ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command
Sinse the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, the Arab world has relentlessly tried to destroy the state, and continues to this day with this goal.

The suffering of the "Palestinian " people can be directly attributed to the Arabs who subjugated these fellow Arabs to the refugee camps for the last 60 years, promising them they could return to their homes once Israel was destroyed, refusing to accept the partition of land set aside by the United nations for a future palestinian state.

While Israel has become a prosperous democratic nation, 59 years later the Palestinians are still fighting against Israel and the result is millions of their people living in camps. Their own leaders continue to stay in power by refusing to stop the terrorism and make peace. We all know about Arafats wife, Suha, who lives in Paris on a 100k per month allowance by the Palestinian Authority, but we don't know what happened to the billions of dollars Arafats secreted away to foreign bank accounts.

I can offer a personal guarantee that if the Palestinians would stop their incestant attacks and recognize  and accept Israel there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day and their own state shortly after.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Israel than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.
Lost Hope
Lurker
+20|6774|Brussels, Belgium

ATG wrote:

Sinse the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, the Arab world has relentlessly tried to destroy the state, and continues to this day with this goal.

The suffering of the "Palestinian " people can be directly attributed to the Arabs who subjugated these fellow Arabs to the refugee camps for the last 60 years, promising them they could return to their homes once Israel was destroyed, refusing to accept the partition of land set aside by the United nations for a future palestinian state.

While Israel has become a prosperous democratic nation, 59 years later the Palestinians are still fighting against Israel and the result is millions of their people living in camps. Their own leaders continue to stay in power by refusing to stop the terrorism and make peace. We all know about Arafats wife, Suha, who lives in Paris on a 100k per month allowance by the Palestinian Authority, but we don't know what happened to the billions of dollars Arafats secreted away to foreign bank accounts.

I can offer a personal guarantee that if the Palestinians would stop their incestant attacks and recognize  and accept Israel there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day and their own state shortly after.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Israel than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.
Peace could be achieved if the Palestinians did what you said AND if there was a progressive government in Israel.
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ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command
While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
Superslim
BF2s Frat Brother
+211|7139|Calgary
This will work.



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Last edited by Superslim (2007-05-07 10:29:43)

CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

ATG wrote:

Sinse the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, the Arab world has relentlessly tried to destroy the state, and continues to this day with this goal.

The suffering of the "Palestinian " people can be directly attributed to the Arabs who subjugated these fellow Arabs to the refugee camps for the last 60 years, promising them they could return to their homes once Israel was destroyed, refusing to accept the partition of land set aside by the United nations for a future palestinian state.

While Israel has become a prosperous democratic nation, 59 years later the Palestinians are still fighting against Israel and the result is millions of their people living in camps. Their own leaders continue to stay in power by refusing to stop the terrorism and make peace. We all know about Arafats wife, Suha, who lives in Paris on a 100k per month allowance by the Palestinian Authority, but we don't know what happened to the billions of dollars Arafats secreted away to foreign bank accounts.

I can offer a personal guarantee that if the Palestinians would stop their incestant attacks and recognize  and accept Israel there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day and their own state shortly after.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Israel than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.
lol

I think someone doesn't quite understand what 'Zionism' actually entails. It entails taking all lands between the Jordan and the Sinai - they're building settlements for a reason ye know. The Israelis are just as fucking bigoted, intransigent and sectarian as the Palestinians. Don't kid yourself. Don't be fooled by the well-spoken American accents and the wearing of slightly less ridiculous headwear.

PS I don't regard any country that grants guaranteed citizenship to people of a certain religion as a democracy.

PPS The Palestinians have had countless fruitless ceasefires in the past. It just gives the settlement-builders a handy break from the risk of attack.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-07 10:44:15)

Lost Hope
Lurker
+20|6774|Brussels, Belgium

ATG wrote:

While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
I meant someone like Yithzak Rabin and not some fuck like Benyamin Netanyahu, Ariel Sharon (what's up with him, is he dead or still in coma ?), Ehud Olmert and others.

And you also have the guys that killed Rabin, the extreme right wing fanatic bigots that would exterminate the Palestinians if they had the power. They usually create some Kibboutz in the middle of the Palestinians and make more problems.
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stef10
Member
+173|6929|Denmark

ATG wrote:

While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
Math FTW!
CoronadoSEAL
pics or it didn't happen
+207|6965|USA
lol
was this (edit: actually debatable and intellectual) thread inspired by "The SOLOUTION to Terrorism"?
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=72741

Last edited by CoronadoSEAL (2007-05-07 10:49:52)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command
I guess. The shear stupidity of that thread inspired me to make an attempt.
Sylvanis
........
+13|7082|Toronto, Ontario

ATG wrote:

refusing to accept the partition of land set aside by the United nations for a future palestinian state.
Yes, why can't they take a lesson from native Americans and accept a life on reserved land under subjugation by a foreign people under the power of an arbitrary authority?  Seems to have worked out well for them.

Last edited by Sylvanis (2007-05-07 11:01:01)

Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|7028|SE London

ATG wrote:

Sinse the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, the Arab world has relentlessly tried to destroy the state, and continues to this day with this goal.

The suffering of the "Palestinian " people can be directly attributed to the Arabs who subjugated these fellow Arabs to the refugee camps for the last 60 years, promising them they could return to their homes once Israel was destroyed, refusing to accept the partition of land set aside by the United nations for a future palestinian state.

While Israel has become a prosperous democratic nation, 59 years later the Palestinians are still fighting against Israel and the result is millions of their people living in camps. Their own leaders continue to stay in power by refusing to stop the terrorism and make peace. We all know about Arafats wife, Suha, who lives in Paris on a 100k per month allowance by the Palestinian Authority, but we don't know what happened to the billions of dollars Arafats secreted away to foreign bank accounts.

I can offer a personal guarantee that if the Palestinians would stop their incestant attacks and recognize  and accept Israel there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day and their own state shortly after.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Israel than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.
Oh dear.

You really don't seem to have much of an understanding of the facts of the situation.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

Bertster7 wrote:

ATG wrote:

Sinse the creation of the state of Israel in 1948, the Arab world has relentlessly tried to destroy the state, and continues to this day with this goal.

The suffering of the "Palestinian " people can be directly attributed to the Arabs who subjugated these fellow Arabs to the refugee camps for the last 60 years, promising them they could return to their homes once Israel was destroyed, refusing to accept the partition of land set aside by the United nations for a future palestinian state.

While Israel has become a prosperous democratic nation, 59 years later the Palestinians are still fighting against Israel and the result is millions of their people living in camps. Their own leaders continue to stay in power by refusing to stop the terrorism and make peace. We all know about Arafats wife, Suha, who lives in Paris on a 100k per month allowance by the Palestinian Authority, but we don't know what happened to the billions of dollars Arafats secreted away to foreign bank accounts.

I can offer a personal guarantee that if the Palestinians would stop their incestant attacks and recognize  and accept Israel there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day and their own state shortly after.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Israel than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.
Oh dear.

You really don't seem to have much of an understanding of the facts of the situation.
Oh dear, I suspect you are addicted to hate, if you think so.
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6997|CH/BR - in UK

stef10 wrote:

ATG wrote:

While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
Math FTW!
Yeah - math, like "if Billy knocks down 5 houses with his bulldozer, how many Israeli villages will there be in its place?" or "if 1 Israeli = 10 Palestinians, how many do you have to kill if one of yours was injured?"

No teaching of hatred involved in Israeli schools of course./sarcasm

-konfusion
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

ATG wrote:

I can offer a personal guarantee that if the Palestinians would stop their incestant attacks and recognize  and accept Israel there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day and their own state shortly after.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Israel than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.
I can offer a personal guarantee that if Israel would stop their incessant oppression and heavy handedness, and let Palestine have their own land there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day they pull out of the OT.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Palestine than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.

Isn't it amazing what you can do changing a couple of words?
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

konfusion wrote:

stef10 wrote:

ATG wrote:

While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
Math FTW!
Yeah - math, like "if Billy knocks down 5 houses with his bulldozer, how many Israeli villages will there be in its place?" or "if 1 Israeli = 10 Palestinians, how many do you have to kill if one of yours was injured?"

No teaching of hatred involved in Israeli schools of course./sarcasm

-konfusion
how about "if achmed fires these rockets from behind this school, how many palestinians will be killed by the israeli counterattack.  the bigger the body count, the bigger the headline and the more support we poor palestinian "freedom fighters" will get from world.  oh wait, not from our own fellow arab nations though.  they make billions in oil but cant afford to put money into our economy."


or "if they dont counterattack, we could claim how easy it is to strike at the hearts of the israelis and claim vicory for our cause"


sounds to me if you were an average israeli teenager, youd be pretty fucked regardless which path is chosen.  either the world hates and wishes you were dead or the palestinians hate you and are making you dead

Last edited by GunSlinger OIF II (2007-05-07 11:29:42)

konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6997|CH/BR - in UK

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

konfusion wrote:

stef10 wrote:


Math FTW!
Yeah - math, like "if Billy knocks down 5 houses with his bulldozer, how many Israeli villages will there be in its place?" or "if 1 Israeli = 10 Palestinians, how many do you have to kill if one of yours was injured?"

No teaching of hatred involved in Israeli schools of course./sarcasm

-konfusion
how about "if achmed fires these rockets from behind this school, how many palestinians will be killed by the israeli counterattack.  the bigger the body count, the bigger the headline and the more support we poor palestinian "freedom fighters" will get from world.  oh wait, not from our own fellow arab nations though.  they make billions in oil but cant afford to put money into our economy."
I agree. It's sad, isn't it? The thing is, as a country that has nothing to lose, you will do whatever it takes. That's why the situation keeps worsening. If the Arab countries around Palestine actually gave a rats ass about them, or if the world actually recognized Palestine as a country (a friend of my dad's couldn't get any work anywhere because he was Palestinian), maybe the situation would brighten up a bit.
It's not only Israel's fault, but neither is it only Palestine's.

-konfusion
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091

konfusion wrote:

It's not only Israel's fault, but neither is it only Palestine's.
yeppers.  but i like to put a whole lot of the blame on the ottoman empire.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

ATG wrote:

While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
Seems to me you need to stop watching FOX and start thinking by yourself.  Nobody needs to teach hatred to Palestinian kids, they hate because they have miserable lives courtesy of Israel's oppression and crimes against human rights.
Vilham
Say wat!?
+580|7213|UK

sergeriver wrote:

ATG wrote:

I can offer a personal guarantee that if the Palestinians would stop their incestant attacks and recognize  and accept Israel there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day and their own state shortly after.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Israel than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.
I can offer a personal guarantee that if Israel would stop their incessant oppression and heavy handedness, and let Palestine have their own land there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day they pull out of the OT.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Palestine than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.

Isn't it amazing what you can do changing a couple of words?
Peace from palestine yes. Peace from the ME no.

Some of you guys seem so wise sometimes but incredibly naive at other times.

Last edited by Vilham (2007-05-07 11:35:31)

ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

sergeriver wrote:

ATG wrote:

While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
Seems to me you need to stop watching FOX and start thinking by yourself.  Nobody needs to teach hatred to Palestinian kids, they hate because they have miserable lives courtesy of Israel's oppression and crimes against human rights.
I don't watch television, why do you think I spend so much time here. I don't go to foxnews.com, ever.

Perhaps that is why I can be objective about the issue and you can not.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6937|Menlo Park, CA
The Arabs are pathetic for pretending to "care" for the plight of the Palestinians. . . .

Saudi Arabia has all the money in the world to help build infastructure etc etc to help these people, yet doesnt. . . same could be said for Egypt! Iran has money to fund Hezbollah, but not to build buildings and schools in Gaza?? Hmm. . . The Arabs priority is to destroy Israel, not help the Palestinians.  The Palestinians are a pawn of aggressive Arab/Persian governments who use them as a scapegoat to further the hatred of Jews.

The only thing thats progressive on the Arab end is the schooling and indoctrination of hate and the practice of maryterdom.

The Israeli's aren't saints by any means, but for the most part they want to be left alone.  Unfortunately they are surrounded by enemies and have to take an aggressive stance by proxy.  Both populations (Arab and Israeli) would like to live in peace, but none wants to concede its viewpoints.  The Palestinians had a chance for their own state when Barak and Arafat went to Washington years ago. . . .Arafat turned down the proposal! When you are run by a terrorist for over 30 years, its hard to break the cycle of violence and the indoctrination of hate. 

When you have two stubborn governments who have contempt for each other, only a cataclysmic event could possible change the course of diplomacy/democracy. . . . I see a massive attack first before any meaningful peace could EVER be achieved in that region. . .aka WWIII

Last edited by fadedsteve (2007-05-07 11:39:46)

sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

Vilham wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

ATG wrote:

I can offer a personal guarantee that if the Palestinians would stop their incestant attacks and recognize  and accept Israel there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day and their own state shortly after.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Israel than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.
I can offer a personal guarantee that if Israel would stop their incessant oppression and heavy handedness, and let Palestine have their own land there would be instant peace for them, starting the very next day they pull out of the OT.

But they, like so many here would rather embrace hatred for Palestine than live in peace.
The solution is theirs.

Isn't it amazing what you can do changing a couple of words?
Peace from palestine yes. Peace from the ME no.

Some of you guys seem so wise sometimes but incredibly naive at other times.
What do you suggest?  Should Israel continue the oppression and killings, just because we don't know if the other Arab states would accept a peace treaty?  Maybe I'm naive.  But the current situation is not working very well imo.

ATG wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

ATG wrote:

While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
Seems to me you need to stop watching FOX and start thinking by yourself.  Nobody needs to teach hatred to Palestinian kids, they hate because they have miserable lives courtesy of Israel's oppression and crimes against human rights.
I don't watch television, why do you think I spend so much time here. I don't go to foxnews.com, ever.

Perhaps that is why I can be objective about the issue and you can not.
Oh, I'm objective.  I want Israel to do what they were going to do before they killed Rabin.
Please defend Israel for attacking Lebanon last year.

Last edited by sergeriver (2007-05-07 11:47:07)

GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
+1,860|7091
we should have the pope call for a reconquest of the holy hand.  that way good chrisitan morals will hold that place together.
sergeriver
Cowboy from Hell
+1,928|7204|Argentina

GunSlinger OIF II wrote:

we should have the pope call for a reconquest of the holy hand.  that way good chrisitan morals will hold that place together.
Holy great idea Batman!
konfusion
mostly afk
+480|6997|CH/BR - in UK

ATG wrote:

sergeriver wrote:

ATG wrote:

While Israel teaches its children math the Palestinians teach their kids hatred, and how to detonate a suicide vest.

Seems to me they are the ones that need a progressive government.
Seems to me you need to stop watching FOX and start thinking by yourself.  Nobody needs to teach hatred to Palestinian kids, they hate because they have miserable lives courtesy of Israel's oppression and crimes against human rights.
I don't watch television, why do you think I spend so much time here. I don't go to foxnews.com, ever.

Perhaps that is why I can be objective about the issue and you can not.
Objective... Objective!? Are you serious? You talk about Palestine teaching hatred while you completely ignore the fact that the same is done in Israeli schools. You talk about Palestinian terrorism while completely ignoring what caused it. You say that they are in refugee camps because of their terrorism, without putting the least blame on Israel for continuous violation of the Geneva Convention (human rights).

How is "objective" the right word for all the above?

-konfusion

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