BF2S Forums Diplomacy FTW!! (British Sailors Freed)

lol @ iphtnax - thats some funny shit, you're quare craic..

IG-Calibre wrote:

lol @ iphtnax - thats some funny shit, you're quare craic..

Did a leprechaun just hop into this thread then hop out again?

iphtnax wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

iphtnax wrote:

If you really had read the Qur'an, you wouldn't be disagreeing with me, unless you are some kind of hard lefty who treats their political views as a religion, outside the realm of fact.

So which one is it - you're lying about reading the Qur'an or you ignore any facts which get in the way of your 'leftism'?

LOL. It's funny how your views here are so at odds with the your views in the Kosovo thread. I read the Q'uran (much of it) - the issue is in how it is interpreted, much like the bible (which is filled with ridiculous anti-gay anti-female violent bullshit also).

Since Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the literal word of god, there is no [but in practice, very little] interpretation involved. If a verse states that "Muslims must not take friends of helpers from amongst Christians or Jews", that's EXACTLY what it means.

And when did this thread become about Christianity? Criticising Christianity does not somehow validate Islam.

And my views here are not at odds with my views abotu Kosovo.

bla bla bla bla, the same shit over and over again

[Conspiracy]Iran did it on purpose, then release them to make them look good.[/conspiracy]

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

[Conspiracy]Iran did it on purpose, then release them to make them look good.[/conspiracy]

[sarcasm]the whole world also knows this[/sarcasm]

CameronPoe wrote:

cyborg_ninja-117 wrote:

[Conspiracy]Iran did it on purpose, then release them to make them look good.[/conspiracy]

That's my current thinking.

Possibly.

herrr_smity wrote:

iphtnax wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

LOL. It's funny how your views here are so at odds with the your views in the Kosovo thread. I read the Q'uran (much of it) - the issue is in how it is interpreted, much like the bible (which is filled with ridiculous anti-gay anti-female violent bullshit also).

Since Muslims believe that the Qur'an is the literal word of god, there is no [but in practice, very little] interpretation involved. If a verse states that "Muslims must not take friends of helpers from amongst Christians or Jews", that's EXACTLY what it means.

And when did this thread become about Christianity? Criticising Christianity does not somehow validate Islam.

And my views here are not at odds with my views abotu Kosovo.

bla bla bla bla, the same shit over and over again

Wow, you just proved me wrong.

Braddock wrote:

lowing wrote:

Gee, howa 'bout that...........He IS an angel!!! roll Now to cap it off, all he needs to do is stop threatening to destroy Israel, and nuclear war.

It almost seems like you're disappointed this didn't turn into a hot war?

Nope, not at all, I am glad they are safe...... I just haven't forgotten that they were HOSTAGES, and not willing guests in the first place.
Not to mention the the Achmagertghjrtndadad is the sams piece of shit involved in the hostage taking at the American embassy back in 79.

Last edited by lowing (2007-04-04 08:54:52)

superfly_cox wrote:

no, no, no!  bomb them after you get the soldiers back.

so let's see.  some guy steals your dog out of your yard and then threatens to kill the dog because he claims that it was trespassing on his property even though there's proof to the contrary.  then he engages in a long winded string of propaganda events which even shows your dog dressed in doll's clothes blaming you as he begs for dog biscuits.  finally he says that he found it in his heart to forgive your dog...but continues to chastise you for being a deadbeat and irresponsible dog owner.  i bet 99% of you would not stand for this...

Diplomacy FTW...I think not.  I'm glad that the soldiers are going home and that's the most important thing.  But this thing is far from over.

This is called limit testing and it didn't work out so well for saddam.  Keep pushing Ahmedinejad...I'm sure its going to work this time.

Its over. The men were returned and forgiven. Diplomacy won. Sorry, no bombing Iran at the moment.

iphtnax wrote:

Here's what Tony Blair should have done: given the Iranians 24 hours to release the sailors plus demanded a compensation payment of £10 million. Should these things not be delievered, then the Iranians would lose a military base every four hours.

Well Rommell, you're quite the military tactician. Where did you get the arbitrary sum of £10 million from? That tactic, as fantastic as it sounds in theory, would have had one result: 15 dead sailors and a war.

iphtnax wrote:

War in itself isn't a bad thing. The bad thing is having to go to war in the first place.

Have you been in many nice wars then? I don't know how successful you would be convincing an Iraqi kid with his arms blown off or a Mother who's lost her son in the military of that theory.

iphtnax wrote:

You're ignoring the fact that the terrorists (Gerry Adams and Co) realise that they can now achieve their goal politically rather than militarily, but do you doubt for a moment that they won't go back to the gun if their political methods fail.

Decommissioning all your weapons and firepower isn't a good idea if you plan on going back to the gun (and btw the INDEPENDENT monitoring commission has verified that the IRA are in compliance with the decommissioning demands).

iphtnax wrote:

Muslims are like Terminators - they can't be bargained or reasoned with.

Bigoted generalisations like this only serve to show people that your opinion is not worth listening to.

iphtnax wrote:

However, should the terrorists ever succeed in stealing part of my country from me (ie. absorbing Ulster into Ireland), then I'll be the first to encourage the Loyalists to go on the rampage against the Republican terrorists and their enablers. If it worked against us, it'll work against them ten times as strong

I'm sure the Loyalist terrorist minority will take great heart in your words of encouragement. I don't doubt that WHEN we absorb the six counties (I say six counties because Ulster covers an area of Ireland that takes in more than the six counties btw) there will be a civil war but you have to face the basic facts, the strength in numbers lies with the Republic, it won't be long before there are more Republicans than Loyalists in the six counties never mind all the people from the South who would take part in a civil war. Or are you going to attempt another plantation? I don't think there would be many volunteers.

iphtnax wrote:

There probably ARE a couple of simpletons (with eyebrows on their cheeks, lol) in Ireland who believe that the IRA has got rid of all it's weapons.

iphtnax wrote:

Did a leprechaun just hop into this thread then hop out again?

Racism, the last refuge of an idiot.

EVieira wrote:

superfly_cox wrote:

no, no, no!  bomb them after you get the soldiers back.

so let's see.  some guy steals your dog out of your yard and then threatens to kill the dog because he claims that it was trespassing on his property even though there's proof to the contrary.  then he engages in a long winded string of propaganda events which even shows your dog dressed in doll's clothes blaming you as he begs for dog biscuits.  finally he says that he found it in his heart to forgive your dog...but continues to chastise you for being a deadbeat and irresponsible dog owner.  i bet 99% of you would not stand for this...

Diplomacy FTW...I think not.  I'm glad that the soldiers are going home and that's the most important thing.  But this thing is far from over.

This is called limit testing and it didn't work out so well for saddam.  Keep pushing Ahmedinejad...I'm sure its going to work this time.

Its over. The men were returned and forgiven. Diplomacy won. Sorry, no bombing Iran at the moment.

The bank robbery is over, no hostages were hurt. Negotiations won, no punishment at this moment. THe robbers are free to go.

Last edited by lowing (2007-04-04 11:57:15)

theelviscerator wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Ahmedinejad is lettin' em go!

He apparently forgives the sailors and is releasing them as a gift to Britain! Sly dog!

Sources and details to follow.

What were those helpful tips from the hostage crisis in the late 70s/80s? Guess we won't be needing them after all...

As for the other suggestions people bandied about - attacking Iran - guess what? Israel tried that with Hezbollah: and guess who still hasn't got their men back? That's right - Israel. This is a victory for diplomacy over stupidity/warmongering.

Of course the self respect of Britain is completely eliminated, having sucked up to Iran.



If someone kidnapped my child, then expected me to thank them for giving them back, they got another thing coming.

You just did the exact same thing.

What a complete Chamberlain.

Sorry for not starting WW3?