[DSMT]Jeawan
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+0|7124
ok looked at the stats on both weapons , now im asking you PKM are the MG36, i play medic and surport  mostly and was wondering do you find the PKM or the MG36 better for combat ?

i havent used the MG36 at all as i havent unlocked it yet , but is it worth the uinlock ?
someone25
Member
+1|7167
mg36...

couse the pkm is shit...  powerful... but you hit anything but your target
[DSMT]Jeawan
Member
+0|7124
haha that is true , how do you find the MG36 against choppers and other stuff ?
Octavarium
Member
+1|7130
Both have their merits - pick up a dead guys PKM and try the MG36 in SF and see what you think.

My summary would be if you prefer an AK over a G36 take the PKM and if you prefer the '36 over the AK thake the MG36.
theDude5B
Cool member
+805|7170
personally i would choose the MG36, but then again i really dont like the support class. all the weapons are highly in-accurate.

would have thought that they would be more accurate like what u see in movies when the guy with the big gun kicks mega butt
Silverwolf
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+0|7101
MG36, unless ur intent on taking on Hummers, trucks, n helos with it, in which case I'd go with the PKM. The MG36 has a 3rnd burst mode, but after trialing it a few times, I don't use it, if i want burst fire, I do it manually, but usually I just sit bac a bit with it and pump lead into a group of enemy soldiers with short bursts.
Octavarium
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+1|7130
In R/L they would be far more accurate than any of the assualt rifles - but also far heavier and bulkier, so DICE clearly chose balance over realism
someone25
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+1|7167

Octavarium wrote:

In R/L they would be far more accurate than any of the assualt rifles - but also far heavier and bulkier, so DICE clearly chose balance over realism
your fucking kidding me....
are you american?

ever shoot with an mg3? (german maschinengewehr 3)

this fucking thing nearly pulls out your shoulder, and your are the luckiest man if you only have to fire bursts...

and still... shooting at the range on a 20meter distance target you only get very few hits... 

i didnt talk yet about shooting 25 shots ore more in a row...  you will hit anything maybe the plane flying 3 miles above you but not the fucking shooting range targets.... believe me
Silverwolf
Member
+0|7101
haha, yeh MGs are designed for 'spray' fire, not accuracy. An assault rifle is far more accurate then an MG. The purpose of an MG is to lay down suppression fire, putting a wall of lead between the enemy troops and ur own boys, not for picking off guys accurately, thats wot sniper rifles are for .
fdcp_elmo
Rules over Sesamestreet
+5|7175|The Netherlands
who cares when you want to unlock the Mg36 you first need to unlock the PKM so then you got m both and you can compare
Octavarium
Member
+1|7130
the MG36 "IS" in theory just a longer barrelled G36 and therefore has similar accuracy, fired prone with a bipod it would be far more accurate than an equivalent Assualt rifle
Octavarium
Member
+1|7130

Silverwolf wrote:

haha, yeh MGs are designed for 'spray' fire, not accuracy. An assault rifle is far more accurate then an MG. The purpose of an MG is to lay down suppression fire, putting a wall of lead between the enemy troops and ur own boys, not for picking off guys accurately, thats wot sniper rifles are for .
Its not a MG anyway an MG would be more like the mounted .50 on the tanks, the MG36 is simply a LMG version of the G36, hence why it is far more accurate than the PKM which is closer to the description of an MG
someone25
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+1|7167

Silverwolf wrote:

haha, yeh MGs are designed for 'spray' fire, not accuracy. An assault rifle is far more accurate then an MG. The purpose of an MG is to lay down suppression fire, putting a wall of lead between the enemy troops and ur own boys, not for picking off guys accurately, thats wot sniper rifles are for .
taking the words right out of my mouth!
suppression fire - i didnt remembered the word - this was also a point i wanted to write...
in geman its called way different...    like:    keeping (the enemy) down   (if you would translate it word to word)
Coolbeano
Level 13.5 BF2S Ninja Penguin Sensei
+378|7183

Octavarium wrote:

the MG36 "IS" in theory just a longer barrelled G36 and therefore has similar accuracy, fired prone with a bipod it would be far more accurate than an equivalent Assualt rifle
in theory.
Octavarium
Member
+1|7130
Yep, I don't pretend to be an expert, but common sense tells you that if two guns which are virtually identical except the length of barrel, then the longer one will be more accurate
sparklet
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+34|7167|stop corecting my grammer!!!!!
i would go for mg36 i have it but if you wanna take out vechles you want pkm
mg36 has faster rate of fire like a saw but is more powerful
Erkut.hv
Member
+124|7154|California
MG36 is more accurate, but if I am in a hallway, and there si a row of bad guys, the PKM will cut through them like a laser. The MG36 uses smaller rounds I believe (5mm), whereas the PKM uses NATO std. (7mm). I think this is correct, but not 100% sure.

Also, the theory sounds good, but in bf2 is crap. barrel length doesn't help the MG become any more accurate than it's sister weapons.
LaidBackNinja
Pony Slaystation
+343|7128|Charlie One Alpha
Too bad suppression fire doesn't work for shit in BF2. In R/L, when someone opens up on you with a machinegun, you'll want to duck for cover. In BF2, you go prone, turn around, laugh at them while they waste ammunition, then shoot them in the head.
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DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|7101|Disaster Free Zone
PKM all the way, the mg36 takes too many hits to drop people. But make sure you never use it unless your prone. If your prone and the enemys within nade distance nothing beats the PKM.
Octavarium
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+1|7130

Erkut.hv wrote:

MG36 is more accurate, but if I am in a hallway, and there si a row of bad guys, the PKM will cut through them like a laser. The MG36 uses smaller rounds I believe (5mm), whereas the PKM uses NATO std. (7mm). I think this is correct, but not 100% sure.

Also, the theory sounds good, but in bf2 is crap. barrel length doesn't help the MG become any more accurate than it's sister weapons.
5.56mm NATO in all the G36's

7.62 in  the PKM


As for the accuracy - like I keep saying I don't want BF2 to be realistic I want it to be fun, i'm just explaining what the real life weapons are like compared to how they are in BF2

Last edited by Octavarium (2006-01-11 08:45:38)

vonSteuben
Member
+3|7122|Essen - Germany
I see it that the LMGs are mainly used for covering fire or suppression fire in real life.
This doesn't work in BF2, since it is a game.
In real life you would bolt for cover and keep your head down, since you wouldn't want to risk being hit by one of the many bullets coming your way. In real life one bullet is enough to take you out of combat (either killing you or incapacitating you or at least sincerly reduce your combat efficiency)
Your instincts for self preservation take over when someone lets go with an LMG, that is natural.

In BF2 you play a "toon" or "avatar" or whatever you would like to call it. No harm done if you get hit and actually "die". You will be back in the action 15 seconds later. There is no need for the instincts to kick in and make you go for a safe spot. One bullet from it reduces your health bar a bit. Two hits reduce it more. But you are still able to aim for the gunner and take him out with the more accurate assault rifle.

My impression is that the lesser accuracy in real life is compensated by the psychological effect of an LMG firing in your general direction.
In game the LMGs should be far more accurate, since that would give a certain psychological effect again. Many bullets coming my way + LMG is accurate = "GO FOR A SAFE SPOT" or "Die in a hail of bullets"
So accurate LMGs would be a suppressing weapon in BF2 as well (imo).

I for my part know, that I would run for cover in real life when facing incoming LMG fire, but in BF2 I just start looking for the gunner with the LMGs as they are.

See ya,
vonSteuben
dracul
Member
+2|7227
i havent used the MG36 at all as i havent unlocked it yet , but is it worth the uinlock ?
This si the only relevant question, sicne you have to have pkm unlocked to get it.

IMHO, yes its worth the unlock.

Its a LOT more accurate than the pkm, wich means you can hit ( and kill) people at ranged that your better of using a pistol over the pkm.


PKM is the alley/street fighting support weapon. good for mowing down people who cant get away.
The mg36 is more the open field gun, good for withering crossfires on people dumb enough to run into the open.

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