arklave
Member
+0|6785
http://www.iht.com/articles/2007/02/08/news/fighter.php

Aparrently dice was accurate in nerfing all the other jets and not the J-10 because according to this article its the most advanced fighter in the world.  I can imagine all our pilots bailing out and trying to steal these now ;D
Liberal-Sl@yer
Certified BF2S Asshole
+131|6903|The edge of sanity
The J-10 is not all its craked up to be. dont believe everything u hear or read my friend
psH
Banned
+217|6830|Sydney
Son of a bitch. I guess people can now stop bitching.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7154|67.222.138.85
Because we can believe everything coming out of China.
Djbrown
Member
+129|6943|Adelaide, Aussieland
Lol the F-15E was used in 1990, probably built in 1985 yet can still own pretty much every jet in the world except F22s. j10 is just good because its a multi-role plane, it can be a bomber or a fighter.
ShoopDaWhoop
Banned
+53|6779
IRL F35 Lightning II > Jian 10
RandomSchl
|\/|€|\/|߀|2
+52|6891|California
just wait until the F-35 is up in the air...

Last edited by RandomSchl (2007-02-10 21:59:56)

Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7139|Calgary
Made in China...........lol

Probably fall apart like everything else they make
nonexistentusmc
Member
+26|6892|Queens, NYC
The J10 is old technology. The F22 would've been old technology too if the Soviet Union didn't crumble. The F22 took 20 years from planning to development, and it's just starting to get operational. Just imagine how many planes the USSR could've rolled out in 20 years.
Parker
isteal
+1,452|6841|The Gem Saloon
i wouldnt entirely trust everything that china says about that jet, however dont underestimate it.

<waiting for spray and pray
Gravity
Infantry Whore
+37|7288
SU-35 i heard is one of the best in the world. but is too expensive to mass produce. Leasts thats what i heard, not 100% sure of how accurate that is.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|7112|NT, like Mick Dundee

https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/49/Sopwith.Camel_in_flying.jpg beats all in rl.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Reciprocity
Member
+721|7028|the dank(super) side of Oregon
oh no, the Chinese built a superior jet to our 30 year old F-16.  Whatever shall we do?
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6925|Communist Republic of CA, USA
Even if there plane is as good as they say, you have to look at Pilot Training.  The Chinese military advantage is in their numbers, not their equipment or training.
=MCHD= arush5268d
Member
+46|6948|Houston, TX

Reciprocity wrote:

oh no, the Chinese built a superior jet to our 30 year old F-16.  Whatever shall we do?
We should TK them for it!  Duh....
nlsme
Member
+48|6862|new york
If you actually read th article, it says that it hints to being "inferior" to th F-16. Actually read it people. Not only that, most of the parts are from other nations, and the design is based on a scrapped Isreali project. I'm not impressed.
nonexistentusmc
Member
+26|6892|Queens, NYC
China is like North Korea and the Soviet Union, always moochin' off of the next guy. Back in WW2, the Soviets copied our B29, then later on our B1 bomber. China and NK uses predominantly Soviet bloc aircraft. Neither has really created a very threatening aircraft.

And as mentioned above, pilot training is what wins air combat. You can have a noob green pilot in an F22, against a veteran ace in a MiG-29 and the veteran will always win. USAF pilots average 30+ hours of flight time every month, who knows how much China does. And the USAF and USN always try to do DACT(dissimilar aircraft combat training) with other nations, especially with nations that use eastern technology, in this case India.

The J10 is just some hyped up news article. And it's new, so that's why everyone thinks it's automatically the shit. No one ever does research anymore.
=MCHD= arush5268d
Member
+46|6948|Houston, TX
^^The TU-160 isn't shit compared to the B-1, IMHO.  TU-160 = Fail
stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7167|California

Its hard to make a new plane out of old Vietnam and Gulf War planes, isn't in China?
=MCHD= arush5268d
Member
+46|6948|Houston, TX

stryyker wrote:

Its hard to make a new plane out of old Vietnam and Gulf War planes, isn't in China?
Notice how short that pilot appears to be?

LOL...I'm goign to hell for that one.


But yeah, that's a ChiCom ripoff of the Japaneese FX-2, which is a ripoff of the F-16.  Nice.
agwood
Member
+18|7086|I Fight for Bush !!
The J-10 is based on the Israeli LAVI airframe - (never produced) and Russian engines - (pretty inefficient). The Aircraft itself may be "OK" but the real limfac is the pilot. The Chinese use the old Soviet style centralized control tactics so they don't have to spend a lot of money on pilot training, and as soon as we take out their "advanced" ground radar stations the J-10 pilots will be pretty helpless. US and partner Air Forces train their pilots to be independent thinkers and they are taught specialized tactics during exercises like Red Flag and others. The PLAF might be able to out number the US and her allies, but I find it doubtful that they with build a better mousetrap.. at least for the foreseeable future.

the Chinese built Su-30MKK could be a formidable adversary though,  much better aircraft than the J-10

thats the one to watch..

Last edited by agwood (2007-02-10 23:16:19)

stryyker
bad touch
+1,682|7167|California

Lets hurry up and invade Beijing so we can test the J10 vs the F35/22















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