Sud
Member
+0|7016
Real throwing knives are tapered and perfectly balanced such that they actually have some lethality to them, and even then they can be unreliable. You might as well be running with scissors for this one.

An extra function for the knife should be something utility. Such as prying C4 off a target, or splitting open a discarded medic kit on the ground and perhaps having a health bag pop out

Last edited by Sud (2005-12-17 03:01:41)

H0ly(rap
Member
+10|6989|Nebraska
you know also to help the SNIPER class...

a silinced .50 sniper i mean arnt snipers usually silinced?, well then what gives??!!  none of the snipers in this game are really silenced so dont you think they should be silinced?
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6982|Purplicious Wisconsin

H0ly(rap wrote:

you know also to help the SNIPER class...

a silinced .50 sniper i mean arnt snipers usually silinced?, well then what gives??!!  none of the snipers in this game are really silenced so dont you think they should be silinced?
No they aren't usually silenced and it would unbalance the game too.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Aquastorm
Last of the Uchiha
+4|6981|Hong Kong, China
And you can't silence a 50. cal gun. Baka. If someone could silence a 50 cal. then we might as well have silienced machine guns and shot guns and for everything in BF2. A silencer on a assualt rifle - yeh...but not very feasible since you'll still hear a sound, the only true silenced pistol in real life are from pistols that fire sub-sonic rounds and the pistol goes into a "ammo-less" state and needs to be manually released.

Man, and I thought reading Tom Clancy books were a waste of time, but boy are they educational!

Last edited by Aquastorm (2005-12-21 01:32:48)

./KRUX
Member
+1|7006|Austin Texas
I just though of a nice function. WIRECUTTERS then u could break in to fence lines any where. HUH HUH what do ya think?
Freezer
Member
+4|6977
Throwing knives but once you throw it you can't get it back unless you find a supply crate and wait 15-20 seconds to reload the knife.  Give only once class the ability and leave it at that.  Give the Anti-Armor class the throwing knife but make a penalty for throwing it especially if you miss and it takes a long time to restock it like the zip and grappling hook in SF.
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+564|6982|Purplicious Wisconsin
Freezer that is the dumbest thing I ever saw posted.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
7h3647h32in6
Member
+0|6991

dobbs wrote:

I this would be better suited for a "Spy" class instead.  Sniper are silent but never meant to get deep into the fight.  More meant to stay far away and never be seen.  I would like a spy class that can disguise themselves as the enemy (like the blue-red bug) and have the thowing knives.
Yes, the blue red bug, so we can TK.



H0ly(rap wrote:

you know also to help the SNIPER class...

    a silinced .50 sniper i mean arnt snipers usually silinced?, well then what gives??!!  none of the snipers in this game are really silenced so dont you think they should be silinced?
Um... sir... You watch too many movies. That's like trying to silence a tank.  M95 has a muzzle brake, but that has nothing to do with a silencer. It's far too impractical to slap a silencer on a .50cal, expecially when all you'd be able to do is reduce accuracy and increase the recoil.

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pid=97779#p97779

check that post.

Last edited by 7h3647h32in6 (2005-12-21 17:32:06)

Operator_Stavros
Member
+3|7005
I hate being somewhat educated about the military and weapons, and then I read the forum boards and want to stick my HK USP in my mouth and pull the trigger....

At least one guy got it right when he said that the spotter is usually the more intelligent of the team.  The spotter is the one that knows and logs ALL balistics for the rifle.  He knows what MOA adjustments are needed to hit the target, he reads the wind and makes the calculations, the sniper does what the spotter says and pulls a trigger.  Not to downplay a snipers intelligence, both the sniper and spotter are to learn both sets of skills, just one is designated as the shooter.

Usually the spotter is armed with an M16 series weapon, with possible optics or accurizations.  Hardly a CQC weapon as defined by an MP5, or any submachinegun, or shotgun.  The spotters weapon should be able to complete the mission of the day if the primary sniper weapon is damaged.  An M16 with 500m effective range (600m with optics and accurizations) will do just fine.

Many of you dont realize how wacky ballistics are.  A shot at 800meters usually means a .308 round will drop about 60-80 feet before hitting the target.  That means you need to know that in advance and adjust your optics to compensate.

Also.  A sniper doesnt don his ghillie suit everywhere.  He is just another enlisted grunt or Jarhead with his M16 until time calls for his abilities on a mission.

Throwing knives is just another hollywood thing or Vegas show trick that should be left out of BF2

Silencing or suppressing a weapon means to slow it below the speed of sound, hencle lessening the velocity of the projectile it fires.  The lower the velocity, the higher the tendency for the round to deviate from point of aim, and the lower stopping power of the round.  Meaning the accuracy and damage suck for silenced weapons compared to regular rounds.

Silencing a weapon that still fires a round over the speed of sound will lessen the report of the weapon, but the supersonic crack still make the gunshot very loud.  The round must be below the speed of sound to make it worth silencing.

Sniper rifles are HARDLY silenced.  Even with suppressors, standard ammo will not fall below the speed of sound, making it useless.  Special subsonic ammunition is required, when used the gunshot wll then be effectively suppressed, but at what cost?  A suppressed .308 that usually is good for 800-1000 meters is good for about 200m effective range with subsonic ammo.  You do not suppress .50 cal period.  Supressing does not increase recoil, but can actually reduce it because the subsonic ammuntion produces less "kick" since it has to fire slower.  Certain weapons such as the MP5SD with integral silencer do not need special subsonic ammuntion to be fully silenced, the silenced does its job perfectly.

What would be nice is an option to laser designate a target for airstrike by the commander (separate and more accurate from arty).

Or maybe an ability so that a damn commander with his nose in his laptop cannot spot you in the best hiding place... but I digress

Please less misinformation on military weapons and tactics, its disgusting to read.

Last edited by Operator_Stavros (2005-12-21 17:39:34)

Aquastorm
Last of the Uchiha
+4|6981|Hong Kong, China
I totally agree, it's time to know that
1) Throwing knifes are a NO. 
2) You DO NOT silence a tank, a 50 cal. sniper rifle
3) You DO NOY put sub-sonic rounds in tanks and 50 cal. rifles.

Period, nothing to argue.

Eh, I think I posted this once but poeple don't tend to see my posts. [/sarcasm]
1234BGD
Member
+1|7018
Actually u can silence all the weapons - if u issue earplugs to the enemy

At some point of time I was quite into throwing knives (for fun, of course). Had 2 throwing knives all of different design. One was plain simple, rather hard to use but could get up to one inch deep in wood board with no particular effort. I could never hit target accurately on distance further than 3 meters with that knife. The other one had little weight in its blade and this weight you could move to change gravity centre of the knife - was cool because it would always hit target at almost any reasonable distance (like what you can clearly see with bare eye, not like dozens of meters of something). However the COOLEST thing and the most useful is to learn to throw an axe. It is thrown with the blade facing you and if you throwt it really hard - it makes huge "wholes" on trees and breakes woodboard as if it was made of paper.

However, the true quiet killer is the crossbow. Plus none of the standard body-armors can stop the arrows.... not that I know...
Freezer
Member
+4|6977

War Man wrote:

Freezer that is the dumbest thing I ever saw posted.
Oh What do you mean?  People are complaining about people throwing knives so I posted a legitimate solution making it less of a stats padding item and a pain in the ass by getting killed over and over.  The dumbest thing was the throwing knife that you can go pull out of a dead guy then throw it again that shit was whacked. 

Either way I don't care I will someday get my knife badge the right way by gutting someone who ain't looking or runs into the wrong person in an alley on Karkand 
Tjasso
the "Commander"
+102|6792|the Netherlands
2 bad we cant :Strangle , Kick feet , punch fists, throw people etc etc

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