[RU]Grmbl
Member
+9|6936|Russia
Overall design IMHO is OK, but there are other issues...

To me BF2142 maps feel too... well, "cold" may be the word. In BF2 all of the maps are somehow "cozy". I mean, when playing in BF2 you feel good, natural on any map.

BF2142 to me feel like you're in some unrealistic and uncomfortable setting - like playing on the Moon.

Guess it may change over time for me.

P.S. What I really DO miss in BF2142 - Kubra Dam.

Nothing gives so much adrenaline as trying to shake fighter from you tail by flying 10-20 meters over ground level around all obstacles (US uncap -> river -> under the bridge -> under the crane -> Dam (vertical near chopper spawn or inside the tube) -> vertical under the crane over MEC spawn -> over the runway -> inside the hangar (you may get up to 5-6 road kills per pass by smashing jetwhores) -> up and start high-alt evasive. And all of this at 800+ km/h.

When I managed to follow this route and not crash on the way (which was mostly the case recently) - only several times there were following fighters who did not crash.

Such thing is simply not possible in BF2142. Chopper is not suited for this.
{TL}SHARPSHOOTER
Vacuum Sealed for Freshness
+26|7187|The Island of Carls Jr.
I like the urban 2142 maps, especially with the addition of snow.
VANDULLIZER
Member
+0|6778|United Kingdom, Derbyshire
Belgrade is an awesome map... its balanced, offers plenty of cover/ camoflauge and it looks awesome...
it reminds me of Bastogne (ww2) especially when the orbical strikes are happening which is why i like it even more because its like a real battle that actually occured
Superglueman
Member
+21|6802|The Great South Land
i agree with coldsteel,  2142 is not as "realistic" as Bf2.

The first thing i thought about 2142 was that it isnt fun, its an annoying game most of the time(even if winning)
In fact it is shite compared to BF2, in terms of maps,vehicles,graphics,weapons,realistic gameplay,skill building,initial fairness(in maps) and FUN...the maps in 2142 are different, but it seems SuperNintendo like, i know they have body armour but they run and walk like robotic men(arnt they human?)...the guns hit anything you roughly aim at. BF2 you have to get hits on the enemy players actual body.
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Also, im i the only one whose gonna point out the FACT that none of the vehicles in 2142 are nearly as good as BF2 ones....
Bf2 was epic for many reasons, the jets, the attack chopper(w/proper guided missile) , boats, vast realistic maps, aerial battles ....
2142 tanks/apc's suck and are clumsy, same for the walkers, attack chopper is reduced to a transport with MG's(fugged if ANYONE can use the guided missile), basically they all suck compared to BF2.
True, if its the first online game youve played...it probably seems good, but otherwise is pretty lowbrow..

Doesnt take much to please some though, eat anything their fed....

Oh, and how bout' the nades, the character throws them like a homo and they fly like their a feather...lol
Superglueman
Member
+21|6802|The Great South Land

[RU]Grmbl wrote:

Overall design IMHO is OK, but there are other issues...

To me BF2142 maps feel too... well, "cold" may be the word. In BF2 all of the maps are somehow "cozy". I mean, when playing in BF2 you feel good, natural on any map.

BF2142 to me feel like you're in some unrealistic and uncomfortable setting - like playing on the Moon.

Guess it may change over time for me.

P.S. What I really DO miss in BF2142 - Kubra Dam.

Nothing gives so much adrenaline as trying to shake fighter from you tail by flying 10-20 meters over ground level around all obstacles (US uncap -> river -> under the bridge -> under the crane -> Dam (vertical near chopper spawn or inside the tube) -> vertical under the crane over MEC spawn -> over the runway -> inside the hangar (you may get up to 5-6 road kills per pass by smashing jetwhores) -> up and start high-alt evasive. And all of this at 800+ km/h.

When I managed to follow this route and not crash on the way (which was mostly the case recently) - only several times there were following fighters who did not crash.

Such thing is simply not possible in BF2142. Chopper is not suited for this.
BF2 just had those"did i just see that?" moments, 2142 does not, it star warsy space shit claiming to be battlefield.
Zefar
Member
+116|7091|Sweden

Superglueman wrote:

i agree with coldsteel,  2142 is not as "realistic" as Bf2.

The first thing i thought about 2142 was that it isnt fun, its an annoying game most of the time(even if winning)
In fact it is shite compared to BF2, in terms of maps,vehicles,graphics,weapons,realistic gameplay,skill building,initial fairness(in maps) and FUN...the maps in 2142 are different, but it seems SuperNintendo like, i know they have body armour but they run and walk like robotic men(arnt they human?)...the guns hit anything you roughly aim at. BF2 you have to get hits on the enemy players actual body.
>
Also, im i the only one whose gonna point out the FACT that none of the vehicles in 2142 are nearly as good as BF2 ones....
Bf2 was epic for many reasons, the jets, the attack chopper(w/proper guided missile) , boats, vast realistic maps, aerial battles ....
2142 tanks/apc's suck and are clumsy, same for the walkers, attack chopper is reduced to a transport with MG's(fugged if ANYONE can use the guided missile), basically they all suck compared to BF2.
True, if its the first online game youve played...it probably seems good, but otherwise is pretty lowbrow..

Doesnt take much to please some though, eat anything their fed....

Oh, and how bout' the nades, the character throws them like a homo and they fly like their a feather...lol
Lol you seriously ain't good with the tanks and such in BF2142. Seriously man the EU Tiger Tank is like a replica of the tanks in BF2 only that it got a zoom instead of MG. This tank can kill most vehicles without big problems on long range. Gunships dies in one hit by it and thus makes it more powerfull than the Tanks in BF2 as you needed like 2-3 shots to kill a Chopper.

APC don't suck, you do, it's a infantry kill and with a Tank help you'll be owning ANY lone wolf tank that comes into your sight.

Walkers, I can tell from your post that you havn't used this at all. But you are sooo wrong about it's power.
It maul down infantry pretty good.
Tanks/APC in Close combat are easily killed with some missle.
The AA turret totally helps you to block off any incoming air vehicle unless it's a transport that gonna crash into you but no vehicle can really stand againts that. The Gunship usually stay the hell away from you so you don't need to fear that one either.
The only thing you really need to fear is the tanks that use their Zoom on distance to take care of you but you can always walk away.

Gunship, well you used it once or twice and could rack up 50-0 with it and solo with TV missle which actually needs skill to use so you instantly goes "OMG it sucks".
It can kill ANY vehicle in the game with a full load of missle and those missle goes pretty straigh and it's not that hard to hit with them.
It kills infantry faster than you think but not as fast as the MEC chopper thou. The missle are homing while fighting againts air vehicles

Not to talk about that every vehicle except the little jihad jeep have a shield function to.

And now you actually need to shoot at the weak point to do loads of damage and that's something BF2 should get to.

As for them being clumsy No you just suck at driving them they are roughly the same in the driving part as in BF2.

Anyway about the maps in BF2142. I'll give you a hint of what kind of type of maps a "COLD Future" holds.

Snow, *gasp* you mean a cold future with snow hold snow *gasp* Seriously thou you complain about maps being to cold, well the main style of the game is to have a cold type based maps in the future and yes it's not THAT realistic but come on it's IN the future and nothing from there on is realistic.

Some maps that DON'T have snow based type.

Tunis Harbor
Suez Canal
Camp Gibralta

Well those are the ones I can think of. Also you can have those Gunships battle where they follow you. I have had it several times.

The infantry maps are way better than any BF2 so far and you can just hide and use so much more areas than in BF2.

I also don't know how you people can say that playing on BF2142 maps is like being on the moon. It's not even close to the moon.

But the facts still show that you guys wouldn't really like Future type games at all no matter how they are made. Specially if you have a cold based one.
Superglueman
Member
+21|6802|The Great South Land

Zefar wrote:

Superglueman wrote:

i agree with coldsteel,  2142 is not as "realistic" as Bf2.

The first thing i thought about 2142 was that it isnt fun, its an annoying game most of the time(even if winning)
In fact it is shite compared to BF2, in terms of maps,vehicles,graphics,weapons,realistic gameplay,skill building,initial fairness(in maps) and FUN...the maps in 2142 are different, but it seems SuperNintendo like, i know they have body armour but they run and walk like robotic men(arnt they human?)...the guns hit anything you roughly aim at. BF2 you have to get hits on the enemy players actual body.
>
Also, im i the only one whose gonna point out the FACT that none of the vehicles in 2142 are nearly as good as BF2 ones....
Bf2 was epic for many reasons, the jets, the attack chopper(w/proper guided missile) , boats, vast realistic maps, aerial battles ....
2142 tanks/apc's suck and are clumsy, same for the walkers, attack chopper is reduced to a transport with MG's(fugged if ANYONE can use the guided missile), basically they all suck compared to BF2.
True, if its the first online game youve played...it probably seems good, but otherwise is pretty lowbrow..

Doesnt take much to please some though, eat anything their fed....

Oh, and how bout' the nades, the character throws them like a homo and they fly like their a feather...lol
Lol you seriously ain't good with the tanks and such in BF2142. Seriously man the EU Tiger Tank is like a replica of the tanks in BF2 only that it got a zoom instead of MG. This tank can kill most vehicles without big problems on long range. Gunships dies in one hit by it and thus makes it more powerfull than the Tanks in BF2 as you needed like 2-3 shots to kill a Chopper.

APC don't suck, you do, it's a infantry kill and with a Tank help you'll be owning ANY lone wolf tank that comes into your sight.

Walkers, I can tell from your post that you havn't used this at all. But you are sooo wrong about it's power.
It maul down infantry pretty good.
Tanks/APC in Close combat are easily killed with some missle.
The AA turret totally helps you to block off any incoming air vehicle unless it's a transport that gonna crash into you but no vehicle can really stand againts that. The Gunship usually stay the hell away from you so you don't need to fear that one either.
The only thing you really need to fear is the tanks that use their Zoom on distance to take care of you but you can always walk away.

Gunship, well you used it once or twice and could rack up 50-0 with it and solo with TV missle which actually needs skill to use so you instantly goes "OMG it sucks".
It can kill ANY vehicle in the game with a full load of missle and those missle goes pretty straigh and it's not that hard to hit with them.
It kills infantry faster than you think but not as fast as the MEC chopper thou. The missle are homing while fighting againts air vehicles

Not to talk about that every vehicle except the little jihad jeep have a shield function to.

And now you actually need to shoot at the weak point to do loads of damage and that's something BF2 should get to.

As for them being clumsy No you just suck at driving them they are roughly the same in the driving part as in BF2.

Anyway about the maps in BF2142. I'll give you a hint of what kind of type of maps a "COLD Future" holds.

Snow, *gasp* you mean a cold future with snow hold snow *gasp* Seriously thou you complain about maps being to cold, well the main style of the game is to have a cold type based maps in the future and yes it's not THAT realistic but come on it's IN the future and nothing from there on is realistic.

Some maps that DON'T have snow based type.

Tunis Harbor
Suez Canal
Camp Gibralta

Well those are the ones I can think of. Also you can have those Gunships battle where they follow you. I have had it several times.

The infantry maps are way better than any BF2 so far and you can just hide and use so much more areas than in BF2.

I also don't know how you people can say that playing on BF2142 maps is like being on the moon. It's not even close to the moon.

But the facts still show that you guys wouldn't really like Future type games at all no matter how they are made. Specially if you have a cold based one.
....EAT ANYTHING YOUR FED.....
danCer
teh m0nsta
+314|7157|Germany
Every map is possible to win for any side.
PAC can make it in Berlin/Cerbere and also Gibraltar.

It's so easy, jou just gotta team up with a good squad and "kaboom" you'll win it.
Just make some gaming friends you can meat with to play together, support each other, watch the minimap, think logical, don't go sniper except you play titan. Play support or medic. Prefer medic, put the rockets and the defib on your kit, revive your comrades. If you don't have a commander let one of your buddies go commander so he can help you and talk you through while playing. Be sure you also go on a teamspeak/ ventrilo server and not only voip. Communication is the key to success, warn your players, spot them, if you see a whole bunch of enemies coming towards your direction then fall back get into a defensive position. As a SL be sure you keep your squad together and give them orders. that way you can also make a nice bunch of points while your squad attacks/defends. Also when attacking as PAC on Cerbere/gibraltar be sure you attack the flag that is the farest behind (EU base/Command Center), befor you go up to the flag  you put a beacon down before attacking the flag. put the beacon somewhere safe.
Master*
Banned
+416|6937|United States
Berlin Rape with clan
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madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7152|Sweden
Well Berlin is the most unbalanced map sure it´s possible for PAC to break but all EU has to do in the beginning is dropping down some lollermines to prevent an assault from APC + Walker and then it´s most likely settled. The APC on EU can completely alone stop any PAC from going through. Sure it´s beatable in a good squad but not necessarily the map is way to unbalanced to be fare.  And if i have to play Berlin i prefer it on 32 player servers at max, on 64 players first flag is just another Titan hallway on steroids.

Edit: @ Masterstyle can´t understand how people can stand to be raped that hard i normally gives it a round on a server if the teams are "superstacked" no fun playing when half your team desperatly tries to teamswitch the whole round.

Last edited by madmurre (2007-02-16 05:07:16)

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