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Poll

How often can you take out a chopper pilot with the M95?

Every single time with one shot17%17% - 46
Usually everytime with multiple shots7%7% - 19
eh.....get some, miss some51%51% - 131
MAN! THIS M95 is SH**! I can't hit a g*dda*n thing!23%23% - 60
Total: 256
2007-03-20 23:47:33
notorious
Nay vee, bay bee.
+1,396|7011|The United Center

some_random_panda wrote:

I hate the M95.  It's inaccurate because of the wide sights, it's not ideal for moving target headshots and it's gotta be one of the loudest guns in the game (short of the tank and artillery).  Really, you get one shot and then you have to run because it's easy to track down an M95 user.

On the other hand, It's a good excuse for me to miss with it (damn sights are so ******* massive, grrr), and sometimes it comes in handy.

By the way, is it the only sniper that can go through windshields?  I remember headshotting a driver heading towards me with a M24.
Supposedly it's the only gun in the game that can fire through cockpit glass.

Although...I've killed pilots with AKs before.  SRAWs and GLs can also kill pilots but I think that's because of the seams in the glass and the splash damage caused by the weapon.

Anyway yeah, I can distinctly remember killing three pilots with the AK playing on Ghost Town after they tried to take off in the chopper.
2007-03-20 23:57:34
AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6727|A W S M F O X
SVD is way louder i reckon =P
2007-03-21 00:38:45
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6891|Warlord
I've had consistently bad "luck" with this, so maybe 5% of the shots I've attempted? Could be as low as 1-2% even.
2007-03-21 00:41:26
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6891|Warlord

some_random_panda wrote:

...the M95... gotta be one of the loudest guns in the game (short of the tank and artillery).

JET_G raidensen wrote:

SVD is way louder i reckon =P
Amazing as it may seem all sniper rifles in the game are the same volume.
2007-03-21 01:17:39
VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6656|Southern California

SplinterStrike wrote:

If he's on the ground with a cold chopper, everytime.
As for airborne choppers, I've landed 4 during strafing runs and at least a dozen during hovers or stalls.
M95 is awesome in the right hands. Mine are good, but not even close to perfect.
Same answere as that guy, though I'm probably not as good (actually I hardly play sniper anymore so I can't do very well at all) but a chopper as its taking off is the same as a standing headshot.

Hovering is a little harder, but if you play with the M95 a bit you have a decent chance.

Flying is hard as hell. I've only hit one chopper that was flying perpendicular to my line of sight, but Ive hit one or two more where the pilot is flying straight at you.

I killed dozens of smoking choppers with multiple shots. The range is pretty good so unless they can find decent cover you can usually land 3-4 on the cockpit glass before they can get away and those do 2 bars each....

Panda Im pretty sure the M24 can't go through glass, you sure you didn't shoot out a jeep driver?
2007-03-21 01:48:50
AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6727|A W S M F O X

Todd_Angelo wrote:

some_random_panda wrote:

...the M95... gotta be one of the loudest guns in the game (short of the tank and artillery).

JET_G raidensen wrote:

SVD is way louder i reckon =P
Amazing as it may seem all sniper rifles in the game are the same volume.
Interesting..............
2007-03-21 01:53:02
Ubersturmbannfuhrer
I am a fucking homosexual
+211|6870|Parainen, Finland
M95 is my Nemesis.
As infantry I fear it, even more entering a vehicle!
Always looking around for Snipers with this gun!
Respect!!!
2007-03-21 01:53:27
some_random_panda
Flamesuit essential
+454|6654

JET_G raidensen wrote:

Todd_Angelo wrote:

some_random_panda wrote:

...the M95... gotta be one of the loudest guns in the game (short of the tank and artillery).

JET_G raidensen wrote:

SVD is way louder i reckon =P
Amazing as it may seem all sniper rifles in the game are the same volume.
Interesting..............
Even the L89A1?  It just seems muted.
2007-03-21 01:58:20
AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6727|A W S M F O X
According to angelo here it is. But the firing sounds are all different, and therefore, some are louder, ther eis no way you can state the SVD has same shot volume as M24, or Type-88 has same volume as M95, one is CLEARLY louder than the other.


Unless, of course, you can show us undeniable proof.
2007-03-21 02:03:19
gene_pool
Banned
+519|6885|Gold coast, Aus.

Todd_Angelo wrote:

some_random_panda wrote:

...the M95... gotta be one of the loudest guns in the game (short of the tank and artillery).

JET_G raidensen wrote:

SVD is way louder i reckon =P
Amazing as it may seem all sniper rifles in the game are the same volume.
Noise compression. Technically its the same ''volume'' but its packing more into the short time, making your ears perceive that the sound is louder. In Australia (maybe USA, not sure) there are restrictions to noise produced in advertisements on TV, so you dont get blasted with 40000000 dbs of sound at 2 in the morning, so advertisements apply the above method to catch your attention.
2007-03-21 02:14:21
AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6727|A W S M F O X
So you did learnt hat useless fact for a reason, lol!
2007-03-21 02:15:17
Superglueman
Member
+21|6623|The Great South Land
The M95 is both loud and inaccurate unless its all u use....and then ur using aimbots...ive missed stationary targets 99% of the time...whereas the SVD, even with its multiple shots,  i can get far single headshots no problemo!!

The M95 is as bad/inaccurate as most of the weapons in 2142
2007-03-21 02:20:24
TimmmmaaaaH
Damn, I... had something for this
+725|6703|Brisbane, Australia

Superglueman wrote:

The M95 is as bad/inaccurate as most of the weapons in 2142
the weapons in 2142 are different, not inaccurate. Just because they have recoil does not mean the are inaccurate.........
https://bf3s.com/sigs/5e6a35c97adb20771c7b713312c0307c23a7a36a.png
2007-03-21 02:21:22
gene_pool
Banned
+519|6885|Gold coast, Aus.

Superglueman wrote:

The M95 is both loud and inaccurate unless its all u use....and then ur using aimbots...ive missed stationary targets 99% of the time...whereas the SVD, even with its multiple shots,  i can get far single headshots no problemo!!

The M95 is as bad/inaccurate as most of the weapons in 2142
2142 guns are more accurate then BF2 guns fyi. And aimbots can't make your bullets go 'straight' and eliminate deviation full stop, theres still random deviation. Aimbots in BF2 simply point the gun at the enemies face and hopes that rego/deviation works in its favour.
2007-03-21 03:22:14
CrazeD
Member
+368|6936|Maine

genius_man16 wrote:

theexterminator222 wrote:

m95 is a teamkillers weapon of choice on wake or some other air map. as for scenarios as described above i find the m95 to be the worst sniper rifle.  I'd take an svd or a type 88 over an m95 any day.
QFT!

however, i use it on SF maps because i don't like the SVD, well, actually i use the M24 if it's available, but i do use the M95 rather than the SVD, i just normally don't b/c i think it sucks

o well, as for the scenario, never happened, but i've had the option to do it many times... too bad i was using the L96 every damn time, lol
Man...

Every time I get an M95 and find a good hiding spot, I never have the chance to shoot people behind armor. I always just find people at long distances on the ground or something.

Then I get the L96, and all the bastards in the choppers come and hover right in-front of me, as if to say "HAHAH! YOU HAVE AN L96 SUCKER!".

I've only killed a handful of pilots out of moving choppers. But, camping jet/heli spawns I've gotten quite a few. I can usually get two or three guys out of the vehicle before they are able to just hop in and instantly start moving.
2007-03-21 05:49:51
Zukabazuka
Member
+23|6949
Well if you want something different, just get your friends and tell everyone go M95, that way you can blast a chopper, fast than he can react.
2007-03-21 05:54:49
ScoutStrike
Member
+37|6517
Heh, I'd have to go with "eh.....get some, miss some". I didn't really play much with the M95 until a few days ago actually. I was pretty happy about shooting three people out of choppers yesterday, but I guess that feeling wears off after a while.

Those kills weren't on the stationary type, so it took me a lot of shots, but at least I don't feel so helpless against choppers anymore (I almost never play IO).

Oh btw, hi all, first post.
2007-03-21 06:48:47
Todd_Angelo
Leukocyte
+336|6891|Warlord

JET_G raidensen wrote:

According to angelo here it is. But the firing sounds are all different, and therefore, some are louder, ther eis no way you can state the SVD has same shot volume as M24, or Type-88 has same volume as M95, one is CLEARLY louder than the other.
As I said at the time when I first brought this up, we need to define what is meant by 'louder'. Most people mean it the way I thought it was... higher in volume... but that's not it.

JET_G raidensen wrote:

Unless, of course, you can show us undeniable proof.
Of course. I was asked if I was on crack but as I said at the time, the game files are not on drugs

https://img485.imageshack.us/img485/4372/sniperriflesoundwavesfw7.png

As you can see, same peak volume for all. See how much smaller the trail off on the L96A1 is? That's why it is clearly quieter. I would have included the Type 88 but I couldn't find the sound file.
2007-03-21 06:53:51
AWSMFOX
Banned
+405|6727|A W S M F O X
God, i cant believe you actually did that............
2007-03-21 12:24:08
theelviscerator
Member
+19|6552

Todd_Angelo wrote:

JET_G raidensen wrote:

According to angelo here it is. But the firing sounds are all different, and therefore, some are louder, ther eis no way you can state the SVD has same shot volume as M24, or Type-88 has same volume as M95, one is CLEARLY louder than the other.
As I said at the time when I first brought this up, we need to define what is meant by 'louder'. Most people mean it the way I thought it was... higher in volume... but that's not it.

JET_G raidensen wrote:

Unless, of course, you can show us undeniable proof.
Of course. I was asked if I was on crack but as I said at the time, the game files are not on drugs

http://img485.imageshack.us/img485/4372 … vesfw7.png

As you can see, same peak volume for all. See how much smaller the trail off on the L96A1 is? That's why it is clearly quieter. I would have included the Type 88 but I couldn't find the sound file.
Nice job..

Seems anyone with a good sound card would know the L96 is quieter and harder to locate.
2007-03-21 13:15:57
=AM=Limey
Member
+2|6849
My best one was the shot described near the top of the post
Ghost town - North West flag.
Solo Pilot in an attack chopper hovering over the flag to turn it.
I was on the hill north of the flag, so pretty much eye level with the pilot.

One shot kill - chopper drops onto the top of the building in flames.
Credited with the kill as well as a flag defend.

I wish I had pressed the screen shot - but I can still see the image in my mind!

Killing pilots on take off - every time.
Killing pilots who are moving - never - unless they keep coming back begging me to shoot again
Killing pilots who are stupid enough to hover over a flag - usually.
2007-03-21 13:19:07
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|7014|Chicago.
Every single time with one shot.
2007-03-21 13:19:40
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|6926|USA
Some good shots being described in this thread. My reasoning for the poll is I am so fristrated with that damn thing. i am a ground pounding run and go type of guy, though from time to time a grab the M95 to try the ol cold-chopper-cheap kill tactic.

I can line it up perfect. PERFECT. I shoot and nothing. I have never taken a pilot out of a cold chopper. Im a pretty good sniper but can't hit a still target sitting in a chair. Frustrates the hell out of me. Good to see Im not the only one.
2007-03-21 17:45:54
Jornac
Member
+1|6644
Sound travels.  You have to be very close to hear an L96 go off.  You can be very far away, and you'll not just hear an M95 you will have a pretty good idea as to where the sniper is. 

I have more sucess shooting a helo out of the air with my M95 than I do taking out a pilot.  I mainly use the Anti Material Rifle to do what its named sounds like it should be doing, shoot shit.  Its always fun to take down a smoking helo, or total a car or transport.  Its aggrivating though to shoot a guy in the chest, or face for that matter and not kill him.  In all honesty he probably has an exit wound the size of a grapefruit in the back of his skull... 

Hovering, Ive killed a handful of gunners, 1 or 2 pilots. 
Before they take off, maybe... 1?
Moving, none; so I just keep shooting the helo itself. 

Its absurd that a .50 BMG (12.7 x 99mm) round going 854 m/s does as much damage as
a 7.62x51mm going 854 m/s as well...

Its twice as long... and nearly twice as wide... 

Its like comparing a golf ball to a wine bottle.
2007-03-21 17:51:38
TigerXtrm
Death by Indecency
+51|6632|Netherlands

If the only way you can get a kill is by waiting minutes at a time until you can shoot a stationary target out of a helicopter cockpit... you should not be playing this game, seriously. If it's not, then grab a fucking rifle and fight with any skill you have in a normal fashion...

Additionally, the M95 of BF2 does not deserve the qualification as 'Sniper Rifle' because it loses it's accuracy at about... oh what... 10 meters?

Tiger

Last edited by TigerXtrm (2007-03-21 17:55:15)

 

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