BF2S Forums ummm, stats no adding up? or am i missing something

Commander?

i dunno if commander kills via arty are tallied

i know normal kills are

besides that i can't see how it's rounding, because it would have to be rounded to the nearest 2% for a 2% discrepancy, if it was 1% i would say maybe...

i'm wondering if those are kills when say, i'm in the mi-28 and blow the cobra down to 2 bars and it burns and you get the message

"So'n'so [killed] theotherguy1"
"So'n'so [killed] theotherguy2"

even more likely it could be the same situation except i've sniped a burning chopper with m95 or something and it says

"So'n'so [mi-28] theotherguy"
"So'n'so [mi-28] theotherguy"

perhaps i get credit for 2 sniper kills AND two chopper kills, that kinda thing could certainly add up to that amount in the time i've played

Last edited by IntrebuloN (2006-09-26 03:07:57)

http://bf2s.com/player/78939470/

look the plane % of total kills... lol..

rofl , wtf?

You don't get credit for rams in your total kills. but they do count for your vehicle kills

you have 684 kills in a plane, 58 of them are road kills (rams) leaving 626 that count for your total kills

You have 2 kills in transport, 1 of them is a road kill, leaving 1 kill in a transport, you have 12 kills with regular weapons.

626
  1
+12
=====
639

Road kills are bonus kills, that will affect your %, but they don't count for overall stats, or awards. (cept the transport badge that requires 5 road kills)

Ok here is a new thought line, that seems to be plausible, but no way to prove it.  Seems to carry through on my test cases.  What if you don't get to count your road kills that resulted in your own suicide as well.  In your Example he has 622 suicides, if just for the sake of argument, 618 of those resulted in road kills that he didn't get credit for, maybe because he was dead when the kill was scored.  Could also possibly be caused by a claymore that went off post Mortam?  Just brainstorming here.

Mmmm... Scoring is pretty wicked....

For instance, I have 40.000 kills (roughly), 18K has been infantry style, 13K has been with vehicles. So you'd naturally assume that the LAST 9K would be arty, right ? Well, NO.... If I'm IN a transport while getting an arty kill, it counts towards kills in a transport.
While YOUR example, and the guy flying are the "rare" cases, the majority of players will have a higher "total kills" than their inf+vehicle kills combined, even the ones who have never commanded !

This is not unusual. If you add up your combat score + teamwork score, you do NOT get your total score... Confused ? You're supposed to be. The thing is that SOME stuff is NOT in the stats feed. What exactly is missing, I cannot say, but for certain, you still get points for example neutralize and strategic destruction. However, these points are not in the feed.
The same thing goes for your kills. Some kills are NOT in the feed. However, I cannot say for certain which ones aren't. However, my kill with a LADDER hasn't shown up anywhere... Identifying all of the types of kills that might not show up, would require extensive testing, and while I'm not one to shy away from a challenge, I just dont WANT to spend the time wondering or learning. I just accept that things are NOT perfect, and move on, play the game and have fun !



Edit:

=Robin-Hood= wrote:

Seemed my first conclusion too... but...

Explain this:
Total kills      13,634
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Weapon kills    5,678
Vehicle kills  + 8,484
Road kills    - 1,146
_________________
Gives me:    13,016

Where is the missing 618 ?

Sorry mate, there is no logic.

(I deliberately searched for someone with no commander time, so to not have to take that into account)

Why would you SUBTRACT his roadkills ? They count just as much as other kills. In reality, you do not have a problem with not enough kills, you have a problem with TOO MANY ! So if you do NOT subtract his road kills, he has 528 kills that are NOT made with kits (while dead ?) or in vehicles.

Last edited by Twist (2006-09-26 14:18:31)

Sorry Robin-Hood, I DO realize that you were not the "first person" to claim that roadkills dont count. In fact, it's pretty unclear if you're defending the theory, or attacking it.

While I LOATHE to have to say this, I can't really take Shadovve's word for the part about the road kills, not with him being a lowly sergant, and especially, when all my experience tells me otherwise !

Untill someone "prooves" otherwise, I'll continue to believe that any problems with the stats in BF2/BF2S is caused by incomplete feeds, not trouble with the scoring concept or problems on this site. The fact that EA/Dice has NOT released the specific details about every aspect of the game may be because of their own ineptitude, but it may also be to prevent exploitation, or equally to NOT have to render support to every little twat who is missing 3 points of his stats that he earned doing "yadayadayada"....

Shadovve wrote:

You don't get credit for rams in your total kills. but they do count for your vehicle kills

you have 684 kills in a plane, 58 of them are road kills (rams) leaving 626 that count for your total kills

You have 2 kills in transport, 1 of them is a road kill, leaving 1 kill in a transport, you have 12 kills with regular weapons.

626
  1
+12
=====
639

Road kills are bonus kills, that will affect your %, but they don't count for overall stats, or awards. (cept the transport badge that requires 5 road kills)

roadkills aren't rams, they're collateral kills

remember that time you fired a TV at the APC and the driver jumped out when he saw you coming at him and he died anyways when the apc blew? and you got credit looking like "IntrebuloN [btr-90] so'n'so"

that's a roadkill you can get while using aircraft

normal roadkills are when you run someone over, or ram an FAV with say an APC

i don't see any way an air to air ram could possibly count as a road kill, unless he's crashing near ground units and killing them with his burning wreckage