blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|7151|Little Rock, Arkansas

reuters wrote:

..."The surgery is an attack on women's dignity," said Professor Jacques Lansac, president of The National College of Gynaecologists and Obstetricians of France. "We will not take part in a market that places value on the quality of a woman -- if she's good or not. It is an attack on women's liberty."...
http://www.reuters.com/article/wtMostRe … geNumber=3

I think this article brings up some valid points. First and foremost, it addresses the cultural divide between those of North African heritage and native French.

The important question I want to ask is, how do we go about changing cultural morays so that these women don't have to undergo surgical procedures to "prepare" them for marriage.

I don't know about in France, but most of my female friends had torn their hymen long before they had sex. Sports and bicycles were the most common cause. (yes, this is something we have discussed).

Obviously, we've overcome the need to marry a physical virgin in the US. How do we go about exporting that to the rest of the world?
klassekock
Proud Born Loser
+68|7036|Sweden
If you refer to the muslim world i have two words for you.

Good luck!

They are not really listening to The USA in just about anything at the moment so this is gonna be a tough one.
SineNomine
Panzerblitz
+37|7172|SPARTA
Plain and simple: Make the world America!
BVC
Member
+325|7145
A virgin is someone who hasn't had sex.  If they sex they are no longer a virgin.  Stitching up a flap of skin isn't going to change the fact that they've had sex and are thus no longer virgins...I gues their husbands-to-be really want to see a bit of blood on their knob come wedding night...

That said, if they want to pay a fee and have it done at a private hospital, wheres the problem?
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6895|The Land of Scott Walker
Physical virgin . . . is there any other kind?
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7005

Stingray24 wrote:

Physical virgin . . . is there any other kind?
One who has had her hymen busted without having yet had sex? She'd still technically be a virgin.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-02 16:00:19)

krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7229|Great Brown North

blisteringsilence wrote:

I don't know about in France, but most of my female friends had torn their hymen long before they had sex. Sports and bicycles were the most common cause.
thats actualy REALLY common
Sanjaya
Banned
+40|6676
You can't regain virginity. You can be a fake virgin again though. Then you can punch yourself in the first place for being dumb enough to lose it and then want to go through painful surgery to get it back.
Bonesaw
Member
+8|7068
i guess its kinda like fake boobs. You know they arn't real, but they are attractive to someone? lol
Yaocelotl
:D
+221|7099|Keyboard
That's BS because it won't give to women that "tightness" of a virgin girl. Once the male inserts his penis he'd go "WTF??? I can put here my pet dogs fighting and you wouldn't even feel it".
Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|7104|United States of America
I'm taking my wife to France.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6895|The Land of Scott Walker

CameronPoe wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Physical virgin . . . is there any other kind?
One who has had her hymen busted without having yet had sex? She'd still technically be a virgin.
Of course, women can have a broken hymen after being active in sports.  I was thinking more along the lines of if you're not a physical virgin, you're not a virgin at all.  Being a physical virgin is not defined by an intact hymen.

Last edited by Stingray24 (2007-05-02 18:08:02)

Major_Spittle
Banned
+276|7104|United States of America
All this talk about hymen is making me hungry.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,993|7081|949

What a great idea!

Pubic wrote:

that said, if they want to pay a fee and have it done at a private hospital, wheres the problem?
Agreed.  No one is forcing them.

I am more troubled with female genital mutilation in African countries than Muslim women in France having cosmetic surgery.
blisteringsilence
I'd rather hunt with Cheney than ride with Kennedy
+83|7151|Little Rock, Arkansas

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

What a great idea!

Pubic wrote:

that said, if they want to pay a fee and have it done at a private hospital, wheres the problem?
Agreed.  No one is forcing them.

I am more troubled with female genital mutilation in African countries than Muslim women in France having cosmetic surgery.
It's not the act of having it that bothers me, its the reasoning behind the act.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,993|7081|949

blisteringsilence wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

What a great idea!

Pubic wrote:

that said, if they want to pay a fee and have it done at a private hospital, wheres the problem?
Agreed.  No one is forcing them.

I am more troubled with female genital mutilation in African countries than Muslim women in France having cosmetic surgery.
It's not the act of having it that bothers me, its the reasoning behind the act.
Excuse me for being vulgar, but who wouldn't want to fuck a tight pussy?
Bonesaw
Member
+8|7068
lol because it doesn't make the pussy tight, it just puts the little flap of skin back (hymen)
ghostgr
177th Field Artillery
+39|7191|In your head
I say that if they reggret losing their virginity than they have the right to gain it back by any means. So I say let them do whatever.
The_Mac
Member
+96|6675
Interesting thread.

But honestly, its stupid people would get upset about these sort of things.

And I read that the hymen repairs itself. That and many girls have elastic hymens that don't actually break. I got that from teh wiki so it could be wrong.
theelviscerator
Member
+19|6738
So how does a male regain his virginity?

LOL at the whole moronic concept.

Virginity is a state of experience.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|7229|Great Brown North

ghostgr wrote:

I say that if they reggret losing their virginity than they have the right to gain it back by any means. So I say let them do whatever.
but... they dont get it back, they're just lieing to themselves
Elamdri
The New Johnnie Cochran
+134|7096|Peoria
Ok, I'm just gonna declare this FUBAR and be done with it.
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|7000|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth
Ahh good old "anti-throwing a sausage down an alleyway" surgery....
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6998|San Diego, CA, USA

krazed wrote:

ghostgr wrote:

I say that if they reggret losing their virginity than they have the right to gain it back by any means. So I say let them do whatever.
but... they dont get it back, they're just lieing to themselves
Man...in the good ol' days Virgins were really Virgins.  What is this world coming to!
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6998|San Diego, CA, USA

theelviscerator wrote:

So how does a male regain his virginity?

LOL at the whole moronic concept.

Virginity is a state of experience.
The question is, which parts of your body are still Virgin?

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