I hear a lot of people on these boards that say the AK 101 and AK 47 are much better than the G36E, so I was wondering why you think so. Let me just say that I am still fairly new to this game and my only reason for asking is to try and get better. I am by no means partial to the G36E, but it is the gun I use most often when I play medic (which is the class I play most). After hearing some comments that the AK's are better, I tried them out for a few rounds. But I must be missing something because I did terrible with those guns. If anyone does think that the AK's are better than the other weapons for the medic kit, please tell me why. And if you wouldn't mind, give me some tips on how to become better with this gun. There must be some reason that most all the frag vids I've seen have been with the AK. Thanks
try a different play style with the ak than you would with the g36. i find the ak much more suited to a true CQB role with full auto fire.
For some reason people have gone on a vendetta against the g63e, its weird. But the ak's are better for close quarter combat and g63e for mid to long range combat.
I'll explain this for you.<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
For some reason people have gone on a vendetta against the g63e, its weird. But the ak's are better for close quarter combat and g63e for mid to long range combat.
Basically, when people keep getting killed by a weapon from miles away but they themselves can't use it properly, they resort to moaning. It's simple Battlefield players psychology.
I call this phenomenon "The Battlefield whine syndrome".
trust him he can do siencejord wrote:
I'll explain this for you.<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
For some reason people have gone on a vendetta against the g63e, its weird. But the ak's are better for close quarter combat and g63e for mid to long range combat.
Basically, when people keep getting killed by a weapon from miles away but they themselves can't use it properly, they resort to moaning. It's simple Battlefield players psychology.
I call this phenomenon "The Battlefield whine syndrome".
I shoot fine with the gun. It's just that it's so overpowered that when I do pick one up, I put it back down in favour of my other gun and a fairer round.jord wrote:
I'll explain this for you.<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
For some reason people have gone on a vendetta against the g63e, its weird. But the ak's are better for close quarter combat and g63e for mid to long range combat.
Basically, when people keep getting killed by a weapon from miles away but they themselves can't use it properly, they resort to moaning. It's simple Battlefield players psychology.
I call this phenomenon "The Battlefield whine syndrome".
technically - its not better
But, 6e is just weak and, takes no skill really.
But, 6e is just weak and, takes no skill really.
i used to whore the G36E,but now i stick with the AKs or the M16.the only time i ever use it is when i'm SAS because i don't care much for the L85A1.
True. The g36e is excellent for mid-long engagements. The AK's for CQC. If you try to prone and zoom with the AK's you are going to die a lot. It works in some cases, but not nearly as well as the G36E will. You need to learn to shoot without zooming in and getting closer to your enemy. Circling them, keep moving. If you can master circing your target while keeping your crosshairs on them, you will win almost always.<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
For some reason people have gone on a vendetta against the g63e, its weird. But the ak's are better for close quarter combat and g63e for mid to long range combat.
The reason the G36E is good is the initial deviation (.25)and the deviation added for each shot (.25). They are lower than the AK's initial (.45) and each shot (.45). The Ak's have the advantage with more power though. The 47 (37) and the 101 (38) will kill the enemy in 1 less shot than the G36E (30).
I also think the iron sights are a lot better on the G36E which aids longer range aiming. I am not alone: http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=64841
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
gg36e takes no skill, point'n click.
What you mean like all the other guns?Rickard.Jarl- wrote:
gg36e takes no skill, point'n click.
Would you prefer we all run around with pistols?
Run with M16A2 , it takes skill .jord wrote:
Would you prefer we all run around with pistols?
Funny you say that. If I pick up a 6e (revived with it) I refuse to use it. Pistol or knife. I can't possibly shame myself by using the 6e.jord wrote:
What you mean like all the other guns?Rickard.Jarl- wrote:
gg36e takes no skill, point'n click.
Would you prefer we all run around with pistols?
I'd rather not, i don't like the look of it.Longbow wrote:
Run with M16A2 , it takes skill .jord wrote:
Would you prefer we all run around with pistols?
I'm not going to pay for SF to not use the unlocks. You can feel free to, but don't force your opinions on others, it's as bad as trying to convert someone to a religion.
These posts are pointless. You have your opinion...great, but the OP asked the question, why are the AK's better than the G36E, then stated how he tried the AK's, then asked for advice on to use them. It was not a vote of which gun is better or a G36E bashing party. If you don't have anything worthwhile to contribute, then I beg of you, don't post.Rickard.Jarl- wrote:
gg36e takes no skill, point'n click.
OP, sorry for the interruption!
Bovine
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
OK, if you claim you're the best with the G36E you WILL be spat upon and also stoned to death - that is a certainty. The G36E is actually far more accurate and has 900rpm firing rate, it's "clean" and feels really good when you use it (the burst is music to my ears), but it just carries with it a culture of being exploited by unskilled players because in essence it's effective in almost anyone's hands - unless you have an unbearably high ping that is.
AK 101 and AK 47 are both extremely useful weapons WHEN USED RIGHT. It's much harder to go on a killing spree with the AK family than it is to go on one with the G36E but because of its higher damage and full auto capabilities, a dynamic player on the battlefield can cause mass carnage with that gun. The AK family is less accurate than the G36 family of weapons, but to a skilled and professional player who no longer relies on accuracy alone to kill the enemy, the AK can be more devastating than the G36E.
The reason you feel G36E is better than AK is because you don't use the AK enough. Use it lots, and you'll develop a range of strategies which will make you invincible with the AK. These are very different to those of the G36E (I've been using AKs for ages, and now when I turn back to using the G36E I suck enormously - I mean seriously, you don't know the definition of enormous until you've seen how awful I am with the G36E now).
AK 101 and AK 47 are both extremely useful weapons WHEN USED RIGHT. It's much harder to go on a killing spree with the AK family than it is to go on one with the G36E but because of its higher damage and full auto capabilities, a dynamic player on the battlefield can cause mass carnage with that gun. The AK family is less accurate than the G36 family of weapons, but to a skilled and professional player who no longer relies on accuracy alone to kill the enemy, the AK can be more devastating than the G36E.
The reason you feel G36E is better than AK is because you don't use the AK enough. Use it lots, and you'll develop a range of strategies which will make you invincible with the AK. These are very different to those of the G36E (I've been using AKs for ages, and now when I turn back to using the G36E I suck enormously - I mean seriously, you don't know the definition of enormous until you've seen how awful I am with the G36E now).
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I'm not trying to force you and others to use default AR's , I just want to see that you realise the fact that G36E takes a little to no skill , while M16\AK's require skill to own at medium\long range .jord wrote:
I'm not going to pay for SF to not use the unlocks. You can feel free to, but don't force your opinions on others, it's as bad as trying to convert someone to a religion.
Militant once said ( somthing like that ) : "use your goddamn G36E , but don't say you have skill" <> he's actualy right , because almost all G36E whores fail ( either in CQB or long range combat ) with other guns .
p/s for me SF is waste of my 20$ bucks , btw
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If you're talking about "skill" then try running around with a pistol on a normal server. That's skill.Longbow wrote:
I'm not trying to force you and others to use default AR's , I just want to see that you realise the fact that G36E takes a little to no skill , while M16\AK's require skill to own at medium\long range .jord wrote:
I'm not going to pay for SF to not use the unlocks. You can feel free to, but don't force your opinions on others, it's as bad as trying to convert someone to a religion.
Militant once said ( somthing like that ) : "use your goddamn G36E , but don't say you have skill" <> he's actualy right , because almost all G36E whores cant hit shit ( either in CQB or long range combat ) with other guns .
p/s SF is waste of my 20$ bucks , btw
There isn't a super massive differance between the AK and the G36. I can use both. However when i'm on USMC i won't use the M16.
GET THE FUCK OVER IT, WE DO NOT CARE!Longbow wrote:
I'm not trying to force you and others to use default AR's , I just want to see that you realise the fact that G36E takes a little to no skill , while M16\AK's require skill to own at medium\long range .jord wrote:
I'm not going to pay for SF to not use the unlocks. You can feel free to, but don't force your opinions on others, it's as bad as trying to convert someone to a religion.
Militant once said ( somthing like that ) : "use your goddamn G36E , but don't say you have skill" <> he's actualy right , because almost all G36E whores fail ( either in CQB or long range combat ) with other guns .
p/s for me SF is waste of my 20$ bucks , btw
I've had the g36E for awhile now and I just don't see how it's that much more accurate or better than other guns.
In fact lately I've been using the AK-101 more and doing better with it. Then again with an accuracy of just 12% maybe I just suck.
In fact lately I've been using the AK-101 more and doing better with it. Then again with an accuracy of just 12% maybe I just suck.
Chill out man !<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
GET THE FUCK OVER IT, WE DO NOT CARE!
I'm just sick of people coming on the Internet and braggin a certain gun in a GAME is for 'noobs'. I tolerated it and now it just pisses me off.Longbow wrote:
Chill out man !<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
GET THE FUCK OVER IT, WE DO NOT CARE!
Agreed everyone likes/dislikes different weapons and classes it would be a boring world if we were all BF2 clones using the same weapons.<<<FTDM>>>Gen.Raven wrote:
I'm just sick of people coming on the Internet and braggin a certain gun in a GAME is for 'noobs'. I tolerated it and now it just pisses me off.
Now back on topic the G36e is a great weapon for the medic as you can hang back from the rest of your squad 5-10 metres and engage at med-long range and still have time to revive if anyone is killed, you need to be aware of what you squad is doing where they are on the map and what flag they are going for and be prepared to switch between AK & G36, as stated before the AK is great for CQB room clearing and when your squad is mooching about built up areas but for med-long range choose the G36e as it is a great weapon. Basically in my opinion its choose a weapon for each situation your think you are going into and be prepared to swap and change as the need arises.
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Quote of the year so far "Fifa 11 on the other hand... shiny things for mongos "-mtb0minime
Doesn't matter witch gun you use and what others tell you, most important is that if you get in to a firefight that you get out of it alive.
Watch the karkand medic videos for tips on how to use the AK and m16, they handle a lot differently from noob friendly guns like the G36E so using them properly takes a bit of practise.