Really true.topal63 wrote:
Even if a whopping 10% bother to get hacks - I only get owned by great players - not hackers. A couple really good-great squads who communicate with their commander can dominate a rounds flow.
Man the other day we had a few AFK players on our team + a couple so-so players and we did OK, against one squad that was obviously communicating with their commander; but then a second squad joined the server; ouch! we were owned - (2) full 6-man squads racing around taking flags faster than artillary can be plummeted upon their heads!Dr_3V|L wrote:
Really true.topal63 wrote:
Even if a whopping 10% bother to get hacks - I only get owned by great players - not hackers. A couple really good-great squads who communicate with their commander can dominate a rounds flow.
Usually even if we loose I do a good job as commander - plummetting artillary strikes; but the flags dropped so fast - I had to guess which flag they might go to and time an art.y drop somewhere in an estimated path to target - it was a BITCH to try and do!
Personally, I am hoping that something comes out besides Punkbuster to stop cheats. Punkbuster has no competition for games, so they are slacking off. I haven't seen any updates about stopping these hackers... I still see command hacks just about every day! Punkbuster "Is an empty uniform" (Guess the quote!)
PB WILL Ban hardware of a hack. So he can't play any games taht run with PB.
My worse Enemy was a stat padder he and his buddy came, kill me revive kill me revive. Then i ran and C4ed thier asses and kept doing it until they left servertopal63 wrote:
Man the other day we had a few AFK players on our team + a couple so-so players and we did OK, against one squad that was obviously communicating with their commander; but then a second squad joined the server; ouch! we were owned - (2) full 6-man squads racing around taking flags faster than artillary can be plummeted upon their heads!Dr_3V|L wrote:
Really true.topal63 wrote:
Even if a whopping 10% bother to get hacks - I only get owned by great players - not hackers. A couple really good-great squads who communicate with their commander can dominate a rounds flow.
Usually even if we loose I do a good job as commander - plummetting artillary strikes; but the flags dropped so fast - I had to guess which flag they might go to and time an art.y drop somewhere in an estimated path to target - it was a BITCH to try and do!
I've seen (witnessed) that weird behavior - for the first time the other day - were they pick an UNWILLING victim and do that shit. . .CRIMS0N_W0LF wrote:
My worse Enemy was a stat padder he and his buddy came, kill me revive kill me revive. Then i ran and C4ed their asses and kept doing it until they left servertopal63 wrote:
Man the other day we had a few AFK players on our team + a couple so-so players and we did OK, against one squad that was obviously communicating with their commander; but then a second squad joined the server; ouch! we were owned - (2) full 6-man squads racing around taking flags faster than artillery can be plummeted upon their heads!Dr_3V|L wrote:
Really true.
Usually even if we loose I do a good job as commander - plummeting artillery strikes; but the flags dropped so fast - I had to guess which flag they might go to and time an art.y drop somewhere in an estimated path to target - it was a BITCH to try and do!
But the players on that server I played on [when I was commander] - were obviously NOT hackers, just better than our team. . .
The point I made is hacking might occur even a lot (guessing maybe 10%) - but I don't agree with this or any thread topic: that it is either a plague or overwhelming.
But I have been overwhelmed [as a team] by a better team [and that is testament to their good play. Libations, salutations and congratulations to them!]
Bad play - OH YEAH - that is overwhelming! But that is easily countered by switching [surfing] to another server.
The same with what I might think is HACKING, STAT PADDING, I switch [surf] to another server - I almost always find one that is FUN.
85%-95% of the time I am not experiencing what I am guessing is [or knowing is] HACKING.
The only thing about surfing servers I don’t like is the slow load time[s]; only to find out this server is kinda sucky; so I have to suffer another slow load to get on another server.
I think there will always be hacking. . . and there is already a counter to it if it does [actually] become a plague. It isn’t PB, it’s a password [which already exists as a server option; and] which is an invite to any server. This would be necessary if it actually became a plague. And passwords can always be changed should a stat-padder; hacker make it through any invite process. To me it is the ONLY direction BF2 players can take [PB can't actually do it as much as people think they can] - IF - hacking actually becomes [or players think it is; a] plague.
Last edited by topal63 (2005-12-30 10:28:36)
Ive yet to see a hacker on BF2, and I have over 400 hours play time.
Maybe your just shit?
Maybe your just shit?
Don't start flaming, because you think you've never seen someone hack yet. Go to www.punksbusted.com and see just how many people have been busted hacking in this game. We stream live to them, and since we have started streaming we have caught 6 hackers. Some were regualrs, and never even thought they were hacking until we saw a screenshot of them.BUDFORCE wrote:
Ive yet to see a hacker on BF2, and I have over 400 hours play time.
Maybe your just shit?
I am SHIT, and I am a member of the SHIT-RACE - SO WHAT! You pointless useless ignorant moronic racist shit hater!BUDFORCE wrote:
Ive yet to see a hacker on BF2, and I have over 400 hours play time.
Maybe your just shit?
I had 4 hack on Oman last night. Top 4 players on my team had 20 to 30 kills and 0 deaths. Never in my 170+ hours have I seen anyonw score like that. None where medic either. At least there score didn't reflect that of a busy medic.
I have made it through entire rounds without getting killed even once - dumb luck - and I wasn't a medic, and I never got artilleried or revived not even once.staticblue wrote:
I had 4 hack on Oman last night. Top 4 players on my team had 20 to 30 kills and 0 deaths. Never in my 170+ hours have I seen anyonw score like that. None where medic either. At least there score didn't reflect that of a busy medic.
So. . . if they were in the same squad - yes it is easy actually - and NO it is not a HACK.
If you are a medic and you get killed and another revives you that is 1 actual kill for the other guy yet you will show up as having been killed 0 times. A revive eliminates a kill on yours/and-the/team-round stats.
I have NO doubt there ARE hacks. I have seen PICs [screenshots] of dudes on punksbusted before, but all strange behavior seems to get called a hack - when it is not a HACK.
I haven't seen someone hack in BF2 yet. Most of the complaints are combinations of bad days, laggyness, misc computer problems, and really good players. I've seen those hack sites, and I've seen hacks on games like CS and Call of Duty. But the vast majority of the time the guy you think is a hacker has some uber-low ping and probably blew 20 grand on his computer. The guy is probably some 25 year old loser living with his parents playing games all day.
http://rep.punksbusted.com:9000/cgi-bin … p;remove=0psychotoxic187 wrote:
Don't start flaming, because you think you've never seen someone hack yet. Go to www.punksbusted.com and see just how many people have been busted hacking in this game. We stream live to them, and since we have started streaming we have caught 6 hackers. Some were regualrs, and never even thought they were hacking until we saw a screenshot of them.BUDFORCE wrote:
Ive yet to see a hacker on BF2, and I have over 400 hours play time.
Maybe your just shit?
normally when im hit of distance by a sniper i give credit to him for the good shot.. problem this time.. i was in a plane flying high and practising. - full health... ,- full armor... - 500 ft high..- nose in air. got shot out of cockpit O.o
another strange thing. when enemy arty comes down 3 times in one minute and urs is reloading 1 strike in 2 mins..
thats the only REALLY weird things i encountered.. i mean there are weird things.. like needing 4 c-4 pakcs for one comdr asset. or.. and freindly hummer drives into ur tank u explode.. hummer drives on with no health lost and an enemy got the kill. (no it wasnt the name glitch)
but k.. the only thing u can do is.. make a screenshot.. and send it to EA.. (dont think they will do anything bout that) but still its a chance
another strange thing. when enemy arty comes down 3 times in one minute and urs is reloading 1 strike in 2 mins..
thats the only REALLY weird things i encountered.. i mean there are weird things.. like needing 4 c-4 pakcs for one comdr asset. or.. and freindly hummer drives into ur tank u explode.. hummer drives on with no health lost and an enemy got the kill. (no it wasnt the name glitch)
but k.. the only thing u can do is.. make a screenshot.. and send it to EA.. (dont think they will do anything bout that) but still its a chance
99% of the suspected hacks are:
-the 'he couldn't possible kill me so many times' hack
-the 'he can't shoot more accurate then me' hack
-the 'no way he could have survived that; I hit him 10 times in the head' hack
-a glitch
-lag
-one of the many battlefield 2 bugs
-the 'he couldn't possible kill me so many times' hack
-the 'he can't shoot more accurate then me' hack
-the 'no way he could have survived that; I hit him 10 times in the head' hack
-a glitch
-lag
-one of the many battlefield 2 bugs
While you are entittled to your opinion but IMHO its the people like you and the many others in this thread who are so quick to say " well I'VE never encounterd a hacK" that are ONE of the reasons hackers continue to thrive. The fact that a large part of the gaming community refuses to believe their fellow gamers would actually CHEAT in fact is part of the problem.Spyx750 wrote:
99% of the suspected hacks are:
-the 'he couldn't possible kill me so many times' hack
-the 'he can't shoot more accurate then me' hack
-the 'no way he could have survived that; I hit him 10 times in the head' hack
-a glitch
-lag
-one of the many battlefield 2 bugs
For those that claim to have never had someone use a hack against them I say How the heck would you know? If the hacker were any good you certainly wouldnt know unless you were familiar with the hack itself. The majority of hackers that are "caught" are caught because they were too obvioius, like one shot kills with assualt rifle across the map .
WAKE UP !! people cheat, just like people lie and steal.
Heck yeah. I don't think you can just turn a blind eye to something just because it hasn't happened to you. I do, however, agree with Spyx750 in that 99% of the time it is because the other player is just *better* than I am, rather than some insiduous hack going on, that's the cause of the 15th death that round.
Still, it pays to keep your eyes and ears open for this sort of thing, ignorance will allow these cheats to prosper.
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Still, it pays to keep your eyes and ears open for this sort of thing, ignorance will allow these cheats to prosper.
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I've never come across anyone who I've suspected of hacking, but I get accused a lot..
what EA should is start with the Clan server. This is where they they fail to detect. Correct me if im wrong, but even if "punkbuster" catches somebody the admin have send in the log for proof. That how it was on the first BF. Ive played on alot of suspect clan servers. I wont name them here. Im a smart guy and i can tell between gliches and cheats. Now its so bad though CO hack and aimbots! Ive been killed by alot of one hit kills in the past 3-4 weeks. Also pay attention to the amount of crates you see and how offten the artillery flies. Speaking of the new top dog on the ladder prolly uses a CO hack since he has his own server that he hosts. Who would report him if he was.
What kills me is that EA does VERY VERY VERY little to punish the people. Its not illegal to cheat. To get anyone into trouble you would have to take them to court over licences dispute. Its a joke guys and everyone is in on it but you. I get mad till i remember....HEY its a game, stats means shit, global rank means shit, score means shit, EA is the king of shit for makeing a game so easy manipulated.
I see one and only solution BOYCOTT EA. When you hit people in the pocket book they will start to listen to you more. Really EA want us to keep buying thier games/expansion/booster packs. But they cant guarantee a Fair and honest game.
I still think Battlefield is a great game in concept. The more time goes by the more i see people cheat the more i remember why i stopped playing counterstrike.
On a side note....Knowing what kinda cheats are out there is the responsiblity of all gamers. Once you under stand how they cheat, what kinda thing they see on thier screen you can combat it. For example Someone who relies on a mini-map cheats can easly be confussed in big rooms or areas of high activity. Aimboters can be defeated by thier own greed. Lure them at a distance but never really give them a shot. Distance is critical though. Got to get them reloading or surprise them. Wallhacks are particualry nasty and i dont know other than sheer luck to defeat these guys. Here again though greed most of the time does these players in.
Cheats dont always win, in fact only a good cheat gets a K/d over 2.5-3. Why? cause they sucked to begin with.
I encourage all players to investigate hacks and know what they do. ALways call people out....always. 90% of the time your prolly right. If your wrong who cares, if your right the player drops the game or changes thier playing style. Really thou i just assume everyone but me cheats even my close online buddies.
OK final though... find HONEST servers and honest players. If your playing in public servers your going to run into cheats.
OK final final though. Hacking a game is quite brilliant, it is useing what the game provides for in its code. Hacks dont make themselves some brainy little kid ripped the code for this game to shit. Its funny..kinda. I think we should allow this behavour if not encourage it. BUT ONLY in unranked servers then everyone could join in and have a great time. Frankliy if i used cheats i dont know how anyone would ever kill me, aside from spam. Im just that good baby!
boycotts work!
What kills me is that EA does VERY VERY VERY little to punish the people. Its not illegal to cheat. To get anyone into trouble you would have to take them to court over licences dispute. Its a joke guys and everyone is in on it but you. I get mad till i remember....HEY its a game, stats means shit, global rank means shit, score means shit, EA is the king of shit for makeing a game so easy manipulated.
I see one and only solution BOYCOTT EA. When you hit people in the pocket book they will start to listen to you more. Really EA want us to keep buying thier games/expansion/booster packs. But they cant guarantee a Fair and honest game.
I still think Battlefield is a great game in concept. The more time goes by the more i see people cheat the more i remember why i stopped playing counterstrike.
On a side note....Knowing what kinda cheats are out there is the responsiblity of all gamers. Once you under stand how they cheat, what kinda thing they see on thier screen you can combat it. For example Someone who relies on a mini-map cheats can easly be confussed in big rooms or areas of high activity. Aimboters can be defeated by thier own greed. Lure them at a distance but never really give them a shot. Distance is critical though. Got to get them reloading or surprise them. Wallhacks are particualry nasty and i dont know other than sheer luck to defeat these guys. Here again though greed most of the time does these players in.
Cheats dont always win, in fact only a good cheat gets a K/d over 2.5-3. Why? cause they sucked to begin with.
I encourage all players to investigate hacks and know what they do. ALways call people out....always. 90% of the time your prolly right. If your wrong who cares, if your right the player drops the game or changes thier playing style. Really thou i just assume everyone but me cheats even my close online buddies.
OK final though... find HONEST servers and honest players. If your playing in public servers your going to run into cheats.
OK final final though. Hacking a game is quite brilliant, it is useing what the game provides for in its code. Hacks dont make themselves some brainy little kid ripped the code for this game to shit. Its funny..kinda. I think we should allow this behavour if not encourage it. BUT ONLY in unranked servers then everyone could join in and have a great time. Frankliy if i used cheats i dont know how anyone would ever kill me, aside from spam. Im just that good baby!
boycotts work!
All your money are belong to EA.
Interesting comment. I always figure people just did it for the challange of making the program. Same kinda thing with viruses../KRUX wrote:
I think we should allow this behavour if not encourage it.
Pretty positive EA doesn't dish out hardware bans. CD Key bans and GUID bans are what they do - hardware bans would make it impossile for anyone to play on a computer - so if you played in a LAN center or etc., they would lose business, which I think would be a huge lawsuit.
do you make virusesRathji wrote:
Interesting comment. I always figure people just did it for the challange of making the program. Same kinda thing with viruses../KRUX wrote:
I think we should allow this behavour if not encourage it.
Hit Enter and hit the Suicide button in the split second before he kills you, then you can't be revived.CRIMS0N_W0LF wrote:
My worse Enemy was a stat padder he and his buddy came, kill me revive kill me revive. Then i ran and C4ed thier asses and kept doing it until they left servertopal63 wrote:
Man the other day we had a few AFK players on our team + a couple so-so players and we did OK, against one squad that was obviously communicating with their commander; but then a second squad joined the server; ouch! we were owned - (2) full 6-man squads racing around taking flags faster than artillary can be plummeted upon their heads!Dr_3V|L wrote:
Really true.
Usually even if we loose I do a good job as commander - plummetting artillary strikes; but the flags dropped so fast - I had to guess which flag they might go to and time an art.y drop somewhere in an estimated path to target - it was a BITCH to try and do!
No, PB doesn't give out hardware bans for using a third party program that PB can't catch. Global Hardware bans come from when you alter PB so that the third party program won't be noticed by PB.CRIMS0N_W0LF wrote:
PB WILL Ban hardware of a hack. So he can't play any games taht run with PB.
Last edited by Drunkaholic (2006-01-16 20:17:34)
yeah shit hey. i ran into a hack the other day. i was going for my knife badge, running down the main street of karkand right in the middle so i could see anyone, and there's a dude on the gun placement stationary defence thing, facing me, shooting at me, and i fucken died. and in the same game, i was in an apc driving along, and an enemy engineer put a mine in front of me, and i drove over it, and i died. fuck that for a joke.