BF2S Forums Why I Think Atheists Are Idiots

I've never really seen the behavior the OP describes outside of teenagers.  In my adult life (I'm 31 now), I've never personally heard another adult go on and on pushing their atheism on others.  What I do hear, and this shouldn't surprise any of you, is constant thanks to god for everything from the sun coming up again, to murders being caught.  I can't cycle through the channels on my TV without hitting several religious stations and programs.  I can't search radio from one end to the other without finding religious stations.  Hell, I can't go a week without getting Christian stuff in my mailbox.  Hardly a day goes by that I don't have someone around me talking about the great things their lord has done for them lately.  I guess I just fail to see the big push of atheists coming out of the theological closet.

For a single atheist's example, I don't normally speak of religion at all in my personal life.  I periodically post in a thread here and there, but that's it.  I personally feel that I don't need the bias that I would have to deal with if I were completely open about it.  All of my family are Christian, and only a couple even know my stance on things.  Why should they?  After all, it would only upset them, and if there's one truth in the world, it's that there is no argument that defeats faith when that faith is considered an acceptable rebuttal to ANY point.  I couldn't console them in any way.  It would just suck.  At work, animosity is the enemy.  I work with those people everyday, and the very last thing I need is to need to keep up with who is a judgemental bastard and who isn't.  There are hundreds of them, and I deal with each and every one.  It's just not feasible.  Far easier to just nod and smile and never offer an opinion on religious comments.  People are evil things, we all see the stupid shit that we hold against one another.  I don't need that in my life if at all possible.  I'm perfectly happy to live the rest of my life like this.

I've got no problem with someone being religious.  Do whatever you need to do to get you through life as happy as can be.  That being said, if you could find it in yourself to do so, please knock off all that evil and hypocrisy.  Watching the news makes babies cry.

rawls wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

rawls wrote:

Zuul? Wasn't he from Ghostbusters? Anyways, those two girls may think they religious but when they die they'll find out the truth, Unless they repent for their sins then they jsut have to spend a couple thousand years in purgatory then they can be let into heaven. And no they don't have to kill any jews to get into heaven.

So would it be considered a sin if someone had an abortion to save her own life? (in the case where the mother stands a high chance of dying during childbirth)

The old "What if the mommas going to die" excuse. If I was the real God I would allow it. If I was an  Islamic God then the women would have to die. Thats why my God rules.

Your interpretation of God at least makes more sense...

Excellent points, inner monkey!

I don't want conformity, I don't want people to all believe the same things. That is hopelessly foolish, never gonna happen!

However, if you look for it, you will find a HUUUUGE base of atheist discussion and outcry in the public media. The reason for this is because a lot of people in power act in a manner that refers to what I was just talking about... conformity.

In my home state, I have an elected official who is spending tax dollars on her own American prayer movement functions. That is money that was forcibly taken to me and given to a cause that I do not endorse.

Granted, I didn't vote for her. The majority did. And there is nothing more oppressive than the logic of majority rule.

Counter-strike players FAR outnumber BF2 players.... what if there was a vote of all games on which game is the best, and the RIGHT game to play? BF2 players would be the minority and the rights to do what they want would be stripped.

Democracy is a dictatorship, with the majority being the dictator.

Religion works for some people, it really does. I am not going to try to take that away from anyone.

My counter to your statement is that, even though you don't see it, there are lots and lots and lots of atheists out there who are being oppressed today just as the christians were oppressed two thousand years ago...

Turquoise wrote:

Well, I seriously doubt the Pope (or most of the clergy, for that matter) have ever talked to God either -- if God exists in the first place....

Oh MAN!

This is why I love the mormon church so much. *sarcasm*

Their prophets talk to god and god tells them that rated R movies are bad.

I'm glad their god is putting more emphasis on film content then on... you know... genocide.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

...all you have to do is be a moral person who values life and respects those as he would like to be respected...

That little snippet is the big thing I'm always telling myself while watching the world around me.  Just be good damnit!  Why can't people just be good people because it's the right thing to do?

Turquoise wrote:

Boomerjinks wrote:

Democracy is a dictatorship, with the majority being the dictator.

Great quote.... 

Yeah!! I'm a dictator. First rule of business, ban athiests.

God I hate these threads.

Doesn't anyone ever realize that you don't convert people's views when you make an anti-religion / anti-atheism thread, you just make yourself seem like a total dickhead who can't accept anything but what you yourself believe.

Atheists don't believe in god. Other people do. Get used to it, nothing is ever going to change.

And before you ask, no, I did not read all five pages of people arguing that they are the one who is correct.

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rawls wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Boomerjinks wrote:

Democracy is a dictatorship, with the majority being the dictator.

Great quote.... 

Yeah!! I'm a dictator. First rule of business, ban athiests.

Huh?

rawls wrote:

Well I live in a democracy so if I = democracy; and democracy = dictatorship; then  I = dictator.

If you make up part of the majority on a given issue, then yes.

link52787 wrote:

sigh, another one of these threads.

You can believe in a god or what ever makes you feel better about your existence in this world or not.

There are going to be religious and atheists idiots who make these threads , bashing each other.

stupid.

close this crap

if you don't like a thread, don't contribute.  Your opinion isn't the only valuable opinion; if you think a topic is worthless, ignore it.

Boomerjinks:

I agree with your points.

My comments were about what I experience in meatspace in my everyday life.  I didn't mean to imply that I didn't see the increase in volume from the atheist masses.  I live in a VERY religious area.  There are no less than 6 churches within a 1/2 mile from my house.  Over a dozen if you go out a mile.  I would be surprised if less than 98% of households in the area I live are religious.

I see the oppression of atheists and Christians alike.  Religions typically don't like each other, so atheists aren't alone there.  All it really takes is someone being different than the other guy, and there's an automatic bias.  Atheists are an easier target though, as they go against the very foundation of all religion.  All minorities are oppressed.  Mob rule and all that...  My hope is that change is slowly happening, at least in the U.S.  Looking back through the country's short history, it's amazing really.  People are much more tolerant today.  I can't imagine how much better it could be in 5-10 generations.  That is, if we don't destroy ourselves before then.

Yay Cougar for make funny postings!

KiL

Boomerjinks wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Maybe if you would stop posting "?????????" every 15 seconds and read, you would know that.

I posted that once.

So already we have going for you:

-Overreliance on vulgarity and bullying. (Rather, defending my point of view.  Notice I said my point of view.  Also notice where I stated "Why I Think Atheists Are Idiots.  So when I don't heel to you all knowing wisdom and try and defend my fucking views from your repeated flames and petty attacks, such as this, I'm a fucking bully?  Fuck you.)

-Contradictions in argument.(I see none, but I noticed that you repeatedly point out one sentence but I've explained the meaning behind it several times, so if you still don't understand the metaphorical or possibly even plain vocabulary meaning of the phrase, then thats your own failing.)

-Denial of the definitions of words.(Yeah, whatever.  Show me.)

-Meaningless exaggerration(You've obviously never read anything I've ever posted.  Also, I think your meaningless pursuit of my ideals and beliefs is quite hypocritical.)

You are racking up quite the clout as a cunning debater (And you sir are racking up quite the clout as being a cunt of a debater)