Terrorism has nothing to do with what happened at MY SCHOOL. Stop taking the deaths of people I KNOW and turning them into talking points for your anti-american platform. You do it, other people on here do it, the news does it, politicians will soon start doing it... and its wrong! Look at you. No, "I'm sorry to the people of Virginia for their loss", no "I feel bad for what happened". Instead you say "but at least your safe from muslims......". You really are something. You know what you should do? You should not come back to this forum until you have practiced something we here in America call "Compassion."Bubbalo wrote:
Why? You're going around killing and taking away the rights of others on the basis and that teh terr0rizerz are out to get you, and yet here 32 people are killed by someone not associated with Al Qaeda or Islam. Glass houses and all that.ATG wrote:
Bubs, please stop.Bubbalo wrote:
But at least you're safe from Muslims................................
Bad news. As much as I despise Jack Abramhoff with every bone of my body, if you played this game:ChevyLee86 wrote:
the guy called in a bomb threat before doing this to see the schools security. I believe he was trained from south Korea where he was born an raised. No civilian kid can kill 32 people with 2 hand guns thats fast having a dead on aim. Today another bomb threat was called in at St Eds University in Austin Texas. Hope this doesn't happen again.
, you are skilled enough to do what this kid did.edit
Yes, yes. You might have played
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as well.
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I need to correct myself. It was a South Korean Exchange student.Harmor wrote:
They Psycho killed himself - the police never engaged with the Chinese Exchange student.Stingray24 wrote:
Condolences to the family of those who were killed and God bless the police officer who finally shot the psycho.
I think there were quite a few international people in that University. Probably some from various country's killed. This is rolling into a big international incident and fast.
EDIT: Yep....this isn't going to go away for a long time...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6563813.stm
EDIT: Yep....this isn't going to go away for a long time...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/south_asia/6563813.stm
Last edited by Mekstizzle (2007-04-17 08:25:45)
Just saw a report on the news about Virginia gun control regulations (or lack there of!) ...what does one expect to happen when almost anyone can attain heavy duty firepower with the greatest of ease.
The American constitution is always referenced as a defence of the right to bear arms but that part of the constitution was included as a measure to insure the various militia that helped defeat the Brits during the war of independence could maintain a military-esque capability in the event of having to defend the US's new found freedom from a resumption of British hostility...I don't think the Brits are gonna be having a pop at the US anytime soon, maybe the US should start thinking about tightening up those gun controls?
The American constitution is always referenced as a defence of the right to bear arms but that part of the constitution was included as a measure to insure the various militia that helped defeat the Brits during the war of independence could maintain a military-esque capability in the event of having to defend the US's new found freedom from a resumption of British hostility...I don't think the Brits are gonna be having a pop at the US anytime soon, maybe the US should start thinking about tightening up those gun controls?
Last edited by Braddock (2007-04-17 08:27:36)
Weapons are tools not reasons. (It only took box cutters to hijack 4 planes). When a person is that demented they will find a different tool/method to carry out their plans. Lets not forget to blame the murderer on our pretentious quest for political moral supremacy.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Your right and by still having that law/constituion/right or whatever you wanna call it, you're essentially saying "We think the British will try and invade us soon". And let's assume, your millitary didn't exist (or they surrendered), do you think even 200 million with crappy handguns could protect the US against today's modern war technology?Braddock wrote:
Just saw a report on the news about Virginia gun control regulations (or lack there of!) ...what does one expect to happen when almost anyone can attain heavy duty firepower with the greatest of ease.
The American constitution is always referenced as a defence of the right to bear arms but that part of the constitution was included as a measure to insure the various militia that helped defeat the Brits during the war of independence could maintain a military-esque capability in the event of having to defend the US's new found freedom from a resumption of British hostility...I don't think the Brits are gonna be having a pop at the US anytime soon, maybe the US should start thinking about tightening up those gun controls?
Tighter gun controls would make it just that little bit harder to carry out such an attack though. It could only do more good than harm surely? What great loss would it be if any Joe Soap could no longer walk off the street and tool up like Arnie in 'Commando'? The real gun enthusiasts will go the extra mile to get licenses and training and all the rest anyway. I mean it seems to me like it's easier to get a gun than it is to be allowed to drive a car in Virginia.Kmarion wrote:
Weapons are tools not reasons. (It only took box cutters to hijack 4 planes). When a person is that demented they will find a different tool/method to carry out their plans. Lets not forget to blame the murderer on our pretentious quest for political moral supremacy.
I know it hits hard for you because you were close to the 'action', but lets think about this for a second- 32 people dead. How many people die every day across the globe from not random acts of violence, but because they live in shithole conditions? Don't get me wrong, I cannot even comprehend what relatives and friends of those murdered in Virginia are going through. But please, save me the "fuck you guys for making it political." What the hell do you want us to do? Please, tell me the appropriate time frame for mourning deaths before we start looking at reasons why this could have been avoided. It sucks for you, but I wasn't there. My family/friends did not die there. I am going to look at this from a standpoint of, "how could we have stopped this."iamangry wrote:
Terrorism has nothing to do with what happened at MY SCHOOL. Stop taking the deaths of people I KNOW and turning them into talking points for your anti-american platform. You do it, other people on here do it, the news does it, politicians will soon start doing it... and its wrong! Look at you. No, "I'm sorry to the people of Virginia for their loss", no "I feel bad for what happened". Instead you say "but at least your safe from muslims......". You really are something. You know what you should do? You should not come back to this forum until you have practiced something we here in America call "Compassion."
People across the world die everyday, but I should care more about these people because it happened close to you/in the US/to white people? Fuck you very much, but I have compassion for humanity. I feel horrible for all deaths in the world, not just isolated incidents of violence. In case you were unaware, more than 32 people died from violence across the US yesterday. A lot more. But I bet everyday you read the news, read about all the bloodshed throughout the world, and a tear drops from your eye right? Because you have all this compassion for people, and feel the need to tell everyone that they are assholes for analyzing a tragic situatuation.
It is one thing to feel for the families and the victims. I think it takes a depraved person to not have a feeling of sorrow and compassion for those involved. But don't tell me the time frame for mourning or how I should feel when you (not just iamangry) guys don't give bloodshed around the world the time of day.
So in summation, fuck you, I will make this a political event. It is called learning from your mistakes. And fuck you for telling me how I should feel. Yes, I feel bad. Do you feel bad about troops dying in Iraq, people getting murdered in Central and Sub-Saharan Africa for not going along with an idea? Please, tell me how long you wait before you comment on those types of events.
Last edited by KEN-JENNINGS (2007-04-17 09:35:31)
iamangry wrote:
Terrorism has nothing to do with what happened at MY SCHOOL. Stop taking the deaths of people I KNOW and turning them into talking points for your anti-american platform. You do it, other people on here do it, the news does it, politicians will soon start doing it... and its wrong! Look at you. No, "I'm sorry to the people of Virginia for their loss", no "I feel bad for what happened". Instead you say "but at least your safe from muslims......". You really are something. You know what you should do? You should not come back to this forum until you have practiced something we here in America call "Compassion."
I agree with Ken-Jennings... there's no point putting your head in the sand, we have to ask questions at times like these in order to help prevent similar situations happening. If I'm not mistaken the Dunblane massacre was something of a watershed for gun control in Britain, hopefully this may do the same for the US or at least maybe Virginia.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I know it hits hard for you because you were close to the 'action', but lets think about this for a second- 32 people dead. How many people die every day across the globe from not random acts of violence, but because they live in shithole conditions? Don't get me wrong, I cannot even comprehend what relatives and friends of those murdered in Virginia are going through. But please, save me the "fuck you guys for making it political." What the hell do you want us to do? Please, tell me the appropriate time frame for mourning deaths before we start looking at reasons why this could have been avoided. It sucks for you, but I wasn't there. My family/friends did not die there. I am going to look at this from a standpoint of, "how could we have stopped this."
People across the world die everyday, but I should care more about these people because it happened close to you/in the US/to white people? Fuck you very much, but I have compassion for humanity. I feel horrible for all deaths in the world, not just isolated incidents of violence. In case you were unaware, more than 32 people died from violence across the US yesterday. A lot more. But I bet everyday you read the news, read about all the bloodshed throughout the world, and a tear drops from your eye right? Because you have all this compassion for people, and feel the need to tell everyone that they are assholes for analyzing a tragic situatuation.
It is one thing to feel for the families and the victims. I think it takes a depraved person to not have a feeling of sorrow and compassion for those involved. But don't tell me the time frame for mourning or how I should feel when you (not just iamangry) guys don't give bloodshed around the world the time of day.
So in summation, fuck you, I will make this a political event. It is called learning from your mistakes. And fuck you for telling me how I should feel. Yes, I feel bad. Do you feel bad about troops dying in Iraq, people getting murdered in Central and Sub-Saharan Africa for not going along with an idea? Please, tell me how long you wait before you comment on those types of events.
Tighter gun controls would do absolutely nothing to make it harder to carry out an attack like this. I waited a week or so when I bought my pistol a couple years ago which is much harder than getting a driver's license. Not sure what the wait is in Virginia. This guy supposedly bought his in March and several weeks later this tragedy occurred. As Kmarion said, a person like this will find another way even if he couldn't buy a gun. Let's lay this at the feet of the shooter, not the gun. It baffles me that so many jump to blame the inanimate object instead of recognizing responsibility lies with the person pulling the trigger.Braddock wrote:
Tighter gun controls would make it just that little bit harder to carry out such an attack though. It could only do more good than harm surely? What great loss would it be if any Joe Soap could no longer walk off the street and tool up like Arnie in 'Commando'? The real gun enthusiasts will go the extra mile to get licenses and training and all the rest anyway. I mean it seems to me like it's easier to get a gun than it is to be allowed to drive a car in Virginia.Kmarion wrote:
Weapons are tools not reasons. (It only took box cutters to hijack 4 planes). When a person is that demented they will find a different tool/method to carry out their plans. Lets not forget to blame the murderer on our pretentious quest for political moral supremacy.
Tighter gun control would absofuckinglutely make it harder for people to commit these acts; just look at the rest of the world if you want an example. You're right, people may well find other means to carry out these acts, like use a knife, baseball bat, beatings whatever so long as there isn't a gun involved it won't be nearly as lethal. We can't do anything about fucked up people on the streets, there's always going to be a wacko, so why not do something where you can make a difference and make it harder for him to obtain a gun?Stingray24 wrote:
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Tighter gun controls would do absolutely nothing to make it harder to carry out an attack like this. I waited a week or so when I bought my pistol a couple years ago which is much harder than getting a driver's license. Not sure what the wait is in Virginia. This guy supposedly bought his in March and several weeks later this tragedy occurred. As Kmarion said, a person like this will find another way even if he couldn't buy a gun. Let's lay this at the feet of the shooter, not the gun. It baffles me that so many jump to blame the inanimate object instead of recognizing responsibility lies with the person pulling the trigger.
I agree Ricardo, as I said in one of the other three hundred threads on this once incident (Admins gonna merge any time soon?) just because people disreagrd laws doesn't mean you should have them. Why not legalize all hard drugs because people do it anyway?RicardoBlanco wrote:
Tighter gun control would absofuckinglutely make it harder for people to commit these acts; just look at the rest of the world if you want an example. You're right, people may well find other means to carry out these acts, like use a knife, baseball bat, beatings whatever so long as there isn't a gun involved it won't be nearly as lethal. We can't do anything about fucked up people on the streets, there's always going to be a wacko, so why not do something where you can make a difference and make it harder for him to obtain a gun?Stingray24 wrote:
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Tighter gun controls would do absolutely nothing to make it harder to carry out an attack like this. I waited a week or so when I bought my pistol a couple years ago which is much harder than getting a driver's license. Not sure what the wait is in Virginia. This guy supposedly bought his in March and several weeks later this tragedy occurred. As Kmarion said, a person like this will find another way even if he couldn't buy a gun. Let's lay this at the feet of the shooter, not the gun. It baffles me that so many jump to blame the inanimate object instead of recognizing responsibility lies with the person pulling the trigger.
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/ap_ … ld_victims
That...just leaves me breathless. Seriously.
I can't believe that shit.
That...just leaves me breathless. Seriously.
I can't believe that shit.
what a brave brave manPoseidon wrote:
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070417/ap_on_re_mi_ea/virginia_tech_world_victims
That...just leaves me breathless. Seriously.
I can't believe that shit.
You're advocating a policy that makes people helpless victims of every manner of crime because they will have no means of defense. Tighter gun controls only restrict those who follow the law. Someone who is determined to commit a crime will break the law and obtain a gun anyway. Then the criminal knows he'll have no resistance and can kill at will as many as he chooses.RicardoBlanco wrote:
Tighter gun control would absofuckinglutely make it harder for people to commit these acts; just look at the rest of the world if you want an example. You're right, people may well find other means to carry out these acts, like use a knife, baseball bat, beatings whatever so long as there isn't a gun involved it won't be nearly as lethal. We can't do anything about fucked up people on the streets, there's always going to be a wacko, so why not do something where you can make a difference and make it harder for him to obtain a gun?Stingray24 wrote:
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Tighter gun controls would do absolutely nothing to make it harder to carry out an attack like this. I waited a week or so when I bought my pistol a couple years ago which is much harder than getting a driver's license. Not sure what the wait is in Virginia. This guy supposedly bought his in March and several weeks later this tragedy occurred. As Kmarion said, a person like this will find another way even if he couldn't buy a gun. Let's lay this at the feet of the shooter, not the gun. It baffles me that so many jump to blame the inanimate object instead of recognizing responsibility lies with the person pulling the trigger.
I really dont know how someone could do this. I mean how the fuck could a human do something this bad?
Forensics can help to identify the responsible weapon. I'd rather be in trouble and alive than undoubtedly innocent and dead. What you said isn't necessarily true. If someone were to spot a man storming into his classroom with guns blazing and be able to dish out a little lead of his own (provided he isn't firing into a crowd to get to him), the killing spree could be aborted then and there. Of course, your responsibility is not to go hunting for the gunman across campus. That's what would lead to police confusion (provided they've even shown up yet).Masques wrote:
There was confusion as to who the shooter was. In a crowd of armed students how are the authorities supposed to know? All they see is another dead body and someone with a weapon. That makes it much harder to discern who is responsible.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
No, when the cops show up, don't wave your hand cannons around. And your edit sucks. Plenty of people were maimed and killed in this particular incident without the benefit of being armed. If someone armed on site had shot the shooter earlier, there may have been less suffering.Masques wrote:
So...an incident like this happens and the authorities don't know who the shooter is...they arrive on the scene and what do they find? Thousands or maybe not even that much...hundreds perhaps.
What would you do in such a situation? If you had a gun and were holding it the campus/local police would be likely to shoot you. Besides, "no guns on campus" isn't going to do much for a shooter that ultimately kills him/herself, is it?
EDIT: Not to mention that so many people brandishing weapons and firing in a confused situation is more likely to get innocent people maimed or killed.
What I said specifically is that more people would likely die in the confusion. If the authorities don't know who the perp is I'm sure a bunch of armed 18 yr olds are going to have a harder time.
Additionally, not all college students are 18 years of age.
Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-04-17 12:06:31)
Selfishness.The_Killer wrote:
I really dont know how someone could do this. I mean how the fuck could a human do something this bad?
Self hate, and a contempt for the happy and hopefull.
It is best to not ask the why, or how, because those things are the easiest.
The hardest is; how do we maintain our freedoms and yet protect ourselves from these monsters?
The answer is; you can't do both, and periodically there will be the carnage we have seen.
Saddly, late last week I mentally marked the fact that it had been a few months sinse a mass killing and that we were due.
Looking too hard at these sick bastards can open up doors in your brain to the places where madness dwells.
Love your people, and be a good person. That is all you can do.
Last edited by ATG (2007-04-17 12:14:24)
Excellent point, +1.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I know it hits hard for you because you were close to the 'action', but lets think about this for a second- 32 people dead. How many people die every day across the globe from not random acts of violence, but because they live in shithole conditions? Don't get me wrong, I cannot even comprehend what relatives and friends of those murdered in Virginia are going through. But please, save me the "fuck you guys for making it political." What the hell do you want us to do? Please, tell me the appropriate time frame for mourning deaths before we start looking at reasons why this could have been avoided. It sucks for you, but I wasn't there. My family/friends did not die there. I am going to look at this from a standpoint of, "how could we have stopped this."iamangry wrote:
Terrorism has nothing to do with what happened at MY SCHOOL. Stop taking the deaths of people I KNOW and turning them into talking points for your anti-american platform. You do it, other people on here do it, the news does it, politicians will soon start doing it... and its wrong! Look at you. No, "I'm sorry to the people of Virginia for their loss", no "I feel bad for what happened". Instead you say "but at least your safe from muslims......". You really are something. You know what you should do? You should not come back to this forum until you have practiced something we here in America call "Compassion."
People across the world die everyday, but I should care more about these people because it happened close to you/in the US/to white people? Fuck you very much, but I have compassion for humanity. I feel horrible for all deaths in the world, not just isolated incidents of violence. In case you were unaware, more than 32 people died from violence across the US yesterday. A lot more. But I bet everyday you read the news, read about all the bloodshed throughout the world, and a tear drops from your eye right? Because you have all this compassion for people, and feel the need to tell everyone that they are assholes for analyzing a tragic situatuation.
It is one thing to feel for the families and the victims. I think it takes a depraved person to not have a feeling of sorrow and compassion for those involved. But don't tell me the time frame for mourning or how I should feel when you (not just iamangry) guys don't give bloodshed around the world the time of day.
So in summation, fuck you, I will make this a political event. It is called learning from your mistakes. And fuck you for telling me how I should feel. Yes, I feel bad. Do you feel bad about troops dying in Iraq, people getting murdered in Central and Sub-Saharan Africa for not going along with an idea? Please, tell me how long you wait before you comment on those types of events.
No, it wasn't.ghettoperson wrote:
Excellent point, +1.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I know it hits hard for you because you were close to the 'action', but lets think about this for a second- 32 people dead. How many people die every day across the globe from not random acts of violence, but because they live in shithole conditions? Don't get me wrong, I cannot even comprehend what relatives and friends of those murdered in Virginia are going through. But please, save me the "fuck you guys for making it political." What the hell do you want us to do? Please, tell me the appropriate time frame for mourning deaths before we start looking at reasons why this could have been avoided. It sucks for you, but I wasn't there. My family/friends did not die there. I am going to look at this from a standpoint of, "how could we have stopped this."iamangry wrote:
Terrorism has nothing to do with what happened at MY SCHOOL. Stop taking the deaths of people I KNOW and turning them into talking points for your anti-american platform. You do it, other people on here do it, the news does it, politicians will soon start doing it... and its wrong! Look at you. No, "I'm sorry to the people of Virginia for their loss", no "I feel bad for what happened". Instead you say "but at least your safe from muslims......". You really are something. You know what you should do? You should not come back to this forum until you have practiced something we here in America call "Compassion."
People across the world die everyday, but I should care more about these people because it happened close to you/in the US/to white people? Fuck you very much, but I have compassion for humanity. I feel horrible for all deaths in the world, not just isolated incidents of violence. In case you were unaware, more than 32 people died from violence across the US yesterday. A lot more. But I bet everyday you read the news, read about all the bloodshed throughout the world, and a tear drops from your eye right? Because you have all this compassion for people, and feel the need to tell everyone that they are assholes for analyzing a tragic situatuation.
It is one thing to feel for the families and the victims. I think it takes a depraved person to not have a feeling of sorrow and compassion for those involved. But don't tell me the time frame for mourning or how I should feel when you (not just iamangry) guys don't give bloodshed around the world the time of day.
So in summation, fuck you, I will make this a political event. It is called learning from your mistakes. And fuck you for telling me how I should feel. Yes, I feel bad. Do you feel bad about troops dying in Iraq, people getting murdered in Central and Sub-Saharan Africa for not going along with an idea? Please, tell me how long you wait before you comment on those types of events.
It was a shitty, mean thing to say, what was there, 3 fuck yous? 4?
Pretty sorry assed shit.
you are a child that tries to take blows at people while not even really making a point.Bubbalo wrote:
But Parker, I thought you were an expert on all things firearm related? You mean you actually know very little and just run around posting videos?Parker wrote:
i should have edited that. that post was made earlier in the day before anything was really released about how he did it. i was picturing some whiz with a handgun to be pulling off long distance rapid shots at moving targets....you can go back and i even said i thought he had training.....going on the thought i just talked about.
i was wrong, not the first and sure as hell wont be the last.
about the head wounds, ive never had any experience with any....well one, but it involved a .380 and the guy was already dead, but that pales in comparison to what you do. ive never really compared the numbers and im sure they would weigh heavily with death, but it seems i read about alot of people that survive head shots. now they only survive by say 1mm of difference or a blood vessel that didnt go somehow, but they survive.
i guess ive been taught to hate the 9mm and its effectiveness. i let my bias get the best of me.
and if the fbi wouldnt have jurisdiction i wish they would have gotten some people in there that knew what the fuck they were doing. i keep trying to avoid this on the news......it seems to me that they are like vultures that hover around and await some epic tragedy to befall innocent people so they can rape the survivors and profit off of it. its a sad day and i wish some things could have gone much different.
with that said, im going to bed......its times like this, no matter how shitty of a day you had, times like this make you glad that at least your ass bumped ground today.
i hope you feel better for coming into this thread and posting random flames.
this isnt the area for me to discuss your knowledge, or lack there of.
if you must know, i havent seen too many head shots with a 9mm. does that mean i have no experience with firearms?
you be the judge, but do it in a different thread.
see, this is how children behave.....they take the chance.....no matter the time to try and flame people....
GG bubbs, now actually post something useful or get the fuck out of this thread.
Last edited by Parker (2007-04-17 12:45:03)
He can't.Parker wrote:
GG bubbs, now actually post something useful or get the fuck out of this thread.
What's wrong with a few fuck yous? They get thrown around in here all the time.ATG wrote:
No, it wasn't.ghettoperson wrote:
Excellent point, +1.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
I know it hits hard for you because you were close to the 'action', but lets think about this for a second- 32 people dead. How many people die every day across the globe from not random acts of violence, but because they live in shithole conditions? Don't get me wrong, I cannot even comprehend what relatives and friends of those murdered in Virginia are going through. But please, save me the "fuck you guys for making it political." What the hell do you want us to do? Please, tell me the appropriate time frame for mourning deaths before we start looking at reasons why this could have been avoided. It sucks for you, but I wasn't there. My family/friends did not die there. I am going to look at this from a standpoint of, "how could we have stopped this."
People across the world die everyday, but I should care more about these people because it happened close to you/in the US/to white people? Fuck you very much, but I have compassion for humanity. I feel horrible for all deaths in the world, not just isolated incidents of violence. In case you were unaware, more than 32 people died from violence across the US yesterday. A lot more. But I bet everyday you read the news, read about all the bloodshed throughout the world, and a tear drops from your eye right? Because you have all this compassion for people, and feel the need to tell everyone that they are assholes for analyzing a tragic situatuation.
It is one thing to feel for the families and the victims. I think it takes a depraved person to not have a feeling of sorrow and compassion for those involved. But don't tell me the time frame for mourning or how I should feel when you (not just iamangry) guys don't give bloodshed around the world the time of day.
So in summation, fuck you, I will make this a political event. It is called learning from your mistakes. And fuck you for telling me how I should feel. Yes, I feel bad. Do you feel bad about troops dying in Iraq, people getting murdered in Central and Sub-Saharan Africa for not going along with an idea? Please, tell me how long you wait before you comment on those types of events.
It was a shitty, mean thing to say, what was there, 3 fuck yous? 4?
Pretty sorry assed shit.
And his point was a good one. You just don't like it. People die all around the world all the time, a lot more than this, in similar ways and we do not have to keep politics out of it for a day or so because it makes some guy on the internet feel better. This is Debate and Serious Talk, meaning we are allowed to Debate things. He said himself he felt for the victims families, as do I and everyone else on here.
more stringent gun laws = more illegal guns. if guns are outlawed, only outlaws will have guns. listen i don't want to distract from the terrible acts that happened at VT, but damn it, gun control is NOT the answer. they already have God knows how many laws on handguns, and they don't enforce them, sad but true. i am a pro gun person, i am a responsible gun owner and i have a ccw. should they arm the profs in colleges, maybe, it should be a choice, should they arm high school and lower teachers, definitely no. am i for a trained security team that can respond before the police arrive YES, actually i would volunteer for this duty and have thought about making a business out of it, but i don't know where to start. granted, security for a college is MUCH harder to undertake than a high school, but it can be done. surveillance equipment isn't hard to install and monitor, it's the team of security people that is the hard part.