_j5689_
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I was thinking of getting a hard drive that is 7200RPM since mine probably isn't, but I still use IDE hard drives because I don't have SATA.  I want to see if I can get one that will go faster on the slot too since mine is probably an ATA100.  I already know it requires ATA133 cables.
kylef
Gone
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Your hard drive probably is 7200 unless it is really old or a laptop drive.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7187|Riva, MD

leetkyle wrote:

Your hard drive probably is 7200 unless it is really old or a laptop drive.
The computer was made in 2002 or 3 so i'm not sure.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6964|N. Ireland
2002? That's recent! Your drive will be 7200 don't worry. Download Everest Home Edition, Go to Storage, Physical drives and it will tell you what drive you have. Then I can determine what RPM is has.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7187|Riva, MD

leetkyle wrote:

2002? That's recent! Your drive will be 7200 don't worry. Download Everest Home Edition, Go to Storage, Physical drives and it will tell you what drive you have. Then I can determine what RPM is has.
I'm not on my home computer, but I would like to see what this one has.  It's like a Windows 98 era computer with XP on it, lol.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7187|Riva, MD
Damn, Everest does EVERYTHING.
ReTox
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It's 7200.  No 5500 drives are made anymore (except laptops since mid-late 90s) and you would know if you had a 10,000 ($$$).

The easiest way to see if you have an ATA100+ drive is to see what colour the IDE connector is.  If it is black it is likely IDE 40 pin and ATA133 will not work.  If it is grey then it is likely IDE 80 pin and you're new drive should work without issue.

Last edited by ReTox (2007-05-07 12:01:14)

wingman_lajoda
Member
+17|7238|Gainesville, FL

_j5689_ wrote:

I was thinking of getting a hard drive that is 7200RPM since mine probably isn't, but I still use IDE hard drives because I don't have SATA.  I want to see if I can get one that will go faster on the slot too since mine is probably an ATA100.  I already know it requires ATA133 cables.
You can get an Sata or IDE controller card and use it to get better performance for the drive
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7187|Riva, MD

wingman_lajoda wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

I was thinking of getting a hard drive that is 7200RPM since mine probably isn't, but I still use IDE hard drives because I don't have SATA.  I want to see if I can get one that will go faster on the slot too since mine is probably an ATA100.  I already know it requires ATA133 cables.
You can get an Sata or IDE controller card and use it to get better performance for the drive
I heard that the downside to that is if I get a SATA hard drive and use a controller card, the SATA speed will be bottlenecked by the PCI slot because PCI has a much lower bandwidth than SATA.  Not to mention how expensive it all would be.
kylef
Gone
+1,352|6964|N. Ireland
You need to see my upgrade guide and earn some cash quickly
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7187|Riva, MD

ReTox wrote:

It's 7200.  No 5500 drives are made anymore (except laptops since mid-late 90s) and you would know if you had a 10,000 ($$$).

The easiest way to see if you have an ATA100+ drive is to see what colour the IDE connector is.  If it is black it is likely IDE 40 pin and ATA133 will not work.  If it is grey then it is likely IDE 80 pin and you're new drive should work without issue.
Newegg has 15,000RPM HDDs now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi … %2c000+RPM

I checked mine on Everest and it is a 7200, it is also Ultra-ATA/100 and the cables are grey so i'm a bit puzzled.

Edit: nvm you meant the connector, which is black and it is only 40 pins.

Last edited by _j5689_ (2007-05-07 13:45:50)

kylef
Gone
+1,352|6964|N. Ireland
yep scsi are frequest 15k'ers.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7187|Riva, MD

leetkyle wrote:

yep scsi are frequest 15k'ers.
Does 15K RPM make that much of a difference?

Last edited by _j5689_ (2007-05-07 13:47:24)

wingman_lajoda
Member
+17|7238|Gainesville, FL

_j5689_ wrote:

wingman_lajoda wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

I was thinking of getting a hard drive that is 7200RPM since mine probably isn't, but I still use IDE hard drives because I don't have SATA.  I want to see if I can get one that will go faster on the slot too since mine is probably an ATA100.  I already know it requires ATA133 cables.
You can get an Sata or IDE controller card and use it to get better performance for the drive
I heard that the downside to that is if I get a SATA hard drive and use a controller card, the SATA speed will be bottlenecked by the PCI slot because PCI has a much lower bandwidth than SATA.  Not to mention how expensive it all would be.
If you want a nice speed you can get the IDE controller and two 7,200 IDE Drives and make a Raid...
You can find very cheap controllers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi … f1%2f0%2b1
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|7187|Riva, MD

wingman_lajoda wrote:

_j5689_ wrote:

wingman_lajoda wrote:


You can get an Sata or IDE controller card and use it to get better performance for the drive
I heard that the downside to that is if I get a SATA hard drive and use a controller card, the SATA speed will be bottlenecked by the PCI slot because PCI has a much lower bandwidth than SATA.  Not to mention how expensive it all would be.
If you want a nice speed you can get the IDE controller and two 7,200 IDE Drives and make a Raid...
You can find very cheap controllers
http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductLi … f1%2f0%2b1
I have a spare PCI slot, but it is blocked by the fan on my Radeon X1650PRO.  What can I do about that?  Also, can you help me find some cheap 7200 IDE's?  Also, how does Raid work and what are the benefits?
ReTox
Member
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_j5689_ wrote:

I have a spare PCI slot, but it is blocked by the fan on my Radeon X1650PRO.  What can I do about that?  Also, can you help me find some cheap 7200 IDE's?  Also, how does Raid work and what are the benefits?
Don't block your video card fan no matter what.  It may get enough air but I wouldn't risk it.

Also, if your drive is ATA-100 then your motherbaord should support 80 pin IDE.  Find out what the return policy at your local supplier is and go buy a drive and an 80 pin cable.  I suspect it will work fine.

Now, as for Raid:

Raid is a Redundant Array of Inexpensive Disks and there are many types:

Raid 0 -  Striping - Requires at least 1 drive which is close as you can get to what you might think is "normal" drive function.  It writes files in rows on one disk.  Wicked fast speed but if you damage the drive it is all gone.  Also you can take more than one drive and stripe it with others to make one huge drive.

Raid 1 - Mirror - Works by writing the same data to two or more drives.  Slower but very reliable.  You can literally destroy 1 drive and simple replace it and the RAID card will rebuild the damaged drive.  Awesome for data safety.

Raid 1+0 or Raid 10 (it's not called Raid Ten) - Is a hybrid of striping and mirroring.  I did this with a server I just built.  Four 160 GB drives configured as one 320 GB drive.  I striped two to make one big drive and then the other two mirror those two.  I have speed and reliability.

There are other types of Raid but they really are for the enterprise and not the home market.  Most of the time you don't even need raid in a home PC.  In fact, apart from a slight speed increase, there is NO benefit from using raid on a single drive machine.  If you have the money though and can house a lot of drives it is a great way to maintain up time.

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