The MEC chopper is not a piece of junk - I don't understand why everyone thinks it is. The guns don't fire as fast but they do a little more damage I believe. The solution is to cap the flag that spawns the USMC helo. Ta da. Or use the AA at the different helo spawns - usually the blackhawk is trying to cap mosque or the CP between mosque and the MEC main chopper spawn - definitely in AA range. If you're in a squad, 2 vodniks can take care of the BH pretty quick. Contrary to what you may believe, the BH on mashtuur is only effective if you have a GOOD squad with GOOD gunners and people repairing it from the inside - which is pretty rare.
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I agree... I even saw one time when a Spec Op put C4 on the front of the Z-8 and would bail and set it off... just kept doing this over and over through the round.[CANADA]_Zenmaster wrote:
The only way to take it out vs. a good squad is repeatedly ramming the Z-8 junk mobile into it. This is a pretty sad tactic, but the bhawk is overly powerful on mashtuur counter-balancing that. I always play usa and do the bhawk whoring as opposed to the Z-8 ramming, but the Z-8 ram is the standard technique and the only effective one I've had against my time there in the bhawk. Death upon you if you do this, but all's fair in love and war esp. when the map is that unbalanced.
Ever heard of teamwork?
Without teamwork the BH is down in less than a minute when the MEC team is halfway decent and it should be logical that you need teamwork to bring it down. You can't go rambo style and try to kill the blackhawk without any team support. The majority of the bh complainers obviously haven't understood what teamwork means.
Without teamwork the BH is down in less than a minute when the MEC team is halfway decent and it should be logical that you need teamwork to bring it down. You can't go rambo style and try to kill the blackhawk without any team support. The majority of the bh complainers obviously haven't understood what teamwork means.
True. Without Teamwork it's down like in Ghosttown, less than 20 seconds. But when I play Mash everyone runs to the BH and the pilot becomes the SL and everyone inside gets on his squad and use mics; that's just what I have been on and witnessed. And yes, the MEC chopper is worse than Fear Factor Food; contrary to belief, if you do kill anything with it, it's usually by Jihad or got lucky. The MEC is strictly transport; for us anyway on full servers. True the BH can be brought down rather easy with the Vodniks, but that is only if the BH pilot is on drugs.
The tank brings the Blackhawk down with ease, hit it with a shell and when the pilot shits himself to fly away, dive in the gunner seat and bring it down. I've brought many down in this way.
Vodniks and hummers are good aswell, IF you're in a good spot or have support, as mentioned above it takes teamwork really to bring it down on Mushtarr, Mashytur, Mistur, Mishtuur, Mistuur, Mashit and even Mashtuur.
And the shitbox is crap I agree, but it's a lot of fun if you have a pilot who is support and you as Spec Ops throwing C4 out of the back onto people, tanks and even Blackhawks.
Vodniks and hummers are good aswell, IF you're in a good spot or have support, as mentioned above it takes teamwork really to bring it down on Mushtarr, Mashytur, Mistur, Mishtuur, Mistuur, Mashit and even Mashtuur.
And the shitbox is crap I agree, but it's a lot of fun if you have a pilot who is support and you as Spec Ops throwing C4 out of the back onto people, tanks and even Blackhawks.
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OMFG that's genius! You could probably C4 the whole map given enough time... I would LOVE to see the entire map suddenly go up in one bigass kaboom.Esker wrote:
And the shitbox is crap I agree, but it's a lot of fun if you have a pilot who is support and you as Spec Ops throwing C4 out of the back onto people, tanks and even Blackhawks.
Sorry... you can only have 5 C4 on the map at the same time... drop more and the first ones dissapearTigrisJK wrote:
OMFG that's genius! You could probably C4 the whole map given enough time... I would LOVE to see the entire map suddenly go up in one bigass kaboom.Esker wrote:
And the shitbox is crap I agree, but it's a lot of fun if you have a pilot who is support and you as Spec Ops throwing C4 out of the back onto people, tanks and even Blackhawks.
Ub3r-Elite is correct...teamwork.
The BH goes down very easy with it. A good mec chopper team can keep the BH from taking off the whole round. 1-support as pilot, 2-C4 guys, 1-wrench. Every time the BH spawns mec drops c4 onto it and gets 6 kills for it (how I got my vet c4 badge). The other way is with a coordinated vodnik squad 2-3 vodniks focused on nothing but the BH.
The BH goes down very easy with it. A good mec chopper team can keep the BH from taking off the whole round. 1-support as pilot, 2-C4 guys, 1-wrench. Every time the BH spawns mec drops c4 onto it and gets 6 kills for it (how I got my vet c4 badge). The other way is with a coordinated vodnik squad 2-3 vodniks focused on nothing but the BH.
You shouldn't have any problems hitting a moving chopper with ANY weapon with these hacks you runnitro92 wrote:
i use the vodnik or humvee becos the stinger.igla sux cock always misses even if the chopper is just hovering there vodnik is the best
Wow...Just... Wow... This is why you shouldn't judge people on stats. Wonder why PB didn't catch this... on a Ranked server even..
Makes me sick. You know where everyone and thing is at. Wonder how many people have this cheat and use it enough to not necessarily make them look too good to get away with.
Anyway, Using your tank to blow a BH is extremely rare, if the pilot is in 3rd person view he'd know what's what. Not saying it's impossible, but rare. I've seen it to where one side has both choppers and laid havoc, seen where the BH couldn't even get off the ground, but it's a rarity that people work as teams on the chopper alone, they are concentrating to cap flags and ass.
Makes me sick. You know where everyone and thing is at. Wonder how many people have this cheat and use it enough to not necessarily make them look too good to get away with.
Anyway, Using your tank to blow a BH is extremely rare, if the pilot is in 3rd person view he'd know what's what. Not saying it's impossible, but rare. I've seen it to where one side has both choppers and laid havoc, seen where the BH couldn't even get off the ground, but it's a rarity that people work as teams on the chopper alone, they are concentrating to cap flags and ass.
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next to a TV missle shot from chopper or bomber....bs6749 wrote:
I have tons of screenshots of me taking down choppers (mostly MEC I think) with the humvee. This is probably the best way (vehicle method) of taking down a chopper. Tons of points from fully loaded chopper going down.
He can't post new info because its all old info. Helicopters (even attack helicopters) take MUCH more time to repair with the wrench. Sure the engineers still do repair the health but not nearly as fast as its being given out by a single jeep with 50 cal.imdead wrote:
I hate you chitlin.
I'm very, very glad you said 'most'.
I've read the latest patch and it said nothing about 'repairing'. Please post new info.
I still say the flying trashcan would be be even with the BH if they gave it 4 guns.
Mushtaar? Is it Mashuur?
On Dalian Plant I put 2 packs of C4 on the american attack chopper when it tried to take the flag BOOOOM. He actually landed on the ground next to the flag pole lol lol lolthe_ubernoob_ wrote:
I've never c4ed a chopper before...although I did pick up the kit of someone who died attempting it and wound up detonating the explosives he died to plant (I don't remember if the dead guy got the kills or if I did)
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