I'm very interested in getting Phase change cooling; but I'm not too familiar with it... I have a AMD 64 X2 4800+ Socket 939 Processor, Is there a phase change cooling system compatible with this setup? Thanks in advance.
I thought there is a smaller unit about 100 dollars?
PS. I'm not doing this to go nuts on over clocking. It's just that my computer runs rather hot.
PS. I'm not doing this to go nuts on over clocking. It's just that my computer runs rather hot.
Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-04-07 15:17:41)
oh, hmm those are the only one's I've ever seenReDevilJR wrote:
I thought there is a smaller unit about 100 dollars?
PS. I'm not doing this to go nuts on over clocking. It's just that my computer runs rather hot.
maybe try water cooling instead? Phase change brings your start up temps down to like -30ish degrees C...
and by the way kmarion if you see this, did you ever get one of these?? I thought you were planning to.
Last edited by CommieChipmunk (2007-04-07 15:19:20)
Like this; http://www.dansdata.com/images/pelt/peltier400.jpg
And then I put my own fan on there. (At least I thought it was Peltier Phase Change Cooling)
And then I put my own fan on there. (At least I thought it was Peltier Phase Change Cooling)
Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-04-07 15:20:40)
mmm I haven't seen one of those before. looks a little small to be a phase change cooler?
The final product should look something similar to this; http://images.tomshardware.com/2000/12/ … eltier.jpg
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/peltier.htm
http://www.heatsink-guide.com/peltier.htm
Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-04-07 15:42:43)
phase change cooling is not a casual solution to heat problems. that like flying the space shuttle to the store and back, a bit overkill.
Wouldn't an overkill on cooling be good then?Reciprocity wrote:
phase change cooling is not a casual solution to heat problems. that like flying the space shuttle to the store and back, a bit overkill.
if your a masochist. why is your computer hot?
the really cold temperatures cause condensation and can (and will often) lead to the mobo shorting and killing everything. phase change is only useful if you are looking for the highest possible oc'sReDevilJR wrote:
Wouldn't an overkill on cooling be good then?Reciprocity wrote:
phase change cooling is not a casual solution to heat problems. that like flying the space shuttle to the store and back, a bit overkill.
Last edited by max (2007-04-08 02:14:06)
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Try using a arctic cool 64 heat sink and then get a sansun galaxy ATX case. I run a oc'd opteron 148 with a 7600gs 512 gfx card which is passively cooled, i can run my PC for 48 hours and the CPU temp is averaging 43-48 degrees C, the Sansun Galaxy case has 2x 9cm front fans 1x 12 cm rear fan and a huge 25cm side fan, here are some links for ya
sansun case http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43156
arctic cool 64 heat sink http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835185125
These are seriously good products for oc'd systems, the heat sink is an absolute beast and is well worth the $30 if you have any questions PM me and i will help as much as i can.
sansun case http://www.3dgameman.com/forums/showthread.php?t=43156
arctic cool 64 heat sink http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.a … 6835185125
These are seriously good products for oc'd systems, the heat sink is an absolute beast and is well worth the $30 if you have any questions PM me and i will help as much as i can.
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Okay, I AM using Arctic Silver 5 for my thermal paste. My Computer runs hot (At least I think it does) because the back portion is being blocked off by my wall on my desk... I am going to cut that out soon, but I still need it cooler, It may be the PSU because that's what heats the top of the case, but it may be the fact it's a 550 watt... If I use Peltier Cooling, then I guess I'll over clock it to compensate for the "coldness"
Or it's the fact I run my games in 1600 x 1200 Res...
Or it's the fact I run my games in 1600 x 1200 Res...
Last edited by ReDevilJR (2007-04-07 16:20:03)
peltiers are energy inefficient - sure they cool but they use more power than the effect of cooling has - so while your cpu would be ice cold, your psu and the rest of the machine would be sweating its tits off.
secondly, anywhere that warm air hits something cold, you get condensation- not fun inside something with many electronic parts - the commercial pelts are wound right down so that doesnt happen but hey, why bother if its that low.
id think about how you could improve the setup you have - its amazing what you can do with some 120x38mm fans you know?
secondly, anywhere that warm air hits something cold, you get condensation- not fun inside something with many electronic parts - the commercial pelts are wound right down so that doesnt happen but hey, why bother if its that low.
id think about how you could improve the setup you have - its amazing what you can do with some 120x38mm fans you know?
Do I see an aluminum cpu heatsink?
Just get a nice zalman.
And make sure your case has 3-4 inches of free space on all sides
Edit: and get rid of those nasty ribbon cables and get some nice rounded ones
Just get a nice zalman.
And make sure your case has 3-4 inches of free space on all sides
Edit: and get rid of those nasty ribbon cables and get some nice rounded ones
Last edited by HeimdalX (2007-04-07 16:50:22)
I guess I'll start off with just clearing out the back area of the desk by taking out the back wall of it. that will free up a lot of breathing room. I think it is the high resolution that's causing the heat.
Just another thing, unrelated to original question, In a year or so when Vista has most of it's bugs fixed, would 64 bit processing be smooth with it? As in, faster gameplay etc...?
It already is. That goes with any 64 bit OS though.ReDevilJR wrote:
Just another thing, unrelated to original question, In a year or so when Vista has most of it's bugs fixed, would 64 bit processing be smooth with it? As in, faster gameplay etc...?
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Peltiers aren't phase change. A Peltier is just a "heat pump" that works by the "Peltier Effect" (Go google it).
Peltiers CAN be a very practical everyday cooling solution, but take alot of money to get setup properly. You have to buy a separate PSU for the Pelt (Pelts can use about 487w just on their own, and they need 24v to run at full power, not the 12v of an ATX PSU), the pelt itself, a water cooling system (To cool the hot side of the pelt) and all the mounting hardawre.
You also have to thouroughly insulate the entire mobo from condensation. You can do this by covering the motherboard with dielectric grease.
Phasechange units require the same kind of setup. The motherboard MUST be insulated to prevent damamge from condensation. Also, they use alot of power, and throw out alot of heat.
Now if you think that is overkill, go look at Triple-Stage Cascade, Dry ice, or Liquid N2 cooling. Now THAT is extreme.
www.overclock.net <-FTW
Peltiers CAN be a very practical everyday cooling solution, but take alot of money to get setup properly. You have to buy a separate PSU for the Pelt (Pelts can use about 487w just on their own, and they need 24v to run at full power, not the 12v of an ATX PSU), the pelt itself, a water cooling system (To cool the hot side of the pelt) and all the mounting hardawre.
You also have to thouroughly insulate the entire mobo from condensation. You can do this by covering the motherboard with dielectric grease.
Phasechange units require the same kind of setup. The motherboard MUST be insulated to prevent damamge from condensation. Also, they use alot of power, and throw out alot of heat.
Now if you think that is overkill, go look at Triple-Stage Cascade, Dry ice, or Liquid N2 cooling. Now THAT is extreme.
www.overclock.net <-FTW
Last edited by noxious89123 (2007-04-07 17:58:13)
Do Games (Like Bf2/2142) be capable to play on the 64 bit processor, or would it only run as fast as 32 bit processing? As in, was the game designed to be played on 64 but processors?Kmarion wrote:
It already is. That goes with any 64 bit OS though.ReDevilJR wrote:
Just another thing, unrelated to original question, In a year or so when Vista has most of it's bugs fixed, would 64 bit processing be smooth with it? As in, faster gameplay etc...?
QFT, I already was amazed by how many people replied to this thread, yet obviously not knowing what peltier and what phase cooling means.noxious89123 wrote:
Peltiers aren't phase change. A Peltier is just a "heat pump" that works by the "Peltier Effect" (Go google it).
Peltiers CAN be a very practical everyday cooling solution, but take alot of money to get setup properly. You have to buy a separate PSU for the Pelt (Pelts can use about 487w just on their own, and they need 24v to run at full power, not the 12v of an ATX PSU), the pelt itself, a water cooling system (To cool the hot side of the pelt) and all the mounting hardawre.
You also have to thouroughly insulate the entire mobo from condensation. You can do this by covering the motherboard with dielectric grease.
Phasechange units require the same kind of setup. The motherboard MUST be insulated to prevent damamge from condensation. Also, they use alot of power, and throw out alot of heat.
Now if you think that is overkill, go look at Triple-Stage Cascade, Dry ice, or Liquid N2 cooling. Now THAT is extreme.
www.overclock.net <-FTW
By the way, Sparkle has mounted a peltier cooler on their calibre series (at least guru3d says that), which does only consume 9W more than the stock cooling unit. So it's not that bad with power consumption.
But the price of the Calibre series 8800's isn't worth it IMO. It'd be better to buy a standard 8800 and setup a water cooling system.