BF2S Forums Solo Chopper (part 2)

DonFck wrote:

This is the exact same poll, wouldn't you agree?

The poll results in Ubersturmbannfuhrers thread are pretty clear. I don't think a little rephrasing will help.
I'll let this one stay open a while, let's see where the votes go.

No, he rephrased the wording to what he believes would show a more applicable result. 

Change the question to "Is it wrong to solo chopper when there are others that want to use the chopper too?"

Other wise you still have a weighted question... Ofcorse your going to solo if no one else wants to get in the chopper.

Can't believe everyone is whining such about it, what the hell is wrong with it? switching seats in cars, boats, tanks etc. don't make people whine.... so my vote is definately No.

This is just another question for people that are all pissy about the game not being 110% realistic.  Sure its unrealistic to switch seats in a helo,  but so is not being able to shoot your gun because you jumped, yet this is one of the things that had to get taken out.  Why?  It's simple people cant aim, and then they cry nonstop about how people jump around killin them nonstop (quit going prone everytime you see something!).  Either way, it's a damn game.  It's not meant to be 110% realistic.  You should be able to use everything in the game to your advantage (jumping, shooting while jumping, switching seats, but not hacking/ glitching).  The problem with this game is that they nerf and noob everything for the little children.

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Can we stop this please.

Solo choppering is a valid tactic, and now that AA can still lock on, is arguably more difficult than having a pilot and gunner.

What is the problem? I have over 150 hours in a chopper in which i came from not being able to take off (seriously) to being pretty decent now. I have learnt the tactics and learnt to adapt. Now, you OP have 20 odd hours and you feel ready to cry.

Please people, can we just stop whining and play. Its all the whining that has slowly killed this game with one nerf-erific patch after another.

So please, leaseon to Jesus,

http://www.sundancedesigns.net/whine.JPG

Though complaining about the G36E, in measured small amounts, is not considered blasphemous.

Amen

Its reprehensible.  People who fly choppers alone should be drawn and quartered.  Its all about the team, man.   The Team!!  Of what use to The Team is a lone-passengered chopper?  Its about half-useful, I guess; which is one-half-useful too little!!  How dare someone take off in a chopper without a gunner, thereby committing valuable military hardware to only half-efficiency and denying your team points.  OH GOD THE TEAM!!  MY LIFE FOR THE TEAM!!  BUTCHER THEM!! CONSIGN THEIR SOULS TO ETERNAL HELLFIRE!! RIP OUT THEIR INNARDS AND STRANGLE THEM WITH THEM BEFORE THEIR LIVING KIN!! NO PUNISHMENT IS TOO SEVERE FOR THOSE WHO WOULD DENY THE TEAM1111.

duk0r wrote:

And no, solo choppering is NOT harder its just as easy if not easier to take out targets. Ever heard of macros?

What do u mean macros, its "f2", then, "right click" aim fire. I mean if ya need a macro to do that you shouldn't be playing in the 1st place.

duk0r wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Can we stop this please.

Solo choppering is a valid tactic, and now that AA can still lock on, is arguably more difficult than having a pilot and gunner.

What is the problem? I have over 150 hours in a chopper in which i came from not being able to take off (seriously) to being pretty decent now. I have learnt the tactics and learnt to adapt. Now, you OP have 20 odd hours and you feel ready to cry.

Please people, can we just stop whining and play. Its all the whining that has slowly killed this game with one nerf-erific patch after another.

So please, leaseon to Jesus,

http://www.sundancedesigns.net/whine.JPG

Though complaining about the G36E, in measured small amounts, is not considered blasphemous.

Solo choppering tends to take away from the teamwork aspect of the game. I can't tell you how many times I have seen people take off in the chopper so they can go solo against, whatever...

Now if the ability to switch seats real quick in the attack chopper were removed, this would require the pilot to go find a gunner and go support ground troops by taking out enemy troops with his gun.

Solo choppering is just throwing fuel on the fire of chopper whores.

Personally I think solo choppering should be removed from the game thus promoting more teamwork.

And no, solo choppering is NOT harder its just as easy if not easier to take out targets. Ever heard of macros?

Wow, did you see how i managed to spell "listen" there?!

Anyways, here we go again.

You see the chopper on the pad, no one is around... oh ill just see how many times i can spam "requesting reinforcements" then, wating for a gunner.

You are in the chopper, taking off, some G36E wielding PFC with a 0 - 6 KDR comes running towards you... spaming "requesting a pickup" in between "yes sir" and "enemy boat spotted". What do you do?

1. You bite the bullet and pick the guy up, heck he may be ubez0r.
2. You promptly do your best to spin, and if hes does get in you head to the edge of the map or for laughs just bail and watch him crash.

Now, lets supose you go with Numero Uno. The guy could be Tving everything in sight, knows his hit boxes and is helping the team.

Or, hes the sorta guy that MGs tanks, and shouts "H4xx" (after finaly learning to right click and TV) when his TV goes through.

To be honest, a chopper with a decent gunner is much better than a solo pilot. But one with a shoddy gunner is next to worthless.

I tried macros with my G15, and tbh i found they made the process harder. I need to be in control, and in a fratnic firefight one slip of the finger could send you right click, left click, left click, left click, change view, bail... in a storm of macros.

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

duk0r wrote:

=Karma-Kills= wrote:

Can we stop this please.

Solo choppering is a valid tactic, and now that AA can still lock on, is arguably more difficult than having a pilot and gunner.

What is the problem? I have over 150 hours in a chopper in which i came from not being able to take off (seriously) to being pretty decent now. I have learnt the tactics and learnt to adapt. Now, you OP have 20 odd hours and you feel ready to cry.

Please people, can we just stop whining and play. Its all the whining that has slowly killed this game with one nerf-erific patch after another.

So please, leaseon to Jesus,

http://www.sundancedesigns.net/whine.JPG

Though complaining about the G36E, in measured small amounts, is not considered blasphemous.

Solo choppering tends to take away from the teamwork aspect of the game. I can't tell you how many times I have seen people take off in the chopper so they can go solo against, whatever...

Now if the ability to switch seats real quick in the attack chopper were removed, this would require the pilot to go find a gunner and go support ground troops by taking out enemy troops with his gun.

Solo choppering is just throwing fuel on the fire of chopper whores.

Personally I think solo choppering should be removed from the game thus promoting more teamwork.

And no, solo choppering is NOT harder its just as easy if not easier to take out targets. Ever heard of macros?

Wow, did you see how i managed to spell "listen" there?!

Anyways, here we go again.

You see the chopper on the pad, no one is around... oh ill just see how many times i can spam "requesting reinforcements" then, wating for a gunner.

You are in the chopper, taking off, some G36E wielding PFC with a 0 - 6 KDR comes running towards you... spaming "requesting a pickup" in between "yes sir" and "enemy boat spotted". What do you do?

1. You bite the bullet and pick the guy up, heck he may be ubez0r.
2. You promptly do your best to spin, and if hes does get in you head to the edge of the map or for laughs just bail and watch him crash.

Now, lets supose you go with Numero Uno. The guy could be Tving everything in sight, knows his hit boxes and is helping the team.

Or, hes the sorta guy that MGs tanks, and shouts "H4xx" (after finaly learning to right click and TV) when his TV goes through.

To be honest, a chopper with a decent gunner is much better than a solo pilot. But one with a shoddy gunner is next to worthless.

I tried macros with my G15, and tbh i found they made the process harder. I need to be in control, and in a fratnic firefight one slip of the finger could send you right click, left click, left click, left click, change view, bail... in a storm of macros.

I love you. No, seriously. Best arguements for soloing ever. Us soloers are the greatest players in the game.

Id go with choice #2 everytime. Nothing wrong with soloing and if someone is low ranked, 0-6, and spamming to get picked up i will spin like the tasmanian devil and get the hell out.


ps i have NEVER redlined ONCE in 600+ hours but have been on the recieving end many times....

globefish23 wrote:

Switching seats in choppers is the single most ridiculous thing in this game.
And don't tell me now that it's just an arcade game and no simulation. It's just stupid.

Dice should really remove seat switching for pilots/drivers during flight/driving in a patch.

So when you are driving a FAV or DPV, and a Heli swoops down on your, Dice should make it that you cant switch to the 2nd position and gun him down, unless you have a team mate in F2 seat? NO

globefish23 wrote:

And don't tell me now that it's just an arcade game and no simulation. It's just stupid.

Greeting Soldiers: Patch 1.5

Thanks to troop reports coming back from the front lines, we at DICE are pleased to announce new changes to Battlefield 2. By request of Gunnery Sergeant Globefish23, solo choppering will be disabled, and in our continued effort to increase realism, the death / respawn system has been completely remastered.

You are now allowed one death per CD Key. Use it wisely.

The DICE Team.


gg

yayz teh realism.

Its a game.

Play it and dont cry.

Last edited by =Karma-Kills= (2007-02-22 14:23:21)