt
Shitty Disposition (apparently)
+214|7101|Teesside, UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Well, if you can make a pen into a bomb, you can pretty much turn any man made object into a bomb.
Alright B.A. tell us how, gis us 80% of the knowledge.
http://www.punjabilok.com/punb2/full.ph … amp;more=1
That scary,  how strong would one of those be?  Are we talking blow up a bridge or like action movies enough to injure the guy holding you captive?
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7118|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

Well, if you can make a pen into a bomb, you can pretty much turn any man made object into a bomb.
Alright B.A. tell us how, gis us 80% of the knowledge.
http://www.punjabilok.com/punb2/full.ph … amp;more=1
You source is laughable.  In fact i had to read this sentace THREE times!

"The bomb disposal squad while examining the pen noticed some sort of vibration inside the pen which confirmed that pen was containing explosive"

WTF?!!

Last edited by m3thod (2007-02-02 16:33:05)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
SuperSlowYo
slow as you go
+124|7006|Canaduhhh.. West Toast

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:


Alright B.A. tell us how, gis us 80% of the knowledge.
http://www.punjabilok.com/punb2/full.ph … amp;more=1
You source is laughable.  In fact i had to read this sentace THREE times!

"The bomb disposal squad while examining the pen noticed some sort of vibration inside the pen which confirmed that pen was containing explosive"

WTF?!!
sounds to me like they found a pocket vibrator and just didnt know what to make of it... it was small, it vibrates.. bomb or dildo you decide...
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7047|132 and Bush

m3thod wrote:

Our competent security forces would have nipped it in the bud.  You know people that get the intelligence right
http://www.number10.gov.uk/output/Page275.asp
Chapter 3: The current position: 1998-2002

1. This chapter sets out what we know of Saddam's chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missile programmes, drawing on all the available evidence. While it takes account of the results from UN inspections and other publicly available information, it also draws heavily on the latest intelligence about Iraqi efforts to develop their programmes and capabilities since 1998. The main conclusions are that:

    *
      Iraq has a useable chemical and biological weapons capability, in breach of UNSCR 687, which has included recent production of chemical and biological agents;
    *
      Saddam continues to attach great importance to the possession of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, which he regards as being the basis for Iraq's regional power. He is determined to retain these capabilities;
    *
      Iraq can deliver chemical and biological agents using an extensive range of artillery shells, free-fall bombs, sprayers and ballistic missiles;
    *
      Iraq continues to work on developing nuclear weapons, in breach of its obligations under the Non-Proliferation Treaty, and in breach of UNSCR 687. Uranium has been sought from Africa that has no civil nuclear application in Iraq;
    *
      Iraq possesses extended-range versions of the SCUD ballistic missile in breach of UNSCR 687, which are capable of reaching Cyprus, Eastern Turkey, Tehran and Israel. It is also developing longer range ballistic missiles;
    *
      Iraq's current military planning specifically envisages the use of chemical and biological weapons;
    *
      Iraq's military forces are able to use chemical and biological weapons, with command, control and logistical arrangements in place. The Iraqi military are able to deploy these weapons within forty five minutes of a decision to do so;
    *
      Iraq has learnt lessons from previous UN weapons inspections and is already taking steps to conceal and disperse sensitive equipment and documentation in advance of the return of inspectors;
    *
      Iraq's chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missiles programmes are well-funded.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:


Alright B.A. tell us how, gis us 80% of the knowledge.
http://www.punjabilok.com/punb2/full.ph … amp;more=1
You source is laughable.  In fact i had to read this sentace THREE times!

"The bomb disposal squad while examining the pen noticed some sort of vibration inside the pen which confirmed that pen was containing explosive"

WTF?!!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/289485/bi … ary_stuff/

Try not to be an asshole for a change.
crimson_grunt
Shitty Disposition (apparently)
+214|7101|Teesside, UK

Kmarion wrote:

stuff.
Ouch using tony blairs lies against us   I don't know how much of that came from our intelligence agencies but I'm pretty sure Blair fucked around with stuff to get figures he wanted.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/comment/story … 05,00.html

Last edited by crimson_grunt (2007-02-02 16:51:17)

m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7118|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

http://www.punjabilok.com/punb2/full.php?p=659&more=1
You source is laughable.  In fact i had to read this sentace THREE times!

"The bomb disposal squad while examining the pen noticed some sort of vibration inside the pen which confirmed that pen was containing explosive"

WTF?!!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/289485/bi … ary_stuff/

Try not to be an asshole for a change.
All i saw was well edited video and listened to a wanky pokey soundtrack.  Show me a unedited video from conception to finished product.  Not that don't realise home made bombs are a reality.  I don't buy the James Bond pen bomb.

BTW I mocked your source, not you.  Seriously did you expect anything less with THAT sentence.

Last edited by m3thod (2007-02-02 16:54:29)

Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7118|UK

Kmarion wrote:

m3thod wrote:

Our competent security forces would have nipped it in the bud.  You know people that get the intelligence right
http://www.number10.gov.uk/output/Page275.asp
Chapter 3: The current position: 1998-2002

1. This chapter sets out what we know of Saddam's chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missile programmes, drawing on all the available evidence. While it takes account of the results from UN inspections and other publicly available information, it also draws heavily on the latest intelligence about Iraqi efforts to develop their programmes and capabilities since 1998. The main conclusions are that:

    *
      Iraq has a useable chemical and biological weapons capability, in breach of UNSCR 687, which has included recent production of chemical and biological agents;
    *
      Saddam continues to attach great importance to the possession of weapons of mass destruction and ballistic missiles, which he regards as being the basis for Iraq's regional power. He is determined to retain these capabilities;
    *
      Iraq can deliver chemical and biological agents using an extensive range of artillery shells, free-fall bombs, sprayers and ballistic missiles;
    *
      Iraq continues to work on developing nuclear weapons, in breach of its obligations under the Non-Proliferation Treaty, and in breach of UNSCR 687. Uranium has been sought from Africa that has no civil nuclear application in Iraq;
    *
      Iraq possesses extended-range versions of the SCUD ballistic missile in breach of UNSCR 687, which are capable of reaching Cyprus, Eastern Turkey, Tehran and Israel. It is also developing longer range ballistic missiles;
    *
      Iraq's current military planning specifically envisages the use of chemical and biological weapons;
    *
      Iraq's military forces are able to use chemical and biological weapons, with command, control and logistical arrangements in place. The Iraqi military are able to deploy these weapons within forty five minutes of a decision to do so;
    *
      Iraq has learnt lessons from previous UN weapons inspections and is already taking steps to conceal and disperse sensitive equipment and documentation in advance of the return of inspectors;
    *
      Iraq's chemical, biological, nuclear and ballistic missiles programmes are well-funded.
Ah come on man, if you read futher down i posted maybe i should change it to generally competant security forces....
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7047|132 and Bush

Just jabbing at ya ..
Xbone Stormsurgezz
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

You source is laughable.  In fact i had to read this sentace THREE times!

"The bomb disposal squad while examining the pen noticed some sort of vibration inside the pen which confirmed that pen was containing explosive"

WTF?!!
http://www.metacafe.com/watch/289485/bi … ary_stuff/

Try not to be an asshole for a change.
All i saw was well edited video and listened to a wanky pokey soundtrack.  Show me a unedited video from conception to finished product.  Not that don't realise home made bombs are a reality.  I don't buy the James Bond pen bomb.

BTW I mocked your source, not you.  Seriously did you expect anything less with THAT sentence.
If you do not think it is possible and plausible, then so be it.  I dealt with explosives for a few years, and I can tell you there is damn near nothing man made that cannot be turned into a bomb.  Believe what you want.

BTW, I am pretty sure a vid from "conception" to finished product would get you in trouble.

Last edited by usmarine2007 (2007-02-02 17:08:03)

crimson_grunt
Shitty Disposition (apparently)
+214|7101|Teesside, UK

Kmarion wrote:

Just jabbing at ya ..
Damn you this site needs a *shakes fist* smiley
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|7118|UK

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:


http://www.metacafe.com/watch/289485/bi … ary_stuff/

Try not to be an asshole for a change.
All i saw was well edited video and listened to a wanky pokey soundtrack.  Show me a unedited video from conception to finished product.  Not that don't realise home made bombs are a reality.  I don't buy the James Bond pen bomb.

BTW I mocked your source, not you.  Seriously did you expect anything less with THAT sentence.
If you do not think it is possible and plausible, then so be it.  I dealt with explosives for a few years, and I can tell you there is damn near nothing man made that cannot be turned into a bomb.  Believe what you want.
As much as i would like to investigate your claims further, i must stress i am from an ethnic background and newly gained knowledge; how to make a bomb from a pair of tights and some moisturiser would be me into her majesty's pleasure faster than i can blink.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7157|Sweden

Turquoise wrote:

If you are a terrorist and you want to kill a bunch of people, you're going to want your bombs to be inconspicuous...  In other words, not fucking noticable.  Bombs will usually come in the form of something simple or will be placed in an area not typically searched (like a trashcan in the middle of a crowded area).

They're not going to be flashing lights saying "HEY LOOK AT ME! I'M A MOONINITE!!!"

It's just that logic was completely thrown out the window due to fear.  I bet some kid familiar with the show decided to play a prank on his city by calling in a bomb threat concerning one of the signs, and then the police ran with it....

EDIT: And another thing...  How many terrorists probably watch ATHF?  Why would they pick an obscure show to associate their bombs with?  It just makes no fucking sense.
Sometimes the best way to hide something is to place it right infront of the seekers eye.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|7098|USA
My list of dumbest states would go something like this.

1.California, ( until LA and Frisco fall into the ocean)

2. Massachusetts.

3. The rest of the blue states.
usmarine2007
Banned
+374|6813|Columbus, Ohio

m3thod wrote:

usmarine2007 wrote:

m3thod wrote:

All i saw was well edited video and listened to a wanky pokey soundtrack.  Show me a unedited video from conception to finished product.  Not that don't realise home made bombs are a reality.  I don't buy the James Bond pen bomb.

BTW I mocked your source, not you.  Seriously did you expect anything less with THAT sentence.
If you do not think it is possible and plausible, then so be it.  I dealt with explosives for a few years, and I can tell you there is damn near nothing man made that cannot be turned into a bomb.  Believe what you want.
As much as i would like to investigate your claims further, i must stress i am from an ethnic background and newly gained knowledge; how to make a bomb from a pair of tights and some moisturiser would be me into her majesty's pleasure faster than i can blink.
what?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|7047|132 and Bush

crimson_grunt wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Just jabbing at ya ..
Damn you this site needs a *shakes fist* smiley
Luckily some can take it without getting angry.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
crimson_grunt
Shitty Disposition (apparently)
+214|7101|Teesside, UK

Kmarion wrote:

crimson_grunt wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Just jabbing at ya ..
Damn you this site needs a *shakes fist* smiley
Luckily some can take it without getting angry.
You also like the daily show.  Makes you cool in my book

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