BF2S Forums Why I Think Atheists Are Idiots

Cougar wrote:

...One of these atheists sits two cubes down from me at work and is constantly trying to prove that God does not exist....

Well that explains a lot! If you do have idiots like that about no wonder your pissed. People like that whatever they are pushing (Atheism, religion or anything) are as you say idiots!

Cougar wrote:

My point is, if you don't do the stupid shit I was talking about in the OP, you're not really an Atheist, your an Apatheist, and therefore, not an idiot.

Apatheist (from reading the wiki definition) sounds like agnostic, so its nothing to do with being an atheist that "doesn't do certain things".... If you just do not believe in a deity your an Atheist even if you never say anything to anyone else

Cougar wrote:

...if you truly believe there is no God, you would not try to disprove or prove either way, because you know beyond any reasonable doubt that he does not exist, therefore the argument is mute and holds no weight, voiding the reason to make the argument in the begininng.

I'm never sure why the several non-atheists expect that being an atheist also makes you apathetic? Several obvious reasons to join in a discussion (maybe even start one)...

• Most of the arguments recently have been in anti-atheist not religious. Call any group stupid, wrong, idiots, etc.. then don't be surprised they answer (especially in D&ST as that's what its for!)
• Many Atheists wont care to discuss at all, but then you wouldn't know they were.
• However many Atheists will discuss, not because they are Atheists, but because they like to discuss, argue, or just like to voice an opinion.
• Atheists mostly don't care about people being theists (as you say not a huge point) - they do care about many organised religions.
• Try to think from the point of view of someone who as you say doesn't believe in 'something' that sees a large group with huge political and financial power in the world basing there decisions on what you think is a misplaced grounding. In fact Atheists arguing against any religion, I would think is not much different from different religions arguing against each other... such as many Christians getting very concerned over the growth, power and plans of Muslims.

Ownage thread if ever there was one hehe

Martyn

Cougar wrote:

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Doesn't explain why you interchange 'atheist' with 'athiest.' Alternating one's spelling in such a manner will not help out a 'group x are idiots' argument.

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-04-10 12:08:49)

rawls wrote:

The old "What if the mommas going to die" excuse. If I was the real God I would allow it. If I was an  Islamic God then the women would have to die. Thats why my God rules.

Somehow I missed this one.

HAHAHAHA

Spark wrote:

I find that to be reasonably well thought out post, but with one central flaw in the logic.

You are assuming that the atheists all hate "god". That isn't true - they hate what "it" (the concept of god) creates, which is religious dogma - the opiate of the masses.

Atheism, true atheism, has absolutely NOTHING to do with hate, in any sense.

^^^^ If someone earnestly believes his worldview is threatened by science; and then is political (public) in their actions - in advocating a stance against it. They may be misguided - they might be holding onto a misconception - etc - but they are not idiots. Their sentimental attachments to their beliefs are not an indication of idiocy... nor is the opposite (lack of attachment to a belief-system).

Cougar's generalization is not a definition of an idiot (cubicle atheist-guy), anymore than it would be to call a close friend of mine (who is uber religious; and constantly talks about the Bible, because I know so much about it) an idiot - because she wants to convince me of the beauty/glory of belief (of/in God). I do not think she is an idiot - nor do the discussions even bother me - in anyway at all. Cougar's problem is an internal Cougar problem; nothing more.

A person is being PUBLIC if they make a stance against I.D.; they are not necessarily idiots.

Abortion is primarily a central point to the political agenda of religious people; they are PUBLIC about it; they are not necessarily idiots.

Cubicle atheist guy isn't an idiot.
My religious friend isn't an idiot.

The vocalizations of ideas - in a public arena by people (about religion) - as a determining criteria - does not make them idiots.

Last edited by topal63 (2007-04-10 13:19:35)

Boomerjinks wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Boomerjinks wrote:

-Meaningless exaggerration(You've obviously never read anything I've ever posted.  Also, I think your meaningless pursuit of my ideals and beliefs is quite hypocritical.)

I was referring to this

Cougar wrote:

Maybe if you would stop posting "?????????" every 15 seconds

I suppose if I help an apple in front of you and asked if you saw it, you would deny it just as fervently, and throw in a couple of vulgarities as well, simply because they are the only type of argumentative weight you have to throw around.

Yes?

Ironic.  I like how you refused to address the other points I made, which is something you bashed me for earlier.

I guess I've made my point.

Malfera wrote:

call it what you'd like...Buddha, Yahweh, Tetragrammaton , YHVH, etc., there is something that balances out the chaos.

It is called death.

Cougar wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

Cougar wrote:

Nope.  My gripe is with Atheists, not Apatheists.

That is like starting a thread with - Why I think Christians are idiots

then down some saying, I don't hate all Christians, just Catholics.

Semantics, but still.

Nah, I think it's much more simple than denominations and semantics.  It's very simple actually.

Atheists believe that there is no God.  Thus they have a belief, some even going so far as to have Atheist Churches.  Most Atheists make arguments, theories and "mission statements" as to why God, Allah, Buddah, Flying Spaghetti Monster do not exist.  Name another group of people that put so much effort forth into disproving something they do not believe exists in the first place for.  Especially in an area such as religion where there are no provable points, only faith and point of view logic.

Apatheists don't believe in anything.  Period.  They don't care. Whats the point in arguing, it doesn't exist.  Go find the yeti or loch ness monster and leave me alone.  They are the only group that truly does not believe in God.  Which is funny, because you never hear about them, never see websites, fliers or TV spots for them.  Even wiki doesn't have a page for them, just a definition for apatheism.  This is because they don't believe in anything, therefore find no reason to belong to organization, church, club, website, or even title. 

liquidat0r wrote:

There is some truth in what you say however as Omnideath said, it seems a little harsh.

Well, it's fine up until the "Shut the fuck up".

I value your opinion.  Fixed.

The MEDIA(tv) spends most of its time trying to disuade people from religion. They constantly proclaim there isnt a god and(that they alone rule this world), but then spend untold hours convincing people not to believe....

Anyone who is THAT interested in downing religion has a GUILTY concience and knows they are wrong..

Ever notice how the people down on religion are all for porn,violence on TV, guns, and justified hatred.

Your all just trying to justify your own fucked-up immoral lives...but constantly giving us a reason to remove your sorry ass from this world(which we shall do...soon)

Superglueman wrote:

The MEDIA(tv) spends most of its time trying to disuade people from religion. They constantly proclaim there isnt a god and(that they alone rule this world), but then spend untold hours convincing people not to believe....

Anyone who is THAT interested in downing religion has a GUILTY concience and knows they are wrong..

Ever notice how the people down on religion are all for porn,violence on TV, guns, and justified hatred.

Your all just trying to justify your own fucked-up immoral lives...but constantly giving us a reason to remove your sorry ass from this world(which we shall do...soon)

Damn, I want your MEDIA(tv). The stuff we get here is generally boring.

Dead thread revival? Reason? No reason?

LOL, no doubt.