Well, if the US does attack Iran, and gets nuked, I think there would be nothing of Venezuela anyway by the time that happens. But really, I would highly doubt this.
noice 
Hugo Chavez is a thief, screw Iran I say we attack Venezuela. He steals our oil facility's there & is now making threats against us? I think it's time Hugo got a bitch slap.
IF this did happen, not only would you have to deal with people like park who will fight, but you will also have to deal with the major allies of America.
GL Terrorism
GL Terrorism
~ Do you not know that in the service … one must always choose the lesser of two weevils?
Well, if that happens on US soil, I'm sure the UK will not have much of a chance, seeing show all the roaches would come out into the open and start attacking anyone they feel has a better way of life then they do.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
OK, now I'm starting to hope the OP is true...
maybe it'll spark the US into orgy of self-destruction...
lol. worldnetdaily. lol
You guys are such a bunch of scared little ninnies.
Love the Venezuela bullshit too.
You guys are such a bunch of scared little ninnies.
Love the Venezuela bullshit too.
Back in your box. When are you guys gonna learn to keep within your own borders? 'Our oil facility's' - lol.TrollmeaT wrote:
Hugo Chavez is a thief, screw Iran I say we attack Venezuela. He steals our oil facility's there & is now making threats against us? I think it's time Hugo got a bitch slap.
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Ok Slapnutts I will bite. Where are you getting your information about us killing civilians 98% of time?Hurricane wrote:
Our soldiers, who obviously are the ones making the decisions to go to war, inadvertently (98% of the time) kill civilians. Since this has happened a lot since OIF started, these killings have been serial. Duh!Parker wrote:
ill bite.....the mother would be just as much of a sociopath for not loving her serial killer son.
though i fail to see where this comparison is going.
This is my second time here. I have yet to see an unarmed civilian get killed. I have seen weapons removed from wounded or dieing AIF, and I have seen them promptly shot for the effort of taking a weapon. If 98% of the time the US shot innocent people I dont think there would be very many people living in Iraq. I think afgter 5 years there would be no living people left alive. And your Beloved UK troops, don't exactly have a clean track record of NOT killing Innocents either. As for the fact that Joe snuffy with a rifle, are making the decisions to go to war, you need to talk to some us troops. Yes we get new people into the military daily, some want to fight and do they're part, Others just need a job, and a lifestyle that will improve where they came from, and give them a chance to rebuild they're life because of poor choices. Military Service pretty much cleans your slate, and gives you a second chance to go to college, and get a good job coming out. Not all people are born with a silver spoon in they're mouth, and a pampered childhood. Some people use the military as a stepping stone.
This is paranoia if i ever saw it
Also Hugo must chuckle pretty good stirring up shit inside the US, have any of you asked yourself why so many countries unite in a front against the US government ?
Think the world police attitude is starting to backfire.
Also Hugo must chuckle pretty good stirring up shit inside the US, have any of you asked yourself why so many countries unite in a front against the US government ?
Think the world police attitude is starting to backfire.
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
I'd kinda like to see the Dragon Scenario from "Reign of Fire" come into play, then everybody would be fucked.
QFT.CameronPoe wrote:
lol. worldnetdaily. lol
You guys are such a bunch of scared little ninnies.
Love the Venezuela bullshit too.
*raises hand* I'll take the scoped G3.Parker wrote:
it would be a fucking turkey shoot.
i for one have enough ammo for at least a hundred of them......and if i go get the real arsenal, well shit, id be looking for people to arm.
I caveated the source as being "silly". It's not about that article per say, just the scenario.CameronPoe wrote:
lol. worldnetdaily. lol
You guys are such a bunch of scared little ninnies.
Love the Venezuela bullshit too.
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Who is scared?CameronPoe wrote:
lol. worldnetdaily. lol
You guys are such a bunch of scared little ninnies.
Love the Venezuela bullshit too.
it would starve to death after red china raped its ass hardScorpion0x17 wrote:
Yes. Whilst I like individual Americans, and wish them personally no harm, I dislike the US as a country and think the world would be a better place without it.
America would still be powerful even if its main cities were hit, in order to completely wipe the US of the map with nukes you'd probably put so much radioactive shit into the atomsphere that there'd be no point in going there and this would probably spread to other countries and continents eventually.
Still if they got invaded I'd be on my way to help kick ass, what are friends for anyway.
Still if they got invaded I'd be on my way to help kick ass, what are friends for anyway.
OK, in an attempt to not derail this thread any further I am going to answer all the points made in relation to my comments in this one post:
I am not obssessed with hating America. I'd love to see America mature into the kind of country it should be. It is the only superpower in the world. I would like to see it using that position to promote peace and wellbeing in the world, not war and death.
I am most certainly not jealous. The UK has one the strongest economies in the world. And we're a tiny island nation. We therefore have one of the best standards of living in the world, especially compared to the US. Neither country is perfect, but I would much rather live here than there.
Do you have any concept of what the US military would do to the US if it were to attack it?
Try this - imagine the effect that all the awesome firepower of the US military would have on say Paris, or London, or Tokyo, or anyother major city around the world. Now imagine that in New York. Or Washington. You DO NOT want that.
In short, you are wrong - I am probably at least as educated as you, I am not 13 and my knowledge extends way beyond that of middle school history.
Now, can we all just put our emotional patriotism to one side, pick up some objectivity and get the fuck back on topic?
(I wouldn't want OrangeHound to have to get his mop out again)
What? Even if they had defeated Russia, the german army was doomed to failure - they controlled like half of Europe - they were still starving their own population in order to build ever more tanks.nukchebi0 wrote:
They would have defeated Russia without the U.S. Then they wouldn't have needed to starve their people.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Wrong. The US made the war shorter, but the germans were never going to win. They were starving their population so as to build ever more tanks. They would have run out of people before they'd have defeated us.Villain{NY} wrote:
I know of one war that we didn't start but if it weren't for our involvement you'd be speaking German right now.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
You probably know the list of wars the US initiated better than I.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 0#p1368700
England=lose.
I know plenty about history. That's what makes me so depressed when I see the US repeating the errors we made in the past, rather than learning from them.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
If you really think that way, then you know very little about history. Either that, or you are so obsessed with disliking America, that you are not paying attention to any of the good things America has done for the world. And then there is the most likely possibility, and that is you are jealous.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
A good proportion of the Irish population don't like us. And they're right not to.usmarine2005 wrote:
lol. I can't even respond to that. Too busy laughing.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Well, I, personally didn't. But, yeah, I know.
Should a mother love her serial-killer son regardless of the evil in him?
Should the Irish like you? Since you forced so many into starvation which forced a lot of them to come to the US.
So, I'll ask again, should a mother love her serial-killer son regardless of the evil in him?
I am not obssessed with hating America. I'd love to see America mature into the kind of country it should be. It is the only superpower in the world. I would like to see it using that position to promote peace and wellbeing in the world, not war and death.
I am most certainly not jealous. The UK has one the strongest economies in the world. And we're a tiny island nation. We therefore have one of the best standards of living in the world, especially compared to the US. Neither country is perfect, but I would much rather live here than there.
I am a fool for agreeing with the US military itself?devildogfo wrote:
you are a foolScorpion0x17 wrote:
You do NOT want that happening.Hurricane wrote:
I'm sure some silly gang can put up a fight against the US military.
"Hey homes, let's kill these fools!"
"Word!"
*Humvee and Apache appear*
"Aw shit son!"And that is part of the reason why.keghog wrote:
I would love for them to try to start shit. Even without the police, the US has too many armed citizens for them to stand a chance. My small town alone could create a small army.
The other part is: look what the US military did to Iraq.
Do you have any concept of what the US military would do to the US if it were to attack it?
Try this - imagine the effect that all the awesome firepower of the US military would have on say Paris, or London, or Tokyo, or anyother major city around the world. Now imagine that in New York. Or Washington. You DO NOT want that.
I have not forgotten what we, the UK, has done in the past at all. But we, the UK, have, to some extent, learnt from our mistakes.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
And yet you somehow, you manage to forget the many more wars that the UK started?Scorpion0x17 wrote:
You probably know the list of wars the US initiated better than I.usmarine2005 wrote:
Please explain how we are "serial killers?"
FYI, I'm 33, and though, I admit, history is not most strongest area of knowledge, I do have a Bachelors Degree in Software Engineering and am widely read.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Ok, that proves it. You are probably a <13 year old kid with little knowledge of history beyond your middle school history class.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
It helped to make the war shorter. The outcome would have been the same, in the end, without US support - it just would have taken longer and would have cost far more lives.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
And no, the £119 billion ($235,717,072,273.27) loan from the US in money and supplies didn't help at all..
In short, you are wrong - I am probably at least as educated as you, I am not 13 and my knowledge extends way beyond that of middle school history.
I quite agree.CannonFodder11b wrote:
Well, if that happens on US soil, I'm sure the UK will not have much of a chance, seeing show all the roaches would come out into the open and start attacking anyone they feel has a better way of life then they do.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
OK, now I'm starting to hope the OP is true...
maybe it'll spark the US into orgy of self-destruction...
Now, can we all just put our emotional patriotism to one side, pick up some objectivity and get the fuck back on topic?
(I wouldn't want OrangeHound to have to get his mop out again)
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Eh chief, I was poking fun about the whole "serial killer" thing. In case you didn't notice, I'm not from the UK =p thanks for fighting the good fight, hope you and your fellow soldiers come back fine.CannonFodder11b wrote:
Ok Slapnutts I will bite. Where are you getting your information about us killing civilians 98% of time?Hurricane wrote:
Our soldiers, who obviously are the ones making the decisions to go to war, inadvertently (98% of the time) kill civilians. Since this has happened a lot since OIF started, these killings have been serial. Duh!Parker wrote:
ill bite.....the mother would be just as much of a sociopath for not loving her serial killer son.
though i fail to see where this comparison is going.
This is my second time here. I have yet to see an unarmed civilian get killed. I have seen weapons removed from wounded or dieing AIF, and I have seen them promptly shot for the effort of taking a weapon. If 98% of the time the US shot innocent people I dont think there would be very many people living in Iraq. I think afgter 5 years there would be no living people left alive. And your Beloved UK troops, don't exactly have a clean track record of NOT killing Innocents either. As for the fact that Joe snuffy with a rifle, are making the decisions to go to war, you need to talk to some us troops. Yes we get new people into the military daily, some want to fight and do they're part, Others just need a job, and a lifestyle that will improve where they came from, and give them a chance to rebuild they're life because of poor choices. Military Service pretty much cleans your slate, and gives you a second chance to go to college, and get a good job coming out. Not all people are born with a silver spoon in they're mouth, and a pampered childhood. Some people use the military as a stepping stone.
No you're wrong. By the Battle of Britian Germany had aquired a huge amount of territory and the resources that go along with it. Their army and air force were large, well trained, and well equipped. Their people weren't starving, and their troop levels were massive. If it weren't for the United States sending a constant convoy of Liberty ships to Great Britian it would have been you that ran out supplies to equip your troops to fight.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
Wrong. The US made the war shorter, but the germans were never going to win. They were starving their population so as to build ever more tanks. They would have run out of people before they'd have defeated us.Villain{NY} wrote:
I know of one war that we didn't start but if it weren't for our involvement you'd be speaking German right now.Scorpion0x17 wrote:
You probably know the list of wars the US initiated better than I.
I didn't bother to read through the 4 posts of what is probably drivel, but all I have to say is that while we would see a terrible rise in murders and other various crimes (if this is real), we'd also see a lot of vigilantes shooting up both the terrorists and, unfortunately, many people suspected of being associated with them.
If it happens - I have a hunting knife and a shotgun in a locked case waiting for me. I'll fight to the death before death comes to me first.
Cons ? You need to do a lot more research on your history.CameronPoe wrote:
lol. Brains over brawn moron. You're probably the macho kind of idiot who puts up his dukes while I draw a knife all the while a bunch of mates are fucking up your car.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
"Ninnies" lol Ever see poe's photo ? Roflmaousmarine2005 wrote:
Who is scared?
You're the kind of idiot who thinks you can invade Iraq successfully and beat a guerrilla insurgency 10,000 miles from home (even after having your ass handed to you in Nam - you cons you never learn your lesson!). roflmao.
You like the many on one scenario ! that figures well.
Draw a knife anytime you want. The Shotgun someone "Drew" on me is still in a closet at my mothers house.
Still talk is cheap.
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Anyway, had Britain lost to germany, the US would be one big atomic crater. I think we have a lot to thank the brits for.Deadmonkiefart wrote:
Mod: personal attack removedScorpion0x17 wrote:
It helped to make the war shorter. The outcome would have been the same, in the end, without US support - it just would have taken longer and would have cost far more lives.{M5}Sniper3 wrote:
And no, the £119 billion ($235,717,072,273.27) loan from the US in money and supplies didn't help at all..
The nuke weapon will be the end of humankind if it is unleashed ever again.
Invading a country with the size and population of the US is the hardest thing to do. Total annihilation seems the only viable option.
Now most countries ban nuclear weapons use and testing. The US is trying to enforce it.
Invading a country with the size and population of the US is the hardest thing to do. Total annihilation seems the only viable option.
How is that? The US was the first and only country to ever use nuclear weapons to end a war; specifically WW2. The US developed the plutonium bomb after it found out that Germany was trying to enrich Uranium 235. So Germany had no chance at all since they were stalled at creating a nuclear chain reaction. There would have been one more atomic crater which would be what now Germany is.jonsimon wrote:
Says the guy named deadmonkiefart. Anyway, had Britain lost to germany, the US would be one big atomic crater. I think we have a lot to thank the brits for.
Now most countries ban nuclear weapons use and testing. The US is trying to enforce it.
Guess I'd high tail it to Canada. LOL.
what if you cant find the key in time?Poseidon wrote:
If it happens - I have a hunting knife and a shotgun in a locked case waiting for me. I'll fight to the death before death comes to me first.