Villain{NY}
Banned
+44|6794|New York
Marijuana and alcohol are both dangerous drugs when taken in the excess, the only difference between them is one is legal and the other isn't.

To the "Myth that Marijuana is addictive" comment.

The pot of decades past was less addictive than the strains of today so yes back then it may have been a myth.  With the advanced cultivating, hydroponic, and cross breeding techniques of today however, Marijuana can be addictive, both mentally and physically.
Psych0
Member
+5|6957|Quebec, Canada

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Psych0 wrote:

But here is my questions
Why would it be legal in Netherlands if it would affect your brain?
Actually it isn't legal in the Netherlands.  Apart from the huge restrictions on its sale (restricted to Cafes etc) it is also officially still illegal but not enforced.   Holland never decriminilised it, they just told the police to turn a blind eye to Cafes selling it.
I don't really know the law about it but i read somewhere that you could LEGALLY have 5 plants per home in Netherlands...

If someone live in Amsterdam or Netherlands how much does a joint(1g) cost in cafes? I'm Curious!
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|7000|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

Scorpion0x17 wrote:

I've been offered coke and speed maybe twice. Opium a couple of time. I've never been offered heroin, nor cocaine, nor meth.

When I was offered coke/speed/opium, I just said "no thanks, not my scene" and that was that. No pressure. No hard sell. No nothing.
True.  Also the only factor that does contribute to it being any sort of "gateway" drug is that it is illegal so the person you buy it from may well sell other illegal things.  Thus you have a contact and a peer preasure.  If it were legal then you wouldn't have a 'dealer' because you'd just get it from the shops.  Contact lost, chance of being offered it (and thus tempted) reduces dramatically.
An Enlarged Liver
Member
+35|7193|Backward Ass Kansas
Help, I', so drunk I can';t fins my pot.
Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7112|USA

Villain{NY} wrote:

Marijuana can be addictive, both mentally and physically.
I disagree.
Sir Aidyn Sage
DEATH FROM ABOVE!!!
+32|6814
MAN MADE BOOZE, GOD MADE POT...

WHO DO YOU TRUST?
CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|7020|Portland, OR, USA

Sir Aidyn Sage wrote:

MAN MADE BOOZE, GOD MADE POT...

WHO DO YOU TRUST?
Unfortunately, your logic is flawed... sorry to break it to you but there really isn't a god
Scorpion0x17
can detect anyone's visible post count...
+691|7216|Cambridge (UK)

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

Villain{NY} wrote:

Marijuana can be addictive, both mentally and physically.
I disagree.
I agree (with Mason4Assassin444) - marijuana can be midly psychologically addictive, but, afaik, there's no evidence to support the claim that it can be physically addictive.
Des.Kmal
Member
+917|7068|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

CommieChipmunk wrote:

Sir Aidyn Sage wrote:

MAN MADE BOOZE, GOD MADE POT...

WHO DO YOU TRUST?
Unfortunately, your logic is flawed... sorry to break it to you but there really isn't a god
Ahh, see... there is a double twist to that! There IS a God.



Double twist owned.

Anyway, my pothead as hell friend keeps telling me that Jesus smoked weed, and I lol @ it. I mean, its not devastating to your body, but it does have a negative effect, which rules Jesus out from smoking it.... well, he did drink wine. Im so confuzzled

But when you said man made booze, remember, Jesus drank wine, so thats not bad for you.





did i just ramble on in a stoned/dyslevic stupor? lmao
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Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6928|Communist Republic of CA, USA
If weed isn't addictive, why do people do it so much?  You like it and want more of it.  Sure it's easier to quit, chemically, than Alcohol, but don't tell me you can't get hooked on it.

And on the comparison of deaths between Weed and Alcohol, yes Alcohol will be higher, but what kills you isn't the Weed itself, rather the stupid shit you do while High.
BVC
Member
+325|7145

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

And on the comparison of deaths between Weed and Alcohol, yes Alcohol will be higher, but what kills you isn't the Weed itself, rather the stupid shit you do while High.
And people never do stupid shit when drunk, of course...
Major.League.Infidel
Make Love and War
+303|6928|Communist Republic of CA, USA

Pubic wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

And on the comparison of deaths between Weed and Alcohol, yes Alcohol will be higher, but what kills you isn't the Weed itself, rather the stupid shit you do while High.
And people never do stupid shit when drunk, of course...
I don't remember saying that they didn't, in fact I said that it will be higher.  It's just people claim Marijuana is harmless.
genius_man16
Platinum Star whore
+365|7128|Middle of nowhere
Well idk about your brain cell thing, b/c all the people i know who smoke Marijuana are dumb asses
keghog
Member
+2|6745
I like smoking if i have something to do, such as school. If I want to get really fucked up Ill drink.  I wish pot was legal tho...
jonsimon
Member
+224|6945

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

If weed isn't addictive, why do people do it so much?  You like it and want more of it.  Sure it's easier to quit, chemically, than Alcohol, but don't tell me you can't get hooked on it.
Same can be said about video games and gambling. Yet we don't ban those for being addictive.
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|7000|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

If weed isn't addictive, why do people do it so much?  You like it and want more of it.  Sure it's easier to quit, chemically, than Alcohol, but don't tell me you can't get hooked on it.

And on the comparison of deaths between Weed and Alcohol, yes Alcohol will be higher, but what kills you isn't the Weed itself, rather the stupid shit you do while High.
Do you masterbate regulary?  And would you say you were "hooked" on it?  Just because you do something regulary doesn't mean you're hooked on it.

P.S You're 1000 times more likely to do a life threating thing whilst drunk.  The video below sums that up nicely
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|7000|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth
The Streets summed this up perfectly for me with their song "The Irony Of It All".  So true!!!

BVC
Member
+325|7145

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

I don't remember saying that they didn't, in fact I said that it will be higher.  It's just people claim Marijuana is harmless.
Not everyone.  I for one have never claimed that, and I believe even NORML admits it.  The secret is sensible use.

Last edited by Pubic (2007-04-27 00:23:25)

Des.Kmal
Member
+917|7068|Atlanta, Georgia, USA

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

If weed isn't addictive, why do people do it so much?  You like it and want more of it.  Sure it's easier to quit, chemically, than Alcohol, but don't tell me you can't get hooked on it.

And on the comparison of deaths between Weed and Alcohol, yes Alcohol will be higher, but what kills you isn't the Weed itself, rather the stupid shit you do while High.
pfft, i have NEVER done anything life threatening while i was high(bar slapping a black chick on the ass and saying ghetto booty )

neither have any of friends while high.... it depends on the dumbass person.
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Mason4Assassin444
retired
+552|7112|USA

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

Pubic wrote:

Major.League.Infidel wrote:

And on the comparison of deaths between Weed and Alcohol, yes Alcohol will be higher, but what kills you isn't the Weed itself, rather the stupid shit you do while High.
And people never do stupid shit when drunk, of course...
I don't remember saying that they didn't, in fact I said that it will be higher.  It's just people claim Marijuana is harmless.
No one has or will ever die from marijuana consumption so yes alcohol related deaths will be much higher and always will be.

Now, prove to me marijuana is harmful.
MysteryJake
Member
+12|6658|California
I don't think its really a taxation thing either, Sure you can grow it yourself but you can say the same thing for many things, Fruits and Vegetables for example can be grown at your house but they can still be bought at a market. Although they can be grown they are bought more openly mostly because people are lazy and would rather have someone do the work than produce them themselves (that includes me). Who wants to spend their time growing their own marijuana when they can go to the local gas station/liquor store/market and buy a nice little pack of "cigaweeds/joints". The tobacco companies will most likely start mass producing it and could potentially research and create more potent plants just imagine "Marlboro Greens". That being said i think marijuana has great potential for taxation, I think its more of a social standard issue.

Last edited by MysteryJake (2007-04-30 02:53:27)

Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7011

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

No one has or will ever die from marijuana consumption so yes alcohol related deaths will be much higher and always will be.
Actually, it is theoretically possible to die from a marijuana overdose, same as anything.  And indirectly it can cause just as many deaths as alcohol.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7031|SE London

Bubbalo wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

No one has or will ever die from marijuana consumption so yes alcohol related deaths will be much higher and always will be.
Actually, it is theoretically possible to die from a marijuana overdose, same as anything.  And indirectly it can cause just as many deaths as alcohol.
Yes, but the amount you have to ingest is ludicrous. It would cost you hundreds of pounds to kill yourself through a weed overdose. To my knowledge there has never been a death from an overdose of weed recorded. What can kill people is the increase in heart rate, leading to heart attacks in some elderly or infirm users.

Indirectly it certainly won't cause as many deaths as alcohol. It causes less deaths through related health issues and causes less injuries and deaths as a result of actions taken while intoxicated than alcohol. I don't see how you can claim that indirectly it can cause as many deaths as alcohol.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|7099

Psych0 wrote:

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

Psych0 wrote:

But here is my questions
Why would it be legal in Netherlands if it would affect your brain?
Actually it isn't legal in the Netherlands.  Apart from the huge restrictions on its sale (restricted to Cafes etc) it is also officially still illegal but not enforced.   Holland never decriminilised it, they just told the police to turn a blind eye to Cafes selling it.
I don't really know the law about it but i read somewhere that you could LEGALLY have 5 plants per home in Netherlands...

If someone live in Amsterdam or Netherlands how much does a joint(1g) cost in cafes? I'm Curious!
About 5 euro.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6945

Bertster7 wrote:

Bubbalo wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

No one has or will ever die from marijuana consumption so yes alcohol related deaths will be much higher and always will be.
Actually, it is theoretically possible to die from a marijuana overdose, same as anything.  And indirectly it can cause just as many deaths as alcohol.
Yes, but the amount you have to ingest is ludicrous. It would cost you hundreds of pounds to kill yourself through a weed overdose. To my knowledge there has never been a death from an overdose of weed recorded. What can kill people is the increase in heart rate, leading to heart attacks in some elderly or infirm users.

Indirectly it certainly won't cause as many deaths as alcohol. It causes less deaths through related health issues and causes less injuries and deaths as a result of actions taken while intoxicated than alcohol. I don't see how you can claim that indirectly it can cause as many deaths as alcohol.
Tests on animals suggest it is physically impossible to consume enough THC through marijuana to kill yourself. The volume is so large in such a short amount of time typical tests for toxicity on animals are inconclusive because they cannot kill the animals. You'd need an IV of THC or soemthing.

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