ATG
Banned
+5,233|6977|Global Command
And now for something completely different...
"The current number of unskilled jobs in this country is estimated at about three million today. The effects of technology may well mean a huge shrinkage of this employment market.

"When this happens, we will not simply have an army of the unemployed, we will have an army of the unemployable - a huge threat to social cohesion."
WTF England, your kids are blowing it.
Immigrants normally take up manual labor jobs, what are you going to do?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
Miller
IT'S MILLER TIME!
+271|7203|United States of America
They'll immigrate to the US like the Mexicans.
S.Lythberg
Mastermind
+429|6894|Chicago, IL
This is what happens to welfare states like those in europe.  France finally realized its problem and elected a conservative, now let's hope the UK does the same.  High pay, nice hours,  and great benefits sound great on paper, but it makes an economy unable to compete, and the workers lose in the long run.  The UK should sit in on a macroeconomics class sometime.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6996|San Diego, CA, USA
The U.S. is doing it...shouldn't everyone?
Bubbalo
The Lizzard
+541|7009

S.Lythberg wrote:

This is what happens to welfare states like those in europe.  France finally realized its problem and elected a conservative, now let's hope the UK does the same.  High pay, nice hours,  and great benefits sound great on paper, but it makes an economy unable to compete, and the workers lose in the long run.  The UK should sit in on a macroeconomics class sometime.
Three problems with your statement:

1)  The issue has nothing to do with the "welfare state".  It has to do with Brits preferring not to work and school and instead go into manual labour, oversaturating the market.  Same as with happens with all kinds of professions.

2)  UK is below many other more successful countries (including Germany) in terms of welfare expenditure as a percentage of GDP

3)  The US has been so successful because it's run on a war economy, so I hardly think you can talk.
blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|7093

Miller wrote:

They'll immigrate to the US like the Mexicans.
rolf good one
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6998|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

ATG wrote:

And now for something completely different...
"The current number of unskilled jobs in this country is estimated at about three million today. The effects of technology may well mean a huge shrinkage of this employment market.

"When this happens, we will not simply have an army of the unemployed, we will have an army of the unemployable - a huge threat to social cohesion."
WTF England, your kids are blowing it.
Immigrants normally take up manual labor jobs, what are you going to do?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
Two words, Daily Mail.
PureFodder
Member
+225|6733

ATG wrote:

And now for something completely different...
"The current number of unskilled jobs in this country is estimated at about three million today. The effects of technology may well mean a huge shrinkage of this employment market.

"When this happens, we will not simply have an army of the unemployed, we will have an army of the unemployable - a huge threat to social cohesion."
WTF England, your kids are blowing it.
Immigrants normally take up manual labor jobs, what are you going to do?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
I guess it's something only the British learn;

Dail Mail = Crazy Sensationalist Bullshit
BN
smells like wee wee
+159|7215
They can come to Australia. we have an unskilled labour crisis at the moment.
SwampDog
Member
+12|6918|Luton, England
They should just bring back national service, start a few wars, then get them all killed.
Operation Cannon Fodder sounds good.
TheEternalPessimist
Wibble
+412|7068|Mhz

Oh dear lord, the day something in the Daily Mail comes true I'll have 25 nympho wives and 10 million in the bank, basically it'll never happen.
madmurre
I suspect something is amiss
+117|7158|Sweden

Bubbalo wrote:

1)  The issue has nothing to do with the "welfare state".  It has to do with Brits preferring not to work and school and instead go into manual labour, oversaturating the market.  Same as with happens with all kinds of professions.
Right on spot same thing happens in Sweden and other countries it does´nt work.

Also when we live longer retire earlier and now we also start working as late as in the 30:s. The system is bond to break at some point i for one don´t expect to get any money when/if i retire "looking forward" to earn my pension myself and work til i die.
dc_involved
Member
+13|6978

=OBS= EstebanRey wrote:

ATG wrote:

And now for something completely different...
"The current number of unskilled jobs in this country is estimated at about three million today. The effects of technology may well mean a huge shrinkage of this employment market.

"When this happens, we will not simply have an army of the unemployed, we will have an army of the unemployable - a huge threat to social cohesion."
WTF England, your kids are blowing it.
Immigrants normally take up manual labor jobs, what are you going to do?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
Two words, Daily Mail.
JahManRed
wank
+646|7075|IRELAND

I'm not one for rubbishing an article because it comes from a certain news source........................well ok on this occasion I am.
ATG, please tell me this is not were you go to get your information on the UK..........you have quoted it before.

It is the paper of the right wing elitist rich white men. It constantly blames every ill in UK society on immigrants, unions, Labour, poor people and ethnic minorities. While harking back to the good old days of Maggie Thatcher and a more totalitarian society.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6943

S.Lythberg wrote:

This is what happens to welfare states like those in europe.  France finally realized its problem and elected a conservative, now let's hope the UK does the same.  High pay, nice hours,  and great benefits sound great on paper, but it makes an economy unable to compete, and the workers lose in the long run.  The UK should sit in on a macroeconomics class sometime.
What is this bull you're trying to feed us? Theyre not 'unable' to compete, theyre merely specializing in skilled labor jobs, much like the US is specializing in services.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6977|Global Command

JahManRed wrote:

I'm not one for rubbishing an article because it comes from a certain news source........................well ok on this occasion I am.
ATG, please tell me this is not were you go to get your information on the UK..........you have quoted it before.

It is the paper of the right wing elitist rich white men. It constantly blames every ill in UK society on immigrants, unions, Labour, poor people and ethnic minorities. While harking back to the good old days of Maggie Thatcher and a more totalitarian society.
LOL.

Are saying that the story is not true, or the source makes you uncomfortable?
"right wing elitist rich white men"   now, why wouldn't I read that rag?

So you all are saying England is not suffering the same fate as California, fine, I have been informed.
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|7016|Oxford

ATG wrote:

And now for something completely different...
"The current number of unskilled jobs in this country is estimated at about three million today. The effects of technology may well mean a huge shrinkage of this employment market.

"When this happens, we will not simply have an army of the unemployed, we will have an army of the unemployable - a huge threat to social cohesion."
WTF England, your kids are blowing it.
Immigrants normally take up manual labor jobs, what are you going to do?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
They're called Chavs here and are a growing problem mainly resulting from our shit state education system. Chav parents are also to blame. If I had kids I'd do everything to make sure they were educated privately. I was learning Latin at 6 years old at my prep school and went to a state school for the day as an open day thing and they were all playing in the sand and hand painting. I'm all for letting kids be kids but keep the learning at school and the playtime for home.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6977|Global Command

RicardoBlanco wrote:

ATG wrote:

And now for something completely different...
"The current number of unskilled jobs in this country is estimated at about three million today. The effects of technology may well mean a huge shrinkage of this employment market.

"When this happens, we will not simply have an army of the unemployed, we will have an army of the unemployable - a huge threat to social cohesion."
WTF England, your kids are blowing it.
Immigrants normally take up manual labor jobs, what are you going to do?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
They're called Chavs here and are a growing problem mainly resulting from our shit state education system. Chav parents are also to blame. If I had kids I'd do everything to make sure they were educated privately. I was learning Latin at 6 years old at my prep school and went to a state school for the day as an open day thing and they were all playing in the sand and hand painting. I'm all for letting kids be kids but keep the learning at school and the playtime for home.
So you aren't dismissing the story like everybody else because you dislike the link?


+1
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|7016|Oxford

ATG wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

I'm not one for rubbishing an article because it comes from a certain news source........................well ok on this occasion I am.
ATG, please tell me this is not were you go to get your information on the UK..........you have quoted it before.

It is the paper of the right wing elitist rich white men. It constantly blames every ill in UK society on immigrants, unions, Labour, poor people and ethnic minorities. While harking back to the good old days of Maggie Thatcher and a more totalitarian society.
LOL.

Are saying that the story is not true, or the source makes you uncomfortable?
"right wing elitist rich white men"   now, why wouldn't I read that rag?

So you all are saying England is not suffering the same fate as California, fine, I have been informed.
It's a tabloid. The only rich people who read it are football players. ATG, this is a really bad source to quote from. Most educated UK residents won't give it the time of day.
{HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy
Member
+69|7156|th3 unkn0wn

RicardoBlanco wrote:

ATG wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

I'm not one for rubbishing an article because it comes from a certain news source........................well ok on this occasion I am.
ATG, please tell me this is not were you go to get your information on the UK..........you have quoted it before.

It is the paper of the right wing elitist rich white men. It constantly blames every ill in UK society on immigrants, unions, Labour, poor people and ethnic minorities. While harking back to the good old days of Maggie Thatcher and a more totalitarian society.
LOL.

Are saying that the story is not true, or the source makes you uncomfortable?
"right wing elitist rich white men"   now, why wouldn't I read that rag?

So you all are saying England is not suffering the same fate as California, fine, I have been informed.
It's a tabloid. The only rich people who read it are football players. ATG, this is a really bad source to quote from. Most educated UK residents won't give it the time of day.
Maybe it's time ATG gave The Sun a go as a source for news on the UK (you'll get all the info on the UK you'll ever need on page 3 mate), or better still, maybe the Daily Star

Last edited by {HMS}_Sir_Del_Boy (2007-05-08 05:42:50)

RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|7016|Oxford

ATG wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:

ATG wrote:

And now for something completely different...

WTF England, your kids are blowing it.
Immigrants normally take up manual labor jobs, what are you going to do?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
They're called Chavs here and are a growing problem mainly resulting from our shit state education system. Chav parents are also to blame. If I had kids I'd do everything to make sure they were educated privately. I was learning Latin at 6 years old at my prep school and went to a state school for the day as an open day thing and they were all playing in the sand and hand painting. I'm all for letting kids be kids but keep the learning at school and the playtime for home.
So you aren't dismissing the story like everybody else because you dislike the link?


+1
I hate the link, but to a worryingly large extent it's true. I see it everyday, 15 yr old girls pushing prams and gangster wannabes stabbing the fuck out of people so their big brothers think they're hard. It's getting worse every year.
Ninja_Monkey
I TK For Blackhawks
+60|7012|UK

RicardoBlanco wrote:

ATG wrote:

RicardoBlanco wrote:


They're called Chavs here and are a growing problem mainly resulting from our shit state education system. Chav parents are also to blame. If I had kids I'd do everything to make sure they were educated privately. I was learning Latin at 6 years old at my prep school and went to a state school for the day as an open day thing and they were all playing in the sand and hand painting. I'm all for letting kids be kids but keep the learning at school and the playtime for home.
So you aren't dismissing the story like everybody else because you dislike the link?


+1
I hate the link, but to a worryingly large extent it's true. I see it everyday, 15 yr old girls pushing prams and gangster wannabes stabbing the fuck out of people so their big brothers think they're hard. It's getting worse every year.
this guys has a point i really not surpised with this everyone in this country seemed to be a moron
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6977|Global Command
Good, it was looking like between post 17 and 19 you realized this was unpopular with the Brits and piled on.

The National Enquire is a tabloid here, and sometimes gets the scoop on a real story.
RicardoBlanco
The English
+177|7016|Oxford

ATG wrote:

Good, it was looking like between post 17 and 19 you realized this was unpopular with the Brits and piled on.

The National Enquire is a tabloid here, and sometimes gets the scoop on a real story.
Credit where it's due and I don't jump on bandwagons easily.
=OBS= EstebanRey
Member
+256|6998|Oxford, England, UK, EU, Earth

RicardoBlanco wrote:

ATG wrote:

And now for something completely different...
"The current number of unskilled jobs in this country is estimated at about three million today. The effects of technology may well mean a huge shrinkage of this employment market.

"When this happens, we will not simply have an army of the unemployed, we will have an army of the unemployable - a huge threat to social cohesion."
WTF England, your kids are blowing it.
Immigrants normally take up manual labor jobs, what are you going to do?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/a … p;ito=1490
They're called Chavs here and are a growing problem mainly resulting from our shit state education system. Chav parents are also to blame. If I had kids I'd do everything to make sure they were educated privately. I was learning Latin at 6 years old at my prep school and went to a state school for the day as an open day thing and they were all playing in the sand and hand painting. I'm all for letting kids be kids but keep the learning at school and the playtime for home.
Hey, I went to a state school you pompous bugger,

I challenge you to an IQ test......

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