Pigskinn
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+5|6816

G3|Genius wrote:

why does the left make such a stink about FOX news leaning the right when CNN, MSNBC, and all the network newses are OBVIOUSLY left?

it's a double standard, yes, but the standard is not where the left would have you think it is.
Because they have a mental disorder.

Pigskinn
The_Mac
Member
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People will watch whatever TV station they want to. If FOX was really encouraging hate, the other competing News stations would really pounce on 'em for it.
As it is, I think FOX is seen as more conservative is because they employ both conservatives and liberals. The fact is that the conservatives' opinions are more sound and thus the liberals are outclassed.

I personally use drudge report.
ATG
Banned
+5,233|6976|Global Command

CameronPoe wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

(c) "North Carolina Debates Use of Koran, Other Non-Christian Texts During Court Hearings." So what? Swearing on a book of faith is pretty much a trinket of a gesture. If you're not strong in your beliefs, it won't mean much. If you're swearing on a book you don't even believe in, then what's the significance? The title and article's content seems pretty unassuming to me.
The title on the main page states: Koran v Bible - if that isn't sensationalist and tribalistic I don't know what is. It blows the issue out of all proportion and alludes to some sort of clash of civilisation which just isn't happening in the US.
No, it points out that in America, Muslims can lobby that the courts mention the Koran as well as the Bible.

We all know what would happen to Christians advocating the bible being taught in Saudi Arabia.

Last edited by ATG (2007-05-08 19:43:21)

Souls
Member
+14|7110|Garden City, KS. USA
I think the flag flying picture is an accurate portrait of whats going on now in Greensburg. There are many flags flying there. Ive seen them... I live less then 20 miles from there.  To think Fox is doing something subliminal is just silly.
Pigskinn
Member
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The_Mac wrote:

People will watch whatever TV station they want to. If FOX was really encouraging hate, the other competing News stations would really pounce on 'em for it.
As it is, I think FOX is seen as more conservative is because they employ both conservatives and liberals. The fact is that the conservatives' opinions are more sound and thus the liberals are outclassed.

I personally use drudge report.
I second that.........
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

DBBrinson1 wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:


Knowing you, you'd probablly would brag about being kick off of it. lol
I'd love to take that shithead Bill O'Reilly down to China Town! He was in Dublin recently at Trinity College but I couldn't attend due to work commitments.
Oh well.  You missed you chance to become enlightened.  I've derailed this thread enough...
Too much flourine in the water down in FL, eh?...
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6727

Pigskinn wrote:

Because they have a mental disorder.

Pigskinn
I should be playing wingnut bingo with this guy. I can't play the drinking game because if I had a shot every time he regurgitated one of these simplistic talking points, I'd be beyond legally drunk and heading for legally dead.
HunterOfSkulls
Rated EC-10
+246|6727

Turquoise wrote:

Too much flourine in the water down in FL, eh?...
I'd be inclined to suspect steroids and lead, myself.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina
As a sidenote, it's always good to remember that any media source that doesn't openly support the administration is liberally biased.

...at least that's how the neocons seem to look at it....
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
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Turquoise wrote:

As a sidenote, it's always good to remember that any media source that doesn't openly support the administration is liberally biased.

...at least that's how the neocons seem to look at it....
Opposite was in effect during the Clinton administration. It's just that everybody unfairly persecuted Bubba, right?

Last edited by unnamednewbie13 (2007-05-08 21:27:06)

Catbox
forgiveness
+505|7163
http://www.cnn.com/US/     Its on CNN also...

And it is a big deal when the authorities stop something like this.
I would imagine you would be happy that the Country you live in protected the people of your country as well...  Im glad that there are people that can weigh the issues rationally outside of these forums in real life... I tell people what some of you guys try to suggest or prove and we get a good laugh...
Love is the answer
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6852|North Carolina

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

As a sidenote, it's always good to remember that any media source that doesn't openly support the administration is liberally biased.

...at least that's how the neocons seem to look at it....
Opposite was in effect during the Clinton administration. It's just that everybody unfairly persecuted Bubba, right?
Actually, I would argue that this demonstrates exactly why the media isn't just liberal.  It's sensational.  It fixates on whatever the juiciest scandals are at the time -- whether they're committed by conservatives or liberals.  So, the mainstream media can be just as conservative as it is liberal, depending on what's going on in the world.

Remember how complicitly hawkish and conservative the media was right before the Iraq War?  They were just as supportive of the war back then as they are against it now.
Harmor
Error_Name_Not_Found
+605|6995|San Diego, CA, USA

Cerpin_Taxt wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

ATG wrote:

So Cam, do you disagree with the headline, or to them writing news about the story?
It's not the content I take issue with - it's the way they're presented and the subtle allusions and subliminal messages that get on my nerves.
Which is why they are #1 in the ratings. It obviously caught your attention.
https://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2006/images/narrative%20charts/cable/cable%20C.JPG
Source: http://www.stateofthenewsmedia.org/2006 … mp;media=6


Wonder why Fox is still on top?  Perhaps they at least try to have both sides to a debate instead of the same ol' liberal bias.
B.Schuss
I'm back, baby... ( sort of )
+664|7288|Cologne, Germany

To suggest that big private news corporations hand-pick certain stories to suit their own political or financial agenda is really nothing new. TV stations need money to survive, which is why they'll got to great lengths to promote their programs.

But that is true for all private news corporations / TV stations. And even the state-funded companies, such as the BBC choose what stories they think are newsworthy. Their selection principles might not be as driven by corporate interests, but it's a selection none the less.

IMHO, it is not about what or how news are reported, it is what people make of it, and wether they accept it as it is reported. As long as people don't make Foxnews ( or any other big broadcaster ) their only source of information and remain open to other sources of news, I'm fine with Fox.

And btw, news are a fast-paced business, especially online. If you look at Foxnews.com today, you'll find they run totally different stories than yesterday. Paris Hilton ftw...

Bias is a two-way street.
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|7002

Harmor wrote:

Wonder why Fox is still on top?  Perhaps they at least try to have both sides to a debate instead of the same ol' liberal bias.
lol. It is isn't very balanced when they switch the mic off on any liberal saying things they don't want to hear...

The reason it's on top is because it's watched by those who hate it and those who like it.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-09 00:22:57)

thanks_champ
Member
+19|6969

RoosterCantrell wrote:

I do enjoy the fact that FOX's Goebbels-esque tactics have made every rational minded person well aware of thier double standards and distortions of the news to the point where they no longer have any real credit left.
Couldn't have said it better.
fadedsteve
GOP Sympathizer
+266|6938|Menlo Park, CA
I love how people bash FOX news. . . .

Just like people who bash the USA!

Boy. . .Its hard being #1!! lol, no respect!

Fox news is great, I watch it all the time LOL!! Has better anchors, no left wing bullshit spin, its my kind of network. Just so happens to be THE #1 station for news too!! Not too mention it royally pisses off the left wing idiots here in the USA and abroad!! good stuff!!

Sorry libs your stations suck!! Cause no one buys the shit your shovelin'!!
theelviscerator
Member
+19|6736

CameronPoe wrote:

http://img82.imageshack.us/img82/2497/patheticim6.jpg

Please peruse the screenshot I captured of the current face of the FOX 'News' website.

'The Town That Won't Die' - captioning an Iwo Jima/Sept.11-esque flagraising event. This story must mark one of the proudest moments in US history, judging by the picture...

'FBI Smashes Jihad Plot to Kill GIs In Name of Allah' - a story which, going on the title, must mean that the US is ***oh my gosh run for the hills*** under constant daily threat from attacks by those darned muslims.... (I wonder why they wanted to attack soldier and not civilians? And what kind of ignoramus asks some bloke to burn people in islamic garb firing rifles in the air onto DVD??????????)

'Court Weighs Koran v Bible' - a story which, going on the title, MUST mean that muslims are taking over and destroying America and it won't be long before you won't be able to drive to the shops with all them mosques in the way!!! 

This channel runs off the basest and most primal drivers unconsciously beavering away in every human mind: fear and tribalism. It's pathetic, in fact it's worse than pathetic. Any person living under a rock for the last ten years reading this tripe would imagine that muslims brandishing explosives, mortars and RPGs were swarming onto Delaware Beach on D-Day style landing crafts to meet their brethren in 'New Mecca' on the River Hudson!!! I've been to America many times and spent 4 months there once in one stint. Did I spot any muslims? Not really, none that particularly stood out. How can FOX be portraying an America on the verge of becoming the next Islamic Caliphate ffs. It really is ridiculous beyond words.

The bulk of the main page is basically inciting hatred against Muslims in general. Click on my screenie and it will take you to a story that is about whether the bible should be the sole item upon which you can swear an oath. It so happens that it was brought up by a muslim yes but read on. SETH COHEN (Jewish name) from the ACLU happens to be her spokesperson:

"This is an important issue that affects thousands of people of faith across North Carolina who are not of the Christian faith."
And there's a little paragraph tucked away right down at the bottom:

Several Jewish members of the state chapter of the ACLU have filed affidavits indicating they would prefer to swear upon the Old Testament, one of the religious texts of their faith, according to court documents.
It seems to me that it ain't exactly the jihadist muslim crusade FOX makes it out to be on the main page after all!!! As an atheist myself I would find it degrading to have my principles sidelined in a courtroom by carrying out some meaningless gesture on a book that means nothing to me.

You see what FOX are doing here don't you? Koran v Bible. Us v Them. Holy War. The 6 supposed 'Jihadists' intending to carry out their task 'In the name of Allah' - Allah isn't the fucking problem - their mentality is!!!! By implicating Allah in the whole 'mission' they are subliminally implicating all of islam. They are evil divisive cunts and they should be strung up by a regulator. Goebbels would be smiling with glee at their efforts in perfecting his art.

The flagraising picture is typically nationalistic subliminally recalling 9/11 and Iwo Jima on a page cluttered with stories about muslims that have been blown out of ALL proportion. It is designed to stir up that base emotion of tribalism and 'kill the enemy', when taken in context with the main stories on the front page.

They're no better than the Hamas Mickey Mouse children's 'Hate Israel' programs..

FOX News - GO FUCK YOURSELF YOU WORTHLESS SHITSTAIN OF A HATEMACHINE

[/rant]
More proof some people can't handle the truth basically.



You don't like Fox News don't watch it.

Islam has declared war on the West.

The head in sand types said much the same about hitler in WWII.

Give him what he wants he will go away.

You sound just like Chamberlain.


Apathetic Pacifists, cowards who only get more people killed in the long run.
CameronPoe
Member
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theelviscerator wrote:

More proof some people can't handle the truth basically.



You don't like Fox News don't watch it.

Islam has declared war on the West.

The head in sand types said much the same about hitler in WWII.

Give him what he wants he will go away.

You sound just like Chamberlain.


Apathetic Pacifists, cowards who only get more people killed in the long run.
You really are gullible aren't you. How unbelievably general is that statement: 'Islam has declared war on the west'? It sounds quite like 'Jews are creating a global network... yadda, yadda, yadda' from 1930s Germany. Grow the fuck up. You've probably never met a muslim in your life.

Who is this one central voice of the whole of Islam of which you speak and when did he declare 'war on the west'? There isn't one. Osama Bin Laden is a chump in a cave representative of a minority of crackpots. Do you plan on attacking Turkey anytime soon? Lots of muslims there.

Radical Islam is not in control of any government on the planet since the toppling of the Taliban so I hardly think your Hitler's Germany analogy works.... but I guess that doesn't matter to you. Radical Islam is a minor bunch of criminals in the context of the 1 billion practicing muslims on this planet.

It seems some people will never understand the difference between conventional warfare and terrorism. Two things that must be fought in VERY very different ways.

Last edited by CameronPoe (2007-05-09 03:22:05)

Braddock
Agitator
+916|6737|Éire

fadedsteve wrote:

I love how people bash FOX news. . . .

Just like people who bash the USA!

Boy. . .Its hard being #1!! lol, no respect!

Fox news is great, I watch it all the time LOL!! Has better anchors, no left wing bullshit spin, its my kind of network. Just so happens to be THE #1 station for news too!! Not too mention it royally pisses off the left wing idiots here in the USA and abroad!! good stuff!!

Sorry libs your stations suck!! Cause no one buys the shit your shovelin'!!
You know what ... the fact that you love FOX news does not surprise me one bit! It's lowest common denominator news. I studied psychology and semiotics as part of my visual communications degree and I find FOX News to be the most cynical and manipulative of all the News stations (Al Jazeera isn't even close to it's level of bias, the only thing close to it would be North Korean or possibly Cuban news - though I haven't seen as much of that).

It's not just the news items it selects for emphasis, it's the way its presents the items and creates subtle (lol) connections between items. Like Poe mentioned, anyone who looks at that image of the flag immediately thinks 9/11 (it's an old semiotic trick, the people who select these images know full well what connotations they will invoke) and place it beside some negative stories about Islam and Islamic culture and voila ...you have a nice Islamophobic God Bless America news spread.

I actually like FOX news, it's the funniest damn thing on TV, it just scares me that some people might actually take it seriously.

PS: This post is fair and balanced.
jonsimon
Member
+224|6942
Fox news is so dumb they spelled Faux wrong.
13rin
Member
+977|6926

HunterOfSkulls wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Too much flourine in the water down in FL, eh?...
I'd be inclined to suspect steroids and lead, myself.
Nah.  Hot, scantily clad women in the water.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
heggs
Spamalamadingdong
+581|6835|New York
They definetly phrased those headlines to start trouble. This is one of the reasons why I hate the news. Their 'reporting' is clearly substandard and only concerned with striking fear into the general populous. In fact, I just hate journalists as a whole. Their insincerity and lack of compassion, not to mention the fact that just about all of them report with bias information, drives me up the fucking wall.
Remember Me As A Time Of Day
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6737|Éire
FOX News ...lol

I'm still waiting for that swarm of 'Africanised killer bees' to invade that they like to warn us about every so often!
usmarine
Banned
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Funny thing is.  You go to their website, which increases their traffic, which makes their numbers climb even higher.  GJ

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