US Aircraft choice by DICE?

2007-05-10 19:08:13

#26

CodePhoeniX: Member; +13|6482|USA

twz_stryker wrote:
When I said USMC, I mean the team in the game, the Raptor is an Air Force only jet at this time. Where the F-35 is a Joint Strike Fighter for both US and United Kingdom.

The Raptor has the ability to lock on and fire all missiles even before you noticed it in the air at all. The one scenario that the Air Force ran was 10 F-16's where to take down 1 Raptor in a simulated dog fight. The F-16's hadn't even had time to get their bearings on the Raptor when they all got Kill Msg's. The Raptor had already locked on and fired with out them knowing. Part of the stealth capability of the Raptor. My first response was holy shit. And again this is just the data we are allowed to know. I am really curious as to the full potential of the Jet.

Stryker

Well, sounds odd since the F-22 has 6 aim-120's in the under carriage and 2 aim-9's in the sides i don't see how it killed all 10 simultaneously...
Couldn't of used guns, if your in range for guns chances you cant get a lock on 8 other planes and then gun 2 down...

Yes it can carry external weapons, but that severely reduces its stealth

as someone said the F-22 is not suited to a carrier platform, and DICE may of wanted a VTOL just for kicks, or found that is what the best suited for those maps

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2007-05-10 21:28:46

#27

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6591|New Haven, CT

I don't see anyone mentioning that the F-35 is stealth. You wouldn't need a Raptor to have an undetectable plane. A realistic F-35 would be, too.

2007-05-10 21:30:27

#28

Parker: isteal; +1,452|6661|The Gem Saloon

fuck it, why not put in an AWACS?
then the pilots dont even have to see each other...just fire missles blindly and the computers do the job.

2007-05-10 21:35:25

#29

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6591|New Haven, CT

I don't think that would provide an enjoyable gaming experience.

2007-05-10 23:53:37

#30

bastardrat72: Member; +3|6850

For more info on the F22's latest exercises check out http://www.f22-raptor.com/media/documen … 010807.pdf 144-0 KD ratio at Northern Edge and I saw another article awhile back where Raptors went 84-3 at Red Flag, and those were only because the Red forces were allowed to regenerate and get back into the fight, causing the Raptors to run out of missles. In one last-minute fight, a Raptor crossed the merge with 3 F-16's and downed 2 of them with guns before the third was able to take a sidewinder shot.

2007-05-11 00:24:39

#31

-CARNIFEX-[LOC]: Da Blooze; +111|6921

The physical capabilities of an aircraft-its maneuverability, maximum speed, etc.- are of little matter in comparison to the F-22, because the F-22's stealth capabilities, combined with the most sophisticated long range weapons platforms yet seen in a strike aircraft, will down the enemy fighters before they even see it coming...
Comparing more conventional jets to the F-22 is like comparing a P-47 to a MiG-29.

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2007-05-11 00:50:11

#32

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6706|Brisbane, Australia

nukchebi0 wrote:
I don't see anyone mentioning that the F-35 is stealth. You wouldn't need a Raptor to have an undetectable plane. A realistic F-35 would be, too.

It doesn't matter, there is no radar to detect it. There isn't some radar screen you see it on, you see it flying over your head. For all we know it could be realistically stealthed in game - we don't have a radar to test it with (except possibly the UAV).

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2007-05-11 00:52:15

#33

Bullet_Force: Member; +3|6464|Australia

I know its one of the booster packs, but I've always thought the A-10 Warthog should have been included in BF2.

2007-05-11 03:39:19

#34

Stormscythe: Aiming for the head; +88|6816|EUtopia | Austria

I'm sorry if that's a little offtopic, but would you seriously assume that any country on earth would be so stupid to attack the US on their motherland (except for terrorist, who usually don't fly fighter jets) and engage them even more in air combat? I mean, there's about no way of getting a stealth carrier close enough to the US coast so one could even launch an attack. What for does the US Air Force then possess jets that are not STOL/VTOL capable?

2007-05-11 04:15:07

#35

elite.mafia: Banned; +122|6721|USA

howler_27 wrote:
F-35 is not a lighter "version" of the F-22, it's a totally different platform with different roles. Besides, to my knowledge, the F-22 is not a carrier capable aircraft. Give Dice some credit, they looked at the capabilities and "realistic" content of where these jets fit in amongst the militaries presented in the game. Just be thankfull that they didn't put in the Harrier over the F-35. Then you'd have to gripe about its slow speed as well as crappy handling vs the J-10.

As for Euroforces, Dice could have easily given us the French Rafale as well as the venerable Tornado. That would have been a sweet addition. It would also have been nice to see an Osprey thrown into the Armored Fury mix.

Just because a jet can't do a VTOL doesn't mean it's not capable of being a carrier aircraft... It has to be STOL rated...

2007-05-11 15:43:15

#36

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6591|New Haven, CT

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
nukchebi0 wrote:
I don't see anyone mentioning that the F-35 is stealth. You wouldn't need a Raptor to have an undetectable plane. A realistic F-35 would be, too.
It doesn't matter, there is no radar to detect it. There isn't some radar screen you see it on, you see it flying over your head. For all we know it could be realistically stealthed in game - we don't have a radar to test it with (except possibly the UAV).

I know. I was just letting them know based on their other ideas.

2007-05-11 15:53:36

#37

RoosterCantrell: Goodbye :); +399|6747|Somewhere else

Well, remember that the map "wake Island" has 2007 on it. BF2's storyline WAS a set a few years ahead when it was released. I bet they though the F35 would be standard by the rime the game's storyline came into being the present rather than the future.

I highly doubt DICE made any decisions based upon any Aircraft's Real LIfe abilities. Especially since the game is no where near accurate, and I guarantee DICE had no intention of real life accuracy with the jets, the game would be soooo inbalanced then.

IMO, the F35 was "cool" looking to them, and its would be even cooler if players could fly the new RL jet. marketing, plain and smiple.

2007-05-11 17:05:47

#38

Hunter/Jumper: Member; +117|6621

mint-sauce-41 wrote:
umm no. No matter how good the plane is, a good J-10 pilot will down you in seconds.

snicker . . .

2007-05-11 20:18:13

#39

Blehm98: conservative hatemonger; +150|6730|meh-land

In real life dogfights take place at 10 miles plus for the most part, with missiles that can shoot 90+ miles... making a single turn might take miles to complete in real life as well

bf2 dogfighting is not realistic at all

2007-05-12 07:53:19

#40

[Hive]-Twist: Member; +13|6632

We should have the canadian forces. With c9s. And our jets would be the Avro Arrows. (If you guys hadn't destroyed it >=O )

2007-05-12 11:27:30

#41

ts-pulsar: Member; +54|6770

[Hive]-Twist wrote:
We should have the canadian forces. With c9s. And our jets would be the Avro Arrows. (If you guys hadn't destroyed it >=O )

Just go grab a MiG-31 it's the same thing as the arrow

The soviets are stealing all your planes.

2007-05-12 12:48:01

#42

im_in_heaven: Member; +27|6855

im just pissed that j-10s dont have unlimited cloaking devices. This would bring them back up to par

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