BF2S Forums Do we get to goosestep in the next patch?

whoops, did I spoil the fun?

I didn't know EA owned the servers that I paid good money for, which in turn were paid for by some guys in a chair at a data center. Furthermore, I don't recall agreeing to any sort of rules regarding the ranked servers. I don't want to glitch, nor pad. I don't care about padders, they're almost as lacking of a life as those who care about padders. But I've seen a share of people reset in BF2 for seemingly no reason, and I'd rather not get banned from the game because one of the BFROE admin's children complained about getting killed a lot in 2142.

I mean shit, is PB gonna start hardware banning people for Insufficient O/S Privileges?

remember that really long piece of text when you installed 2142?

yeah.

By making a server ranked you must enforce the rules given.

SargeV1.4 wrote:

SargeV1.4 wrote:

SargeV1.4 wrote:

They are RANKED servers.

you AGREE to play by THEIR rules on THEIR servers. In return they track your stats.

The rules are there to keep the stats system FAIR. If you want to glitch, dont play on a server where you have agreed to play by EA's rules

it's as simple as that, K?

Okay I will Mister Sarge! (no sarcasm intended)

SargeV1.4 wrote:

whoops, did I spoil the fun?

Think you did ^^

Brizzzer wrote:

Hurrican you know sarge is right.  EULA and ROE is there to provide 2142 gamers with a fair way to play and if you want to play the game you have to agree to the EULA and ROE by law.  While this may piss you off and such they are trying their best to make everyone happy within the game.

You're right. I best better behave myself, before black SUV's show up infront of my house and FBI guys kill me for violating the law. That'd look bad on my Green Card application!!

SargeV1.4 wrote:

Hurricane wrote:

Brizzzer wrote:

Hurrican you know sarge is right.  EULA and ROE is there to provide 2142 gamers with a fair way to play and if you want to play the game you have to agree to the EULA and ROE by law.  While this may piss you off and such they are trying their best to make everyone happy within the game.

You're right. I best better behave myself, before black SUV's show up infront of my house and FBI guys kill me for violating the law. That'd look bad on my Green Card application!!

Tell me, how are you going to have to change the way you play due to the enforced ROE?

you say you don't care about what they're trying to stop - why bother, then?

Yeah, I'm more than anything just posting this simply to see people's opinions on it while sprinkling a meager attempt at wit on it I don't "break" the ROE so I shouldn't have anything to worry about. Of course, I don't break the law nor do I conspire for terrorism, but should I not be concerned about my government reading my mail without a warrant?

I'm serious though, I'll read the EULA. If it mentions clearly that I have to follow some sort of rules regarding gameplay, I concede to you

I think the ROE is a good idea, and kicks and tempbans, but not a hardware ban. I fail to see how a padder, who paid £40 for the game, is causing £40 worth of damage to other players, through his actions. If he isnt affecting other players, and is only increasing his e-status, why should anyone care?

I found a new useless sig statistic which is for the most part true but at the same time over exagerated

94% of all the people who complain about the RoE do not do anything in violation of it

1) i understand what Hurricane is on about, but the rest doesn't want to see his reasoning. You'll find out when your account gets banned when you where supposedly caught glitching. Where do you complain it isn't so? What are you going to do with the game you have bought?

EA/DICE may enforce the law because it's their server, but as stated earlier i do not want to be the victim of an account-ban because of someone who decides about it without me being able to do shit about it.

As long as EA/DICE prove they can't make a game without faults, let me be imperfect too.
Or else it's like saying 'I'm not perfect, but I'm the one who is going to punish you for not being perfect.'

2) What is everybody crying about when it comes to K/P servers? When i played Delta Force we had tremendous fun playing Knife and HK only. It gave the non sniper players a chance to prove their skills.
Sure it's ok to kill someone from miles away when he doesn't see you, but when it comes to facing your opponent it becomes 'cheating'?
Weird sense of fair play me thinks.
As long as people are on a K/P server i think let them be. When they gather on the edge of the battlefield with a medic and play the kill revive-game (although i don't mind that either) that's cheating.

If EA/DICE would have seriously want to stop this they should have taken out the medals and raised the point-value of the pins somewhat.

Mmm people do seem to be missing the point I and now Hurricane were trying to make, not naming names. But the point is not whether people would follow rules or not, obviously certain rules are needed, 99.9% of whats 'enforced' currently is not needed, it gets in the way of what games are about and that's just letting go and enjoying yourself. What the fuck is the point when you have to sit there and think "hold on is that against the rules or not?" fuck that, cheating and exploiting need to get you banned, anything else is up to an admin of a server to decide on, not EA not DICE not you not me.

TheEternalPessimist wrote:

Mmm people do seem to be missing the point I and now Hurricane were trying to make, not naming names. But the point is not whether people would follow rules or not, obviously certain rules are needed, 99.9% of whats 'enforced' currently is not needed, it gets in the way of what games are about and that's just letting go and enjoying yourself. What the fuck is the point when you have to sit there and think "hold on is that against the rules or not?" fuck that, cheating and exploiting need to get you banned, anything else is up to an admin of a server to decide on, not EA not DICE not you not me.

You do make a relatively good point, but remember how all of these "rules" come about.  Someone at DICE did not sit down and wonder how they could restrict play and annoy gamers.  Rules like these come down the pipeline when situations get out of control. Yes, it involves a relatively few number of people, but those few take a perverse delight in taking satisfactory gameplay away from the majority of the people.  It pleases them to annoy other people just because they can.

You ever have a guy in BF2 C4 your chopper?  Not because he wanted it, but just because he thought it was funny?  How about the ole J-10 whore who tosses a grenade into the pack, takes the J-10, then crashews it five seconds later; or worse, just flies it around the edge of the map?  The realy fun guy who runs around shooting and knifing all of his teammates?  Just one or two people can piss off half of a server, and their excuse is "I am just enjoying the game; I paid for it too, so I can play how I want."  This is how rules come about.

Statpadding works the same ways.  Okay, they get ranks and unlocks faster.  That means they qualify for commander faster, and can sit on as commander while they are AFK watching Aqua Teen Hunger Force.  Or worse, orbital strike their own team. Statpadding is just taking up space on your team, unbalancing it.