BF2S Forums Prevent dumb punishers

Team Kills should be setup like friendly fire investigations after combat, sort of. Brain is right when a fight is on and there are bullets flying everywhere militarily the chances of a soldier being held accountable for a friendly fire are zip.  A radius of action is a great idea.

The real TK punishing should be for the obvious motor pool or flight line killings because some unbalanced player was mad at the guy in line ahead of him, just for being in line ahead of him. I say for non-combat motor pool TKs the killer should be assessed 6 pts for using any weapon or explosive to kill a friendly, 15 pts in a game gets you booted out of the game. In addition to awards TKers would get letters of reprimand in their files which could be veiwed like the awards are now. The TKer would be required to read the reprimand to rejoin a game lol and now if there was some way to make them write "i will not team kill" one hundred times the TKing would stop forever.

Vehicle TK road kills are another matter. Road kills are really "During Operations Maintenance" the tracks gotta be greased to keep rolling.

Actually I don't imagine that coding that would be very difficult, a radius check between 2 actors, BUT what about all those tk'ers who hit you in vehicles, horrific air vehicle crash tks, and morons driving on your mines and punishing, it's consideration for all the special cases that the programmers may not have the time for.  The other day an asshole squadmember ran around behind my squad blowing up my mines with grenades and tking everyone in my name.  I got kicked. 
Sounds like a good idea, but I find those tks happen far less frequently.
Punishing should only be allowed if the person fails to apologize! that's my rule..  They rarely do, and if they don't I'll make an effort not to heal them

The TKs from mines can be handled by having the engineer/sniper/commander "mark" the minefield using the Q menu or commanders mode menu. If a minefield is marked then no TK occurs. If the miner fails to mark his minefield then he can be punished. The marking should include flags that can be seen farther and more accurately than the red skull icon. The flags might also act as a lane marking and allow any friendly to pass over the mines without damage while still tripping up the enemy. Engineer kits would be more usefull this way and get more kills per game.

The issue of TK isn't the frustration that comes with being knocked out when you are about to break the enemy line with your tank. We have all felt that and it sux. I think it is whether the TK was intentional, or punishishable. Law never lets the victim alone judge whether an act was justified neither should the game. If the action is hot and heavy the TK should not even be an option - that said more and more BF2 servers are disabling TKs because they are currently problematic.

TKs should be enabled only for non-combat killing. Assuming a non-combat area TK, would it be too complicated to have the TKer unable to use a vehicle for 1 minute after the TK?

the only way to get rid of the retarded tkers and punishers is to just kill them all. track all their ips then go to their house and kill em...

I never punish for getting run over if I'm running at a vehicle to try and catch a ride.  It's my own stupidity for doing that.  I will punish someone for running me over when I'm not running towards the vehicle and they just run me over without apologizing.  Same things goes for explosives, I never punish for a TK caused by explosives of any type.  I either saw it and ignored it, or it was C4 on enemy command assets that me and a teammate were both trying to destroy.  Friendly Fire is a part of war, but use some common sense before you punish for a TK.  If I see you TK someone for a vehicle, you can bet I'm not going to give you ammo or first aid.  I may also accidently set up a mine in your path. 

I'm ok piloting a helicopter.  I know there are people who can fly better than I.  When that's the case I will usually let them fly.  But give me a chance to be a gunner in chopper every now and then.  Teamwork is what the game is about.  I have played about 1/3 of my total time in vehicles.  I would rather win the round on foot, rather than rack up points and lose because I was piloting a chopper when I know there is someone better at flying than me.

The TK punishment option should only be offered these areas:
-TK by Fire, Intentional non-combat area
-TK by Movement, Intentional non-combat area
-TK by Collision, Intentional non-combat area

non-combat area is a radius to enemy action, activity of TKed soldier at the time of TK, i.e., standing in a vehicle spawn point with no enemy present the TKer by Fire or flash grenadier, can be punished by demerits and lock-outs.

At a non-cap motor pool area like the USMC Karkand base where 10-20 people spawn and start running around and driving madly out with no enemy present, a TK by movement happens alot. While the moving vehicle is harder to avoid a roadkill so the vehicles must be going under x speed to avoid a punishment. If the dismounted soldiers are moving they cannot punish but if standing still for less than 5 seconds they can. Blocking a tank by standing next to it can only be done for 5 seconds then a TK by the moving tank is not punishable.

The collision TK is strange. A stationary tank hit by a moving buggy can be held responsible for destroying that buggy lol that's just wrong, fix the code.  When two vehicles are moving in any combat area and collide no punishment is offered. In most cases in a non-combat area the faster moving vehicle regardless of type should be the punishable party, next the vehicle "causing" a TK that is hit in the flank by another vehicle cannot be punished.

Look both ways before you cross the street kids....



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the TK in a combat radius is a harder subject to tackle....the easy part is the non-combat area.